Are the Seahawks being targeted for player "issues"?

[RiverDog]

when Aldon Smith was busted for DUI at 7 o'clock in the morning they also found marijuana and a prescription drug in his car that was not his. shouldn't the league test immediately when they find prescription drugs that are not his? also if you stayed up until 7 o'clock in the morning partying and drinking to the point that you passed up behind the wheel and crashed your car what kind of prescription drugs would you be taking to be ready to go to practice in an hour two? aderall comes to mind.

Perhaps. But such a procedure would have to be negotiated with the union. The league is prohibited from testing players under any other circumstances except those noted in the CBA.

You have to keep in mind that the tests Browner and Thurmond failed were done by the league under the provisions granted to them by the CBA. Aldon Smith's incident, and Beast's incident, and Dwayne Bowe's incident, was not. In those cases, the league has decided to let those cases work their way through the courts before they take action.

 

[chris98251]

Did Lynch serve his DUI suspension yet?

No he is still going through the legal process and has not been found guilty of anything, to bad I know you 49er fans are hoping for more material and that we don't run down your throats in a few weeks, sorry to dissapoint you.

 

[IronSaint]

It wasn't too long ago that Saints fans expressed the same type of conspiracy theory suspicions. They were scheduled to host the Super Bowl when the Bounty Gate scandal broke, and they swore that Goodell didn't want to see a host city with a team in the SB.

Until they come up with some sort of evidence other than a circumstantial coincidence, I'm not joining the grassy knoll bunch.

A year and a half later, and we're still waiting for Goodell's "evidence". :lol:

Maybe he misplaced it... all 50,000 pages of it. :229031_shrug:

:0190l:

 

[mikeak]

It wasn't too long ago that Saints fans expressed the same type of conspiracy theory suspicions. They were scheduled to host the Super Bowl when the Bounty Gate scandal broke, and they swore that Goodell didn't want to see a host city with a team in the SB.

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Yeah but they cut the power as a big finger to the league. Seahawks don't have that option

 

[Sports Hernia]

You wouldn't think so but the league and Rog is still pissed that Sherm won his appeal last year. After XL*, I don't trust the league much anymore. Yep our guys got busted and they deserve their punishment for their stupidity.... But If Manning, Brady, Luck or some other NFL "golden boy" failed a series of drug tests under the same circumstances do you think it would see the light of day? I don't. Too much revenue at stake for the league.

It's the same reason MLB didn't have a superstar busted in HIS PRIME for PED's until Ryan Braun. They knew that most of the league was juicing and if congress wouldn't have forced their hand they couldn't have cared less.

 

[Carmon1274]

If Browner cant play the rest of the year because of MJ.... but Aldon smith can play out his year after possibly killing people on the road and being a blatant retard with his firearm antics... then what else is one suppose to think.

Aldon Smith went to rehab and Marshawn Lynch hasn't?

Rediculous.

 

[RichNhansom]

when Aldon Smith was busted for DUI at 7 o'clock in the morning they also found marijuana and a prescription drug in his car that was not his. shouldn't the league test immediately when they find prescription drugs that are not his? also if you stayed up until 7 o'clock in the morning partying and drinking to the point that you passed up behind the wheel and crashed your car what kind of prescription drugs would you be taking to be ready to go to practice in an hour two? aderall comes to mind.

Perhaps. But such a procedure would have to be negotiated with the union. The league is prohibited from testing players under any other circumstances except those noted in the CBA.

You have to keep in mind that the tests Browner and Thurmond failed were done by the league under the provisions granted to them by the CBA. Aldon Smith's incident, and Beast's incident, and Dwayne Bowe's incident, was not. In those cases, the league has decided to let those cases work their way through the courts before they take action.

OK but what was the prescription drug found in his car? Why has that information been held from the public? And why do I suspect that information will never come out?

The Debartelo's have a history and we continue to see ridiculous situations brushed under the rug with DA's offices getting arrest warrants revoked from higher ups to rape investigations getting dismissed. Even Aldon's gun charges didn't come for a year and well beyond what any normal situation would call for. Truth is they would have never come out if not for the law suit. You can make excuses for everything but eventually just like being late to work every day, they become identified as excuses. Grandma can only die so many times before you stop excepting that excuse, unless you want to ignore it.

Do you really think with all the arrests, should be arrest's and incidents surrounding the Niners they are innocent of PED's, weed or anything else? Get real. Common sense tells you were there is smoke there is fire and these guys make Cheech and Chong proud of the smoke rolling out of their car.

Are they targeting the Seahawks? Don't know but maybe the better question is are they turning a blind eye or worse to the profitable franchises around the league? Maybe if we were seeing fair treatment we wouldn't suspect favoritism or wonder if we are purposely being targeted.

 

[Pandion Haliaetus]

If they're not they should be with all the BS going on in this locker room. Very simple, stay clean and you have nothing to worry about. 7 cases in two years, i'd say that's a reason for the league to keep a closer eye on this team...

To be fair:

Barbe, supposedly got busted while part of the Dolphin but served his suspension as a Seahawk.

Moffitt, has a prescription for Adderall, but he didn't file a special exempt with league. However, his 4 game suspension was reduced to 1 game.

Then you have Browner, Guy, and Irvins suspensions... said to be just adderalll.

The only one I don't believe is Irvin's...which we all can agree was steroids or some other weight /mass gaining PED.

Of the 7 players (Browner twice) tagged with Drug issues, only Irvin and Sherman might be on the team next season. Sherman was never convicted.

Sounds like the team is doing something even if it looks like they have done nothing.

 

[Zorn76]

The bottom line is this: It's on Browner & Thurmond to abide by the rules. Period. End of story. The team, Pete, whatever, can only do so much. And in Browner's case, it's pretty much certain that his days in Seattle are over.

 

[TeamoftheCentury]

We are the poster team for drug violations. Our team breaks the rules more then any on drug related issues.

It's absolutely nothing to be proud of.

Perhaps this is exactly what the NFL machine wants you to think.

 

[TeamoftheCentury]

I just hope the rest of the league is being treated "equally"

Great clarification to state the intent of your OP.

 

[TeamoftheCentury]

The bottom line is this: It's on Browner & Thurmond to abide by the rules. Period. End of story. The team, Pete, whatever, can only do so much. And in Browner's case, it's pretty much certain that his days in Seattle are over.

Yup, even if there is a target on your back... it's on the players privileged to be playing in the league to be above reproach.

 

[RiverDog]

when Aldon Smith was busted for DUI at 7 o'clock in the morning they also found marijuana and a prescription drug in his car that was not his. shouldn't the league test immediately when they find prescription drugs that are not his? also if you stayed up until 7 o'clock in the morning partying and drinking to the point that you passed up behind the wheel and crashed your car what kind of prescription drugs would you be taking to be ready to go to practice in an hour two? aderall comes to mind.

Perhaps. But such a procedure would have to be negotiated with the union. The league is prohibited from testing players under any other circumstances except those noted in the CBA.

You have to keep in mind that the tests Browner and Thurmond failed were done by the league under the provisions granted to them by the CBA. Aldon Smith's incident, and Beast's incident, and Dwayne Bowe's incident, was not. In those cases, the league has decided to let those cases work their way through the courts before they take action.

OK but what was the prescription drug found in his car? Why has that information been held from the public? And why do I suspect that information will never come out?
The Debartelo's have a history and we continue to see ridiculous situations brushed under the rug with DA's offices getting arrest warrants revoked from higher ups to rape investigations getting dismissed. Even Aldon's gun charges didn't come for a year and well beyond what any normal situation would call for. Truth is they would have never come out if not for the law suit. You can make excuses for everything but eventually just like being late to work every day, they become identified as excuses. Grandma can only die so many times before you stop excepting that excuse, unless you want to ignore it.

Do you really think with all the arrests, should be arrest's and incidents surrounding the Niners they are innocent of PED's, weed or anything else? Get real. Common sense tells you were there is smoke there is fire and these guys make Cheech and Chong proud of the smoke rolling out of their car.
Are they targeting the Seahawks? Don't know but maybe the better question is are they turning a blind eye or worse to the profitable franchises around the league? Maybe if we were seeing fair treatment we wouldn't suspect favoritism or wonder if we are purposely being targeted.

I don't know what drug he had with him, and perhaps the Niners don't, either. If it wasn't disclosed to the public, then my guess is that it would be disclosed to Aldon Smith's employer, either.

We're missing the point by complaining about other situations around the league and trying to use them to rationalize our own problems. It's no different than what we tell our kids when they complain to us that "everybody else is doing it", which for me the answer was "I don't give a rip what others are doing, this is what you're going to do!"

As others have stated, it is incumbent on our players to obey the rules. If they don't, then we are at the mercy of the NFL Gods.

 

[MontanaHawk05]

Our players are 100% responsible for their actions, but I still find it hard to believe that the Seahawks are the only team whose players light up a lot.

 

[RiverDog]

Our players are 100% responsible for their actions, but I still find it hard to believe that the Seahawks are the only team whose players light up a lot.

Some questions should be asked of our coaching staff. Are we doing a good enough job of emphasizing the substance abuse policy to the players and encouraging our guys that if they are smoking, to get off it, or educating them as to the testing procedure? What's different about the way our coaching staff addresses individual behavior and how the other teams are addressing it?

If our players are getting caught more than others, then there has to be a reason, and it simply isn't good enough to try to rationalize it away by concocting some sort of conspiracy theory that the league is targeting us. As you said, it's hard to believe that our players are the only ones that light up, or at least came into the league with the habit of lighting up. At least some fraction of the blame has to go back to Coach Carroll and our staff.

 

[Polaris]

If our players are getting caught more than others, then there has to be a reason, and it simply isn't good enough to try to rationalize it away by concocting some sort of conspiracy theory that the league is targeting us. As you said, it's hard to believe that our players are the only ones that light up, or at least came into the league with the habit of lighting up. At least some fraction of the blame has to go back to Coach Carroll and our staff.

Well, given what happened to Sherman and Browner last year (and details that were NOT supposed to be released to the press) and given what's happened to WT3 and esp Browner (ESP Browner) this year, I think there is a stool pidgeon either within the Seahawks organization or one within the NFL itself that has an axe to grind with the Seahawks in particular. Silver should be forced to reveal who it is given the damage. Browner potentially has a huge demation of character lawsuit against the NFL coming.

 

[v1rotv2]

Can we please stop with the excuse or reasoning that these are just young players doing what young players do? There is no excuse for their actions. They know the rules and are just so self centered that nothing else matters until they get caught and even then it appears the lesson is not learned. How can you see what happens to other players when they're caught and not learn from that? That's because it just does not matter to you. "To hell with the team and fans I want what I want" seems to be the mantra of the day for these morons.

For the poster that said if this were to happen to Brady, Manning or Luck we would not hear a word, think about it. Wouldn't that be the biggest story of the year in the NFL? Reporters and the so called "sources" would be all over it. Bringing down a big name is big money. Our players are in trouble because they deserve to be.

Stop putting the blame on others. That maybe why these guys think they are above it all now.

Signed

Pissed as Hell

 

[Polaris]

I am not defending stupidity or Thurman's actions in particular. But I am detecting a pattern of reporting and how stories are being reported especially when it comes to Browner recently, that goes beyond 'holding players accountable' and seems to rise to the level of sliming the organization and what I at least perceived to be in an underhanded but organized way.

In the first place until the NFL reaches a final judgement, all drug cases (PED or substance abuse) are SUPPOSED to be confidential and each organization (and that includes coaches) are literally not allowed to talk about it. That gives the talking heads free reign to say what they like without response (and some like Silver HAVE). What's worse is that is causes a rush to judgement before all the facts are known. Browner in particular may have been particularly victimized (Browner may not have actually failed...may I say...until this one).

I happen to know (by looking it up) that other teams have had about the same number of total incidents (as the press have been counting them), but Seattle seems to have been targeted in particular. I smell a rat....and I say this without excusing the mistakes of any particular players (esp WT3 whose case does seem to be fairly open-and-shut).

 

[plyka]

I'm not being paranoid here. Seriously, it's quite coincidental that we are at the top, and suddenly we are being tagged with player misconduct.

WTF?!!

I don't think the NFL plays favorites, it is in their self interest not to. The media on the other hand is a different story. I find it quite odd that you have Belicheck who is one of the only coaches actually found by the NFL to have been cheating, he has a player who is involved in murder, guns and all around thuggary --and this is evidence of how good a coach he is. Yet Pete Caroll has a couple players smoking weed and Pete Caroll is now state enemy number 1. What sense does this make?

Let's face it, the media has its favorites, and they are not all east coast teams. They are Dallas, Washington, New England, Chicago, Green Bay, New Orleans, Pittsburg, Denver (due to Manning) and the 49ers. They spend about 95% of their time promoting these teams. The Seahawks are not one of these teams, and so they will get short shrift. Despite the fact that they are 10-1, they will get about 15 seconds of air time, unless the media has something bad to say, then they will get 5 minutes.

 

[plyka]

Dwyane Bowe was ARRESTED WITH WEED

how is he not suspended? It's madness.

Dwayne Bowe gets a DUI and is arrested WITH WEED, and the guys is not only not suspended but doesn't miss even 1 game. Browner tested positive for 1 time that we know of --since he has not been suspended for non-PED drugs before, yet automatically he is out 1 year? What sense does this make? None, Browner is getting the shaft right up his you know what.

That said, it's not a Seahawk's thing, is a NFL has a million idiotic rules and Browner fell into one of the traps which make zero sense.