Kansas City Royals @ Seattle Mariners Aug 25-27

Chapow

Well-known member
Joined
Jan 11, 2010
Messages
5,310
Reaction score
1,190
Munoz closes it with ease, first place in the AL West!

He got it done, and that's awesome. But throwing fastballs down the middle of plate over and over is an extremely dangerous way to pitch. That was hella sketchy.
 

NoGain

Well-known member
Joined
Dec 28, 2022
Messages
2,143
Reaction score
2,208
We're insanely hot now. With our pitching, it's hard to see us ever falling off a cliff here in the stretch run. I mean, even when we were hitting for total shyt, we were just about a .500 team. Looks good.
 

IndyHawk

Well-known member
Joined
Dec 19, 2013
Messages
7,992
Reaction score
1,625
He got it done, and that's awesome. But throwing fastballs down the middle of plate over and over is an extremely dangerous way to pitch. That was hella sketchy.
Didn't see game but are you saying his stuff is just flat straight?
No good movement?
He has a slider and a sinker that obviously he needs to work on more.
 

Chapow

Well-known member
Joined
Jan 11, 2010
Messages
5,310
Reaction score
1,190
Didn't see game but are you saying his stuff is just flat straight?
No good movement?
He has a slider and a sinker that obviously he needs to work on more.

No. I'm saying many of his fastballs that he was throwing today were straight down the middle with basically no movement. Obviously not every single pitch, but quite a few. I'm guessing it's because he's been struggling with his slider, so he was leaning heavily on his fastball. I'm also guessing that he was probably missing his spot on those because I doubt he was trying to throw fastballs middle/middle.
 

Echawks

Active member
Joined
Apr 28, 2022
Messages
352
Reaction score
224
i dont know.. all i remember is him striking out the side
 

Chapow

Well-known member
Joined
Jan 11, 2010
Messages
5,310
Reaction score
1,190
i dont know.. all i remember is him striking out the side

Strike 3 on both of the first 2 hitters were 98mph fastballs straight down the middle of the plate. The batters just missed it.

BUT... He got it done, and that's really all that matters at the end of the day.
 

Shanegotyou11

Well-known member
Joined
Oct 9, 2017
Messages
5,353
Reaction score
377
They were sitting offspeed. They went fastballs. It worked. Its why slider ended it so well.
 

SoulfishHawk

Well-known member
Joined
Sep 6, 2012
Messages
29,673
Reaction score
10,080
Location
Sammamish, WA
Doesn't matter how it looks as long as you get the Dub. That being said, pulling Castillo was plain dumb. I had bad Servais nightmares for a little bit there.
Yes, he's doing a good job this year, but come on man. He was in a zone, sitting at 95 pitches, 1 hit scoreless thru 7. And you pull him? Weak
 

IndyHawk

Well-known member
Joined
Dec 19, 2013
Messages
7,992
Reaction score
1,625
No. I'm saying many of his fastballs that he was throwing today were straight down the middle with basically no movement. Obviously not every single pitch, but quite a few. I'm guessing it's because he's been struggling with his slider, so he was leaning heavily on his fastball. I'm also guessing that he was probably missing his spot on those because I doubt he was trying to throw fastballs middle/middle.
Saw an article in fanside?Where Munoz says he's having trouble dealing with the pitch clock
as it's playing with his routine where he's in his comfort zone.
I hadn't thought of that but some other pichers have said the same thing..
 

SoulfishHawk

Well-known member
Joined
Sep 6, 2012
Messages
29,673
Reaction score
10,080
Location
Sammamish, WA
I can see that. I wondered before the season how it would go. There are some pitchers that are human rain delay's out there. All the sudden, you gotta' hurry.
Jamie Moyer would have HATED the pitch clock. Omg, he was about as fast as a slug.
 

Sports Hernia

Well-known member
Joined
Apr 30, 2009
Messages
44,755
Reaction score
3,372
Location
The pit
Strike 3 on both of the first 2 hitters were 98mph fastballs straight down the middle of the plate. The batters just missed it.

BUT... He got it done, and that's really all that matters at the end of the day.
I’d rather see him throw his 98-102mph fastball vs his 89mph hung slider that gets hit hard most of the time. Most cases I hate it when pitchers are over reliant on the fastball, but when a guy throws 98-102, that’s the exception to my rule.

If he was throwing 92-93 mph with his fastball, I’d 100% agree with your POV.
 

SmokinHawk

Well-known member
Joined
Apr 30, 2009
Messages
9,106
Reaction score
1,080
Location
Bellingham
Doesn't matter how it looks as long as you get the Dub. That being said, pulling Castillo was plain dumb. I had bad Servais nightmares for a little bit there.
Yes, he's doing a good job this year, but come on man. He was in a zone, sitting at 95 pitches, 1 hit scoreless thru 7. And you pull him? Weak
Gotta keep that arm fresh for the postseason. There's wisdom in playing the hot hand but when your starter gets you through 7 amazing innings and you're up big on a scoreless opponent, late in a season that is sure to include a deep run at the championship, it's not rightly stupid to pull your ace early to keep him fresh.
 

SoulfishHawk

Well-known member
Joined
Sep 6, 2012
Messages
29,673
Reaction score
10,080
Location
Sammamish, WA
All in how you look at it. Another batter or two in the 8th wouldn't have made a difference overall. Servais being extra careful when his guy was on his A game almost cost them the game. Just my opinion it was dumb. Just because it worked out, doesn't mean it's not justified to question his decision making as a Manager in that situation.
 
Top