Clint Hurtt's Biggest Crime: 2023 at Dallas

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If there's one specific instance I can point to for which Clint Hurtt should be tarred and feathered, it is the game against Dallas last year.

Geno Smith had an elite performance. Zach Charbonnet broke out (low average, but was consistent and moved the pile). Geno faced a staggering pressure rate of 54% on his dropbacks. Despite this, Geno did not take a single sack and the Seahawks offense did not have a single drive ending in a punt. They were 4 out of 5 in the red zone and passed for 16 first downs (meaning 16 of Geno's 23 completions moved the chains).

They still lost 41-35.

Clint, I hope you stub your toe most mornings for the rest of your coaching career for that one, bud. All we needed on defense was to slow them a little bit. Offense had that game won for us on the road against one of the best teams in the NFL.

And don't tell me it was Pete. It was, of course, Pete's responsibility to can Hurtt's ass after 2022 - but Hurtt took a defense that constantly defended the run pretty well with a tried-and-tried 4-3 under with 3-4 principles and bear fronts mixed in and turned it into a Fangio Frankenstein 4-2 sad nickel sieve. Pete's pre-2022 defense would've had us cruising in that game.

So glad I don't have to worry about that dude any more. Sad, because he's a pretty good DL coach. But god damn, I've never seen a guy run head first into the Peter Principle with as much force as Hurtt did.
 

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If there's one specific instance I can point to for which Clint Hurtt should be tarred and feathered, it is the game against Dallas last year.

Geno Smith had an elite performance. Zach Charbonnet broke out (low average, but was consistent and moved the pile). Geno faced a staggering pressure rate of 54% on his dropbacks. Despite this, Geno did not take a single sack and the Seahawks offense did not have a single drive ending in a punt. They were 4 out of 5 in the red zone and passed for 16 first downs (meaning 16 of Geno's 23 completions moved the chains).

They still lost 41-35.

Clint, I hope you stub your toe most mornings for the rest of your coaching career for that one, bud. All we needed on defense was to slow them a little bit. Offense had that game won for us on the road against one of the best teams in the NFL.

And don't tell me it was Pete. It was, of course, Pete's responsibility to can Hurtt's ass after 2022 - but Hurtt took a defense that constantly defended the run pretty well with a tried-and-tried 4-3 under with 3-4 principles and bear fronts mixed in and turned it into a Fangio Frankenstein 4-2 sad nickel sieve. Pete's pre-2022 defense would've had us cruising in that game.

So glad I don't have to worry about that dude any more. Sad, because he's a pretty good DL coach. But god damn, I've never seen a guy run head first into the Peter Principle with as much force as Hurtt did.
Yeah…. I mean that game was a travesty on another certain front with the zebras too… but the defense definitely did not do its job
 

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If there's one specific instance I can point to for which Clint Hurtt should be tarred and feathered, it is the game against Dallas last year.

Geno Smith had an elite performance. Zach Charbonnet broke out (low average, but was consistent and moved the pile). Geno faced a staggering pressure rate of 54% on his dropbacks. Despite this, Geno did not take a single sack and the Seahawks offense did not have a single drive ending in a punt. They were 4 out of 5 in the red zone and passed for 16 first downs (meaning 16 of Geno's 23 completions moved the chains).

They still lost 41-35.

Clint, I hope you stub your toe most mornings for the rest of your coaching career for that one, bud. All we needed on defense was to slow them a little bit. Offense had that game won for us on the road against one of the best teams in the NFL.

And don't tell me it was Pete. It was, of course, Pete's responsibility to can Hurtt's ass after 2022 - but Hurtt took a defense that constantly defended the run pretty well with a tried-and-tried 4-3 under with 3-4 principles and bear fronts mixed in and turned it into a Fangio Frankenstein 4-2 sad nickel sieve. Pete's pre-2022 defense would've had us cruising in that game.

So glad I don't have to worry about that dude any more. Sad, because he's a pretty good DL coach. But god damn, I've never seen a guy run head first into the Peter Principle with as much force as Hurtt did.

I'm not sure the Dallas game was even the best example. Shootouts happen sometimes where neither team can stop each other. I think the Steelers game was more of a travesity. Giving up 468 yards to a Mason Rudolph led team is a crime. You knew they were going to run and they still couldn't stop them. Harris had 122 and Warren had 75 on the ground with 3 TD's between the two of them. *sigh*
 
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I'm not sure the Dallas game was even the best example. Shootouts happen sometimes where neither team can stop each other. I think the Steelers game was more of a travesity. Giving up 468 yards to a Mason Rudolph led team is a crime. You knew they were going to run and they still couldn't stop them. Harris had 122 and Warren had 75 on the ground with 3 TD's between the two of them. *sigh*
I had almost completely removed that game from of my memory, similar to the 2022 contest against the Raiders (which should've lost Hurtt his job that offseason, as well.)

If there's one thing I can really shake my head at Pete Carroll about - it's standing by this bozo. He ditched his own defensive scheme to let this guy run the show... at the exact moment that Fangio hybrid stopped working and Pete Carroll's own defensive tree saw a resurgence of success around the league. Cover-3 still the primary coverage of the league, 49ers running his classics to great effect.. shame.

It's the one time Pete decided not to bet on himself and it probably was the biggest reason he got fired. It's ironic.

Saleh and Demeco Ryans got head coaching jobs running Carroll stuff. Should've just stuck with it.
 

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Yeah, I was at that game and while Hurtt (and honorable mention Jamal Adams) deserves his fair share of the blame, the referees/NFL handed that win to the Cowboys. The phantom PI to give them a fresh set of downs and the go ahead score in the 4th quarter was a travisty. I told a Dallas fan next to me the game was over as soon as that flag came out, just been down this road too many times with the NFL. This, and many other similar examples, is why I primarily watch college football anymore. Go Cougs.
 

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If there's one specific instance I can point to for which Clint Hurtt should be tarred and feathered, it is the game against Dallas last year.

Geno Smith had an elite performance. Zach Charbonnet broke out (low average, but was consistent and moved the pile). Geno faced a staggering pressure rate of 54% on his dropbacks. Despite this, Geno did not take a single sack and the Seahawks offense did not have a single drive ending in a punt. They were 4 out of 5 in the red zone and passed for 16 first downs (meaning 16 of Geno's 23 completions moved the chains).

They still lost 41-35.

Clint, I hope you stub your toe most mornings for the rest of your coaching career for that one, bud. All we needed on defense was to slow them a little bit. Offense had that game won for us on the road against one of the best teams in the NFL.

And don't tell me it was Pete. It was, of course, Pete's responsibility to can Hurtt's ass after 2022 - but Hurtt took a defense that constantly defended the run pretty well with a tried-and-tried 4-3 under with 3-4 principles and bear fronts mixed in and turned it into a Fangio Frankenstein 4-2 sad nickel sieve. Pete's pre-2022 defense would've had us cruising in that game.

So glad I don't have to worry about that dude any more. Sad, because he's a pretty good DL coach. But god damn, I've never seen a guy run head first into the Peter Principle with as much force as Hurtt did.
It was Pete.


*tee-hee*
 

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We should have won that Dallas game no doubt, but nothing spiked my blood pressure more than that Pittsburgh game last season. Such a garbage game on so many levels with so much on the line.
 

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Hurtt and the defense was especially atrocious but when they did hold teams down, the offense was nowhere to be found. The offense also cost the Seahawks a few games last season. They could only muster up 16 points against the Rams when the defense held the Rams to 17 points. Then there was the offensive debacle against the Bengals only mustering 13 points when the defense held the Bengals to 17. You hold a team to 17 points, you should be able to win those games with the weapons the Seahawks had on offense.
 

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We should have won that Dallas game no doubt, but nothing spiked my blood pressure more than that Pittsburgh game last season. Such a garbage game on so many levels with so much on the line

Yes and they needed to win that game too for a playoff spot. 3rd string QB (that threw for almost 300 yrds) and still couldn't get it done.
 

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What was perplexing and not just the Dallas game, we play a team and the rating for their offense or defensive liability would be very bad, we rarely took advantage of out strengths against them, worst pass defense in the league, we will fool them and run the ball as much as possible, bad run defense lets pass all day., good running offense with little passing attack lets play deep off all game. Stupid stuff like that all day happening, let alone having a backup QB come in and not apply pressure or try to make his life difficult.
 

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We should have won that Dallas game no doubt, but nothing spiked my blood pressure more than that Pittsburgh game last season. Such a garbage game on so many levels with so much on the line.
That game was the real last straw, imo. We sure laid some eggs last season, starting in Week 1 ffs, but the Pittsburgh game was it. Diggs, Woolen and the rest of the secondary literally stood around and watched them gash us for gobs of yards made me want to pull my hair out. Everyone should have been fired the following Monday, and I mean everyone.
 

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What was perplexing and not just the Dallas game, we play a team and the rating for their offense or defensive liability would be very bad, we rarely took advantage of out strengths against them, worst pass defense in the league, we will fool them and run the ball as much as possible, bad run defense lets pass all day., good running offense with little passing attack lets play deep off all game. Stupid stuff like that all day happening, let alone having a backup QB come in and not apply pressure or try to make his life difficult.
This x1000. I always viewed it as Pete being old, stubborn and stuck in his ways of "We're gonna win playing OUR game! No matter what.". Which, like, ok. But a strong part of "OUR GAME" should be spending time in practice the week leading up to the game analyzing and dissecting our opponent's glaring holes, and ramming our strongest counter deep in that bitch! It's the future, shit! All this instant info and technology at our fingertips and Pete wants to act like we're still out here rewinding VHS tapes 🙄 I PRAY MM and company go far away from that foolishness.
 

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We should have won that Dallas game no doubt, but nothing spiked my blood pressure more than that Pittsburgh game last season. Such a garbage game on so many levels with so much on the line.
All the examples listed above are viable reasons . The Pittsburgh game at the end of the season was a carefully executed kick to the testes. Everything on the line, at home , against a struggling offense with a backup QB .

And that's the defense Clint Hurtt
Gives the fans.
 

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All the examples listed above are viable reasons . The Pittsburgh game at the end of the season was a carefully executed kick to the testes. Everything on the line, at home , against a struggling offense with a backup QB .

And that's the defense Clint Hurtt
Gives the fans.

All go as far as to suggest that it appeared some of the players flat out quit on the coaches.

Yeah, I said it.
 

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