Bears, commanders,Pats,Giants,Titans,Falcons,Vikings, Broncos, Raiders could all be looking to draft a QB.We really need to address qb first as its very possible Penix, Nix and McCarthy go by the first or early second. Both Bo and Mike are players that we have waited for A year for.
This years class I see as better than 2025, in which Shedeur Sanders is being forecasted as a top prospect; if true, that’d make the class of 2025 look Like 2022 whereas your top picks were Kenny Pickett and Desmond Ridder.
This is the way to go.But if you trade out of #16 you get a lower #1, a #2 and possibly a Day 3 pick. I would like that.
And with all that, you’re probably drafting even lower than #16 in 2025 and still needing a successor to Geno. This is the draft to address the problem.This is the way to go.
There is plenty of OL/DL to be had this coming Draft.
I can understand your concern but the trenches need attention now, not QBAnd with all that, you’re probably drafting even lower than #16 in 2025 and still needing a successor to Geno. This is the draft to address the problem.
But then the Bears won't be able to get Odunze.Bears, commanders,Pats,Giants,Titans,Falcons,Vikings, Broncos, Raiders could all be looking to draft a QB.
What makes you think you can sit at #16 and get the guy you want? Trade for #9 with the Bears.
Both are critical for the direction of the franchise.I can understand your concern but the trenches need attention now, not QB
I do agree although the quantity and quality of lineman this draft is large. Hawks can get by using Geno right now.Both are critical for the direction of the franchise.
No deal if Odunze is there at #9. No guarantee of anything, but you’ve got a hell of a lot better chance at QB with this trade.But then the Bears won't be able to get Odunze.
Additionally, I'm not sure getting #9 gets us a guy we want to give up what we'd have to give up to get. Top 3 are probably still gone by #9.
For QBs this year, it seems like there is a clear #1, a pretty distinct top 3, and then a bunch of guys various college football fandoms are trying to will into that upper class of QB but are probably all projects of varying degrees.
If not one of McCarthy, Nix, or Penix are available at #16, I would be somewhat surprised. I would be ok with taking one of those guys that early (even though lots of people seem to think that's nuts) because I'll assume the Front Office is fairly confident what their plan is for those dudes but if we're actively trading away players (like DK) or giving up picks we need for the O-Line or LB corps for guys who are the #4-6 at their respective positions?
Not sure that makes sense for guys who are rated in the 20s, 30s, and worse on most big boards.
It's only worth it if Daniels or Maye falls to 9. Otherwise, there's no point in reaching for a QB.No deal if Odunze is there at #9. No guarantee of anything, but you’ve got a hell of a lot better chance at QB with this trade.
Yeah, and I just can't imagine a world where Maye and Daniels make it past Washington, New England, Atlanta, and New York. It just makes no sense to trade up for who's going to be left over at #9.It's only worth it if Daniels or Maye falls to 9. Otherwise, there's no point in reaching for a QB.
You can trade back from 16 & grab either Nix or Penix.
Oh really? Nix looked good at combine, and if he’s your guy, it’s a gamble waiting at #16. For various reasons, Penix may drop to second round, but are you rolling with him as your next QB?It's only worth it if Daniels or Maye falls to 9. Otherwise, there's no point in reaching for a QB.
You can trade back from 16 & grab either Nix or Penix.
My guy, no one is giving up that kind of capital to move up & take Bo or Penix. Both will still be available at Pick 16.Oh really? Nix looked good at combine, and if he’s your guy, it’s a gamble waiting at #16. For various reasons, Penix may drop to second round, but are you rolling with him as your next QB?
Looking ahead to 2025, the Hawks will probably be drafting even lower than #16, so you’ll be REALLY “reaching” or else sell the farm to move up to top-5. Is that the plan if trading down from #16 doesn’t work?
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You might be right about Penix. Not so sure about Nix. But if you are wrong, how do you propose to get a QB in 2025?My guy, no one is giving up that kind of capital to move up & take Bo or Penix. Both will still be available at Pick 16.
Yeah, but if he's bad, people might care that you traded away DK Metcalf and your next two first round picks for a bust. (People like Jody Allen, perhaps?)You might be right about Penix. Not so sure about Nix. But if you are wrong, how do you propose to get a QB in 2025?
If we land a legit franchise QB, nobody will care where he was drafted.
Ah. Right. He was multi-positional coming out but settled at center in rookie year. Guess that drives his absence on most of the Center draft history lists.
Guess that makes sense, but for the general point to those who endorse going IOL at 16 (not you, JGreen).... was Pouncey really that good of a pick at 15? He was sandwiched between two significantly more valuable players at more valuable positions on the field in Quinn and Kerrigan.
I mean, he's about as good as you can hope for when drafting an IOL, and it was STILL a suboptimal choice.
The upside is so, so, so limited with an IOL in that range.