How bad was that Milroe option play

[SoulfishHawk]

Remember the old saying? Bevel is the Devil?

 

[SocialParasite]

Remember the old saying? Bevel is the Devil?

Barrell Devil?

 

[nanomoz]

It was the sort of play you resort to when your offense is shit and you can't move the ball. Or when your starting QB sucks.

What I'm saying is: it was really, really bad and stupid.

 

[Sperrydogg]

Darrell Bevellish

That little bevil

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Foosball is for the Devil

 

[FreshBoxLive]

Something about it seemed fake. It's a play he ran many times in college, he had 1 play to practice all week, he was drafted for plays like this and that's what happens?

It's like a RB getting the ball and running backwards, it just seemed off.

He has average foot speed. Not fast at all.

 

[FreshBoxLive]

The hyperbole in this thread is wild. Milroe a total failure after a grand total of 3 plays? Not excited about Kubiak, despite having the best passing offense in the NFL (by DVOA) and second best overall passing offense? Kubiak is doing a stellar job of scheming to support his NFL average O-line, and he is putting Darnold in a position to be in the argument for best NFL QB of 2025, so far. Darnold is executing, and keeping himself in the position that Kubiak is setting up for him.

Some of us watched him in college and preseason.

 

[Chapow]

My biggest issue with this play call is that I just simply don't like taking the ball out of Darnolds hands to put the ball into the hands of a late 3rd round rookie project QB that doesn't look like he's ready to be put into these types of positions.

Darnold is playing really well and it sure doesn't look like our offense needs, or even benefits from these types of shenanigans.

It also feels a little forced to me. Like they feel like they have to find a way for Milroe to contribute to justify having him taking up an active roster spot on game day.

 

[glenwo2]

Milroe is barely faster than Darnold?

Dude ran a 4.40. Watch his college highlights, he's VERY fast.
Darnold ran a 4.85

That's still pretty fast for a QB.


EDIT : Okay I did a search using Google AI and I'm wrong. It's not pretty fast. LOL

No, Sam Darnold's 4.85-second 40-yard dash was not fast for a quarterback. While not exceptionally slow for the position, it was around average for QBs, as evidenced by his 38th percentile ranking in the 40-yard dash at the 2018 NFL Combine. His quickness is better reflected in his faster three-cone drill time of 6.96 seconds, which showed good agility and explosion, according to Dynasty League Football.

I'll be in the car.

 

[FreshBoxLive]

Can't we develop someone else lol. Like a non wildcat quarterback?

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Yep. I'm plenty sold on Darnold. But there's no way in hell he is close to Milroe speed. And he doesn't need to be.
Also, there will probably be a team that tries to trade for him at some point. Just sayin.

 

[glenwo2]

Yep. I'm plenty sold on Darnold. But there's no way in hell he is close to Milroe speed. And he doesn't need to be.
Also, there will probably be a team that tries to trade for him at some point. Just sayin.

Well I think you'll more than likely disagree with me on this take but :

"Just because you run fast, doesn't make you a good QB"

Am I wrong in thinking this?

 

[hangumhi]

I had no real issue with the call itself. It’s not what I would have done, but whatever. I was upset to see them bring in Milroe though. Darnold could have run the same play with a higher likelihood of success. There’s a reason the number one gets most of the practice snaps and we saw that on Sunday.

There's a reason you don't see that true option called in the NFL...it doesn't work! You barely see it in college anymore. Too risky for very little reward potential. Just an absolutely horrific play call...especially considering the situation.

 

[Frank12]

Horrible call.... They put a young development QB in a hard spot in a big game and it backfired... Shame on Klint & Mike for even thinking this our offense was moving just fine...

 

[kidhawk]

There's a reason you don't see that true option called in the NFL...it doesn't work! You barely see it in college anymore. Too risky for very little reward potential. Just an absolutely horrific play call...especially considering the situation.

I’m ok with doing occasional plays that rarely work as they can help keep defenses honest, but expecting to pull it off with your 3rd string qb is crazy.

 

[oldhawkfan]

Foosball is for the Devil

 

[Kamcussionator]

You know this for a fact? Have you looked at the playbook and know for a fact where every player should be at any given point during a play? If you do, I’d love access to that information.

I haven't watched every football game ever, but that's the way everyone else does it. Besides, the back has to trail the QB. If he gets even or in front of the QB then the pitch becomes a forward pass and the lead blocking linemen are illegally downfield.

 

[Sperrydogg]

I haven't watched every football game ever, but that's the way everyone else does it. Besides, the back has to trail the QB. If he gets even or in front of the QB then the pitch becomes a forward pass and the lead blocking linemen are illegally downfield.

I think the fact that they put milroe in for that play made the defense key in on him. I think he could be used but it needs to be more decisive. Qb dive or draw, or even a PA bomb but it needs to be threatening. That play looked doomed from the start and then it only got worse. And have they put him in the game not at QB yet. Even as a decoy, wr sweep, something that lets Sam keep the ball in his hand, but then we are getting back into gadget junk

 

[glenwo2]

They're really hell-bent on this.

 

[Y.A. Tittle]

I mean on every level of a football play that was terrible. Not just Milroe. The call in that moment was absurd. Did you put Milroe out there cause you thought he was gonna make a play? Or maybe cause he needed a little game time for his development? Right then? While Darnold was just starting to dice bucs? I mean poor timing. And obviously the blocking, execution, decision making everything about the play was wrong.
That loss of possession directly cost points and led to the Bucs scoring, swinging the momentum of the game just when we were starting to roll.
Terrible decision

Zero chance of Milroe making it … JS forgot that QB’s need to know how to throw. A 3rd round pick down the toilet.