keasley45
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There's no indication as of yet that the OC will be changed for 2025 but i thought it worthwhile to take a look at the reasons why our former OC might be a candidate for the position if John and Mike decide to go in a different direction. In my opinion, Schottenheimer and Peets are both representative of the type of OC J&M would like to see here.
1.Accountability to your boss.
In the case of Schneider, i dont think his seat is hot, but i do think he was entrusted to take the team beyond the mediocre mark Pete captained them to. In his first year, i think he managed to show that we are building to something better, but overall the season has to be one viewed as one where the team underachieved.
On defense, we gave games away early in the season due to personnel erros that were made and the process of team maturation but managed to show immense progress as the season progressed.
On offense, despite flashes of brilliance, the season was characterized too often by fundamental errors that were a result of having to rely on a coordinator with little experience. As the season went on, the offense regressed, despite the line blocking better. That makes 3 years now where the potential of the offense has been squandered by a coach who was incapable of scheming success from a side with ample talent.
John isnt going to have the patience to tolerate another year of giving away victories because the OC is learning the job.
Schottenheimer had a solid record here as coordinator and i'm pretty sure, from John's perspective, should have been given more credit for getting the most from a qb in Russ who he considered to have worn out his welcome by virtue of how challenged he was at executing a traditional offense.
Schotty knows the NFL and has shown to be a good compliment to a defensive minded HC.
2. Experience, Compatibility, style, versatility.
Mike has made it clear the type of team identity he wants forged on bith sides of the ball. Hard-nosed, aggressive, intimidating. During Schoty's tenure here, he proved capable of scheming ground games that consistently finished in the top 10. He could also put together a more than adequate passing attack as was witnessed during the LRC year and prior, even if the fruit of his plans werent always realized.
He is strict, has spent a career coaching, and since leaving here has no doubt only grown his understanding of the offensive game having now studied under Mcarthy for a few years.
I'd wager Mac would welcome with open arms an OC who knows defense as well as his own side of the ball, knows how to control the clock and pound the rock, but can implement a sophisticated passing attack when the need arises. Schotty has that experience in spades having spent a good but if his career working across from a defensive minded coach.
The fact that Schotty would likely be granted a good bit of autonomy would also probably appeal to Schotty. He has earned his stripes, has the know-how, and had more history with the organization than Mac - All things that would seem to make him a solid fit.
Experience is also key here. Mac cant afford to have to divert attention from his duties to help a young or inexperienced coordinator become a leader.
3. Continuity / not starting from scratch.
Although not retaining Grubb would to a degree represent a reset, given hiw different his system is from the traditional NFL offense, moving to Schotty woukd allow Geno, Tyler, and DK to settle back into a system they largely already have experience in. The terminology and teaching of whateber new wrinkles Schotty has incorporated would be much easier and faster given the familiarity between him and some of the team's key personnel. I dont think the familiarity piece can be overstated as i cant see John or Mike being OK with another year of collective 'on the job learning' they had to tolerate with Grubb. The 2025 team needs to hit the ground running.
Jake Peets is another guy who could tick the familiarity box and is someone Mac seems fond of. The challenge with Peetz is that he's never done the job. Hiring from the MCvay tree sounds great, but we already gave his predcessor there a go and he failed miserably. Maybe Jake has shown something in his time here to instill faith in Mac and John that he wont be Waldron 2.0. My reservation is that, like Waldron and Grubb, he is a passing game specialist. That in and of itself doesnt mean he cant handle the run or that Mac wouldn't entertain bringing in someone more experienced to handle the coordination of that aspect of the offense. My personal bias is just against going down the 'pass first' route again.
4. Likelyhood the next OC sticks around if he is successful.
I'd also wager that John and Mac would value the fact that Schotty doesnt seem to have that HC itch. It may just be that he's necer achieved enough success to garner attention, but the fact that he seems to be content towing the line under Mcarthy and the lack of any word from him ever that he was ever not content coordinating should score high marks. The best of the winning frnachises are abke to maintain coaching continuity for stretches. KC is a great example. A defensive minded coach like Mac isnt going to want to have to reinvent the wheel every few years. It distracts his attention from his duties on defense.
Just my .02$, but i think Schotty would be a great fit here.
We shall see very soon.
Thoughts?
1.Accountability to your boss.
In the case of Schneider, i dont think his seat is hot, but i do think he was entrusted to take the team beyond the mediocre mark Pete captained them to. In his first year, i think he managed to show that we are building to something better, but overall the season has to be one viewed as one where the team underachieved.
On defense, we gave games away early in the season due to personnel erros that were made and the process of team maturation but managed to show immense progress as the season progressed.
On offense, despite flashes of brilliance, the season was characterized too often by fundamental errors that were a result of having to rely on a coordinator with little experience. As the season went on, the offense regressed, despite the line blocking better. That makes 3 years now where the potential of the offense has been squandered by a coach who was incapable of scheming success from a side with ample talent.
John isnt going to have the patience to tolerate another year of giving away victories because the OC is learning the job.
Schottenheimer had a solid record here as coordinator and i'm pretty sure, from John's perspective, should have been given more credit for getting the most from a qb in Russ who he considered to have worn out his welcome by virtue of how challenged he was at executing a traditional offense.
Schotty knows the NFL and has shown to be a good compliment to a defensive minded HC.
2. Experience, Compatibility, style, versatility.
Mike has made it clear the type of team identity he wants forged on bith sides of the ball. Hard-nosed, aggressive, intimidating. During Schoty's tenure here, he proved capable of scheming ground games that consistently finished in the top 10. He could also put together a more than adequate passing attack as was witnessed during the LRC year and prior, even if the fruit of his plans werent always realized.
He is strict, has spent a career coaching, and since leaving here has no doubt only grown his understanding of the offensive game having now studied under Mcarthy for a few years.
I'd wager Mac would welcome with open arms an OC who knows defense as well as his own side of the ball, knows how to control the clock and pound the rock, but can implement a sophisticated passing attack when the need arises. Schotty has that experience in spades having spent a good but if his career working across from a defensive minded coach.
The fact that Schotty would likely be granted a good bit of autonomy would also probably appeal to Schotty. He has earned his stripes, has the know-how, and had more history with the organization than Mac - All things that would seem to make him a solid fit.
Experience is also key here. Mac cant afford to have to divert attention from his duties to help a young or inexperienced coordinator become a leader.
3. Continuity / not starting from scratch.
Although not retaining Grubb would to a degree represent a reset, given hiw different his system is from the traditional NFL offense, moving to Schotty woukd allow Geno, Tyler, and DK to settle back into a system they largely already have experience in. The terminology and teaching of whateber new wrinkles Schotty has incorporated would be much easier and faster given the familiarity between him and some of the team's key personnel. I dont think the familiarity piece can be overstated as i cant see John or Mike being OK with another year of collective 'on the job learning' they had to tolerate with Grubb. The 2025 team needs to hit the ground running.
Jake Peets is another guy who could tick the familiarity box and is someone Mac seems fond of. The challenge with Peetz is that he's never done the job. Hiring from the MCvay tree sounds great, but we already gave his predcessor there a go and he failed miserably. Maybe Jake has shown something in his time here to instill faith in Mac and John that he wont be Waldron 2.0. My reservation is that, like Waldron and Grubb, he is a passing game specialist. That in and of itself doesnt mean he cant handle the run or that Mac wouldn't entertain bringing in someone more experienced to handle the coordination of that aspect of the offense. My personal bias is just against going down the 'pass first' route again.
4. Likelyhood the next OC sticks around if he is successful.
I'd also wager that John and Mac would value the fact that Schotty doesnt seem to have that HC itch. It may just be that he's necer achieved enough success to garner attention, but the fact that he seems to be content towing the line under Mcarthy and the lack of any word from him ever that he was ever not content coordinating should score high marks. The best of the winning frnachises are abke to maintain coaching continuity for stretches. KC is a great example. A defensive minded coach like Mac isnt going to want to have to reinvent the wheel every few years. It distracts his attention from his duties on defense.
Just my .02$, but i think Schotty would be a great fit here.
We shall see very soon.
Thoughts?