2013 - No Pick
2014 - No Pick
2015 - No Pick
2016 - Germain Ifedi
2017 - No Pick
2018 - Rashaad Penny
2019 - LJ Collier
2020 - Jordyn Brooks
2021 - No Pick (Very Likely)
2022 - No Pick (Likely, unless they trade a blue chip player.)
WOW! Only 4 selections in the 1st round in a decade, bad picks to boot when they did pick. Brooks looks good but he is playing the RB position of the defense trapped behind Wagner.
Holy Crap!
https://old.reddit.com/r/Seahawks/comments/m6odc4/til_poona_ford_will_become_only_the_seahawks/
Poona is only 4th player since 2013 to get a second contract from the Seahawks that they drafted/UDFA.
Britt, Lockett, & Reed being the others.
So in Rounds 2-7 & UDFA hasn't been that great either. I'm going to do a breakdown of other comparable teams when I have the time, but this is not good.
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*UPDATE*
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I'm doing a deep dive on the top 8 teams or thereabouts over the last 8 years + the Cowboys.
Looking at 1st round asset allocation firstly, the rest of their draft secondarily, and overall retention thirdly.
* If a team moved on from a guy (multi-year) and they succeed it will be classified as an "L."
* If a team re-signed a guy (multi-year) and they flopped it will be classified as an "L."
* If a team re-signed a guy (multi-year) and they succeed it will be classified as a "W."
* If a team moved on from a guy (multi-year) and they flopped it will be classified as a "W."
* The Bust label is applicable to 1st selection only, and ignored afterwards to avoid semantics. Unless the team in question has multiple 1st round picks, then all 1st rounders will be counted.
* 1st selections will be classified as busts who do not get big multi-year 2nd contracts with few exceptions, if any.
* 2nd selection and beyond, I am focusing on just the "Hits" (bigger multi-year contracts).
* 5 Designations in total: Hit, W, Retained, Bust, and L.
* SCORING SYSTEM:
+3 points for a Hit;
+2 points for Retained;
+1 point for a W;
Negative 1 point for an L;
Negative 3 points for a 1st Selection Bust;
Negative 3 points for Poor 1st rd Asset usage (Bad Trade).
First up is the 2013 NFL Draft.
BALTIMORE RAVENS 2013
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1st / 32 - Matt Elam (S) [BUST]
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Other Notable Selections:
094 - NT - Brandon Williams [W] 5 yrs $54M w/Baltimore - One of the best NTs in football.
130 - FB - Kyle Juszczyk [L] / 4 yrs $21M w/ SF + 5yrs $27M w/SF - Best FB in football.
168 - OT - Ricky Wagner [W] / 5 yrs $47.5M w/Detroit
203 - C - Ryan Jensen [L] / 4 yrs $42M w/Tampa Bay
UDFA - S - Brynden Trawick [L] Became a Pro-Bowl Special Teams Gunner with the Titans.
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Baltimore killed this draft, hitting on 5 players, but let 4 of them walk, smartly didn't pay Wagner, though.
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5 Hits; 2 W's; 1 Retained; 3 L's; 1 Bust = 13 points.
DALLAS COWBOYS 2013
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1st / 31 - Travis Frederick (C ) [HIT][W] - 5x Pro Bowl - 6 yrs 56.6M w/Dallas
*Dallas traded down from 18 to acquire the 74th pick which turned into:
Terrance Williams [L] 4 yrs $17M w/Dallas - Injuries and Substance abuse.
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Other Notable Selections: None
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Dallas hit on Frederick, Williams was an okay starter until he got paid, the rest of their draft was career backups and busts.
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1 Hit; 1 W; 1 Retained; 1 L = 5 points.
GREEN BAY PACKERS 2013
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1st / 26 - Datone Jones (DL) [BUST]
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Other Notable Selections:
061 - RB - Eddie Lacey - All Rookie Team and Pro Bowler
109 - LT - David Bakhtiari [W] - 4 yrs 48M + 4 yrs $105.5M w/Packers - 2x All-Pro - 3x 2nd Team All-Pro.
122 - C - JC Tretter [L] - 3 yrs $16.75M + 3yrs $32.5M w/Cleveland - Current NFLPA President.
159 - FS - Micah Hyde [L] - 5 yrs $30.5M w/Buffalo - 2nd Team All-Pro w/Buffalo.
UDFA - G - Lane Taylor [W] - 2 yrs $4.15M w/Packers + 3 yrs $16.5M w/Packers. Starter.
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Green Bay killed it, hitting on 5 players, Retaining Bakhtiari, losing Tretter because their O-Line was loaded. Let Lacey walk, but they won't get a W for it due to Lacey not getting a massive pay day when he fell off a cliff in SEA signing a 1 yr prove it deal (which he didn't).
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5 Hits; 2 W's; 2 Retained; 2 L's; 1 Bust = 16 points.
KANSAS CITY CHIEFS 2013
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1st / 1 - Eric Fisher (OT) [HIT][W] - 2x Pro Bowl - 4 yrs $48M extension w/Chiefs.
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Other Notable Selections:
063 - TE - Travis Kelce [W] 5 yrs $46M w/KC - 3x 1st Team All-Pro, 2x 2nd Team All-Pro.
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Fisher barely qualifies as a hit. He was good enough to get a 4 yr extension and make a couple of Pro Bowls, Kelce is a HoF TE.
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2 Hits; 2 W's; 2 Retained = 12 points
NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS 2013
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2nd / 52 - Jamie Collins (LB) (1st Draft Selection) [HIT][W] - 1x Pro Bowl - Traded to Cleveland, avoided paying big money; 4 yrs $50M w/Cleveland.
*New England Traded down from 29 acquiring the 83rd, 102nd, and 229th from Minnesota.
083 - CB - Logan Ryan [L] 3 yrs $30M w/Titans + 1 yr $7.5M w/Giants + 3 yrs $31M w/Giants.
He pick six'd TB on his last throw in Foxborough w/the Titans in the Playoffs, has 18 career INTs. 2x Super Bowl Champion.
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Other Notable Selections:
091 - S - Duron Harmon [W] 4 yrs $20M w/NE - 19 Career INTs, 3x Super Bowl Champion.
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NE got incredible value with the 29th pick, then wisely traded Jamie Collins when he was asking for crazy money, shouldn't have let Logan Ryan walk, finally they extended Duran Harmon at a great rate.
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3 Hits; 2 W's; 1 Retained; 1 L = 12 points
NEW ORLEANS SAINTS 2013
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1st / 15 - Kenny Vaccaro (S) [BUST]
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Other Notable Selections:
075 - LT - Terron Armstead [W] 5 yrs $65M w/NO - 3x Pro Bowl, 1x 2nd Team All-Pro.
144 - WR - Kenny Stills [W] 4 yrs $32M w/MIA. Fell off after getting paid.
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NO found a gem of a LT in the 3rd round, knew Stills wasn't worth paying so they traded him.
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2 Hits; 2 W's; 1 Retained; 1 Bust = 7 points
PITTSBURGH STEELERS 2013
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1st / 17 - Jarvis Jones (EDGE) [BUST]
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Other Notable Selections:
048 - RB - Le'Veon Bell [W] 2x 1st Team All-Pro - 4 yrs $52M w/NYJ.
206 - ILB - Vince Williams [W] 3 yrs $18.6M w/Pittsburgh.
UDFA - OL - Chris Hubbard [W] 5 yrs $37.5M w/Cleveland.
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Pittsburgh found the best young Runningback in football, then wisely didn't pay him as he floundered with the Jets. Big W. Found a starting LB in the 6th round and gave him a multi-year 2nd contract. Chis Hubbard was massively overpaid by Cleveland and was eventually benched.
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3 Hits; 3 W's; 1 Retained; 1 Bust = 11 points
SEATTLE SEAHAWKS 2013
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1st / 25 - Percy Harvin (WR) [Bad Trade][L] 6 yrs $66M w/Seattle
*Also traded a 2013 7th rounder, and a 2014 3rd rounder for Harvin.
2nd / 62 - Christine Michael (RB) (1st Draft Selection) [BUST]
* Seattle traded down from 56 for picks 165 and 199, did nothing with them.
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Other Notable Selections: None
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Seattle had 3 legendary drafts previously that put them in dynasty in the making territory. But this one might go down as the worst draft of the decade in the entire league. They selected 11 players, 12 if you want to include Harvin. They were all busts and backups. The Harvin trade did immense damage costing them multiple players down the road (can't keep everyone), and a future 3rd rd draft pick to boot. To add insult to injury Seattle spent their 1st selection on Chistine Michael as the heir apparent to Marshawn Lynch, passing up tons of O-Lineman in one of the great O-Line drafts of the century.
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0 Hits; 1 L; 1 Bust; 1 Bad Trade = Negative 7 points
THE RAMS (LA/ST. LOUIS) 2013
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1st / 8 - Tavon Austin (WR) [BUST][L] 4 yrs $42M w/The Rams.
* Leftovers from the RG III trade:
1st / 30 - Alec Ogletree (LB) [HIT][L] 2nd Team All-Pro - 4 yrs $42.75M w/The Rams.
*The Rams traded down from 22 picking up the 92nd and 198th picks, did nothing with them.
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Other Notable Selections: None
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The Rams overall had a terrible draft, but at least they were able to get quality play out of Alec Ogletree for 4 seasons. He fell off a cliff once he got paid though. Austin was foolishly given a big money extension as well despite doing really nothing of note for it. Never compiling 1,000 total yards in a single season as a runner/receiver. The Rams quickly regretted it.
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1 Hit; 2 Retained; 2 L's; 1 Bust = 2 points
TOTALS:
1st GB = 16 pts
2nd BAL = 13 pts
3rd KC = 12 pts
3rd NE = 12 pts
5th PIT = 11 pts
6th NO = 7 pts
7th DAL = 5 pts
8th RAM = 2 pts
9th SEA = -7 pts
I will post 2014 NEXT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2014 - No Pick
2015 - No Pick
2016 - Germain Ifedi
2017 - No Pick
2018 - Rashaad Penny
2019 - LJ Collier
2020 - Jordyn Brooks
2021 - No Pick (Very Likely)
2022 - No Pick (Likely, unless they trade a blue chip player.)
WOW! Only 4 selections in the 1st round in a decade, bad picks to boot when they did pick. Brooks looks good but he is playing the RB position of the defense trapped behind Wagner.
Holy Crap!
https://old.reddit.com/r/Seahawks/comments/m6odc4/til_poona_ford_will_become_only_the_seahawks/
Poona is only 4th player since 2013 to get a second contract from the Seahawks that they drafted/UDFA.
Britt, Lockett, & Reed being the others.
So in Rounds 2-7 & UDFA hasn't been that great either. I'm going to do a breakdown of other comparable teams when I have the time, but this is not good.
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*UPDATE*
/////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
I'm doing a deep dive on the top 8 teams or thereabouts over the last 8 years + the Cowboys.
Looking at 1st round asset allocation firstly, the rest of their draft secondarily, and overall retention thirdly.
* If a team moved on from a guy (multi-year) and they succeed it will be classified as an "L."
* If a team re-signed a guy (multi-year) and they flopped it will be classified as an "L."
* If a team re-signed a guy (multi-year) and they succeed it will be classified as a "W."
* If a team moved on from a guy (multi-year) and they flopped it will be classified as a "W."
* The Bust label is applicable to 1st selection only, and ignored afterwards to avoid semantics. Unless the team in question has multiple 1st round picks, then all 1st rounders will be counted.
* 1st selections will be classified as busts who do not get big multi-year 2nd contracts with few exceptions, if any.
* 2nd selection and beyond, I am focusing on just the "Hits" (bigger multi-year contracts).
* 5 Designations in total: Hit, W, Retained, Bust, and L.
* SCORING SYSTEM:
+3 points for a Hit;
+2 points for Retained;
+1 point for a W;
Negative 1 point for an L;
Negative 3 points for a 1st Selection Bust;
Negative 3 points for Poor 1st rd Asset usage (Bad Trade).
First up is the 2013 NFL Draft.
BALTIMORE RAVENS 2013
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1st / 32 - Matt Elam (S) [BUST]
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Other Notable Selections:
094 - NT - Brandon Williams [W] 5 yrs $54M w/Baltimore - One of the best NTs in football.
130 - FB - Kyle Juszczyk [L] / 4 yrs $21M w/ SF + 5yrs $27M w/SF - Best FB in football.
168 - OT - Ricky Wagner [W] / 5 yrs $47.5M w/Detroit
203 - C - Ryan Jensen [L] / 4 yrs $42M w/Tampa Bay
UDFA - S - Brynden Trawick [L] Became a Pro-Bowl Special Teams Gunner with the Titans.
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Baltimore killed this draft, hitting on 5 players, but let 4 of them walk, smartly didn't pay Wagner, though.
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5 Hits; 2 W's; 1 Retained; 3 L's; 1 Bust = 13 points.
DALLAS COWBOYS 2013
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1st / 31 - Travis Frederick (C ) [HIT][W] - 5x Pro Bowl - 6 yrs 56.6M w/Dallas
*Dallas traded down from 18 to acquire the 74th pick which turned into:
Terrance Williams [L] 4 yrs $17M w/Dallas - Injuries and Substance abuse.
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Other Notable Selections: None
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Dallas hit on Frederick, Williams was an okay starter until he got paid, the rest of their draft was career backups and busts.
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1 Hit; 1 W; 1 Retained; 1 L = 5 points.
GREEN BAY PACKERS 2013
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1st / 26 - Datone Jones (DL) [BUST]
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Other Notable Selections:
061 - RB - Eddie Lacey - All Rookie Team and Pro Bowler
109 - LT - David Bakhtiari [W] - 4 yrs 48M + 4 yrs $105.5M w/Packers - 2x All-Pro - 3x 2nd Team All-Pro.
122 - C - JC Tretter [L] - 3 yrs $16.75M + 3yrs $32.5M w/Cleveland - Current NFLPA President.
159 - FS - Micah Hyde [L] - 5 yrs $30.5M w/Buffalo - 2nd Team All-Pro w/Buffalo.
UDFA - G - Lane Taylor [W] - 2 yrs $4.15M w/Packers + 3 yrs $16.5M w/Packers. Starter.
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Green Bay killed it, hitting on 5 players, Retaining Bakhtiari, losing Tretter because their O-Line was loaded. Let Lacey walk, but they won't get a W for it due to Lacey not getting a massive pay day when he fell off a cliff in SEA signing a 1 yr prove it deal (which he didn't).
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5 Hits; 2 W's; 2 Retained; 2 L's; 1 Bust = 16 points.
KANSAS CITY CHIEFS 2013
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1st / 1 - Eric Fisher (OT) [HIT][W] - 2x Pro Bowl - 4 yrs $48M extension w/Chiefs.
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Other Notable Selections:
063 - TE - Travis Kelce [W] 5 yrs $46M w/KC - 3x 1st Team All-Pro, 2x 2nd Team All-Pro.
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Fisher barely qualifies as a hit. He was good enough to get a 4 yr extension and make a couple of Pro Bowls, Kelce is a HoF TE.
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2 Hits; 2 W's; 2 Retained = 12 points
NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS 2013
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2nd / 52 - Jamie Collins (LB) (1st Draft Selection) [HIT][W] - 1x Pro Bowl - Traded to Cleveland, avoided paying big money; 4 yrs $50M w/Cleveland.
*New England Traded down from 29 acquiring the 83rd, 102nd, and 229th from Minnesota.
083 - CB - Logan Ryan [L] 3 yrs $30M w/Titans + 1 yr $7.5M w/Giants + 3 yrs $31M w/Giants.
He pick six'd TB on his last throw in Foxborough w/the Titans in the Playoffs, has 18 career INTs. 2x Super Bowl Champion.
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Other Notable Selections:
091 - S - Duron Harmon [W] 4 yrs $20M w/NE - 19 Career INTs, 3x Super Bowl Champion.
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NE got incredible value with the 29th pick, then wisely traded Jamie Collins when he was asking for crazy money, shouldn't have let Logan Ryan walk, finally they extended Duran Harmon at a great rate.
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3 Hits; 2 W's; 1 Retained; 1 L = 12 points
NEW ORLEANS SAINTS 2013
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1st / 15 - Kenny Vaccaro (S) [BUST]
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Other Notable Selections:
075 - LT - Terron Armstead [W] 5 yrs $65M w/NO - 3x Pro Bowl, 1x 2nd Team All-Pro.
144 - WR - Kenny Stills [W] 4 yrs $32M w/MIA. Fell off after getting paid.
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NO found a gem of a LT in the 3rd round, knew Stills wasn't worth paying so they traded him.
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2 Hits; 2 W's; 1 Retained; 1 Bust = 7 points
PITTSBURGH STEELERS 2013
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1st / 17 - Jarvis Jones (EDGE) [BUST]
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Other Notable Selections:
048 - RB - Le'Veon Bell [W] 2x 1st Team All-Pro - 4 yrs $52M w/NYJ.
206 - ILB - Vince Williams [W] 3 yrs $18.6M w/Pittsburgh.
UDFA - OL - Chris Hubbard [W] 5 yrs $37.5M w/Cleveland.
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Pittsburgh found the best young Runningback in football, then wisely didn't pay him as he floundered with the Jets. Big W. Found a starting LB in the 6th round and gave him a multi-year 2nd contract. Chis Hubbard was massively overpaid by Cleveland and was eventually benched.
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3 Hits; 3 W's; 1 Retained; 1 Bust = 11 points
SEATTLE SEAHAWKS 2013
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1st / 25 - Percy Harvin (WR) [Bad Trade][L] 6 yrs $66M w/Seattle
*Also traded a 2013 7th rounder, and a 2014 3rd rounder for Harvin.
2nd / 62 - Christine Michael (RB) (1st Draft Selection) [BUST]
* Seattle traded down from 56 for picks 165 and 199, did nothing with them.
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Other Notable Selections: None
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Seattle had 3 legendary drafts previously that put them in dynasty in the making territory. But this one might go down as the worst draft of the decade in the entire league. They selected 11 players, 12 if you want to include Harvin. They were all busts and backups. The Harvin trade did immense damage costing them multiple players down the road (can't keep everyone), and a future 3rd rd draft pick to boot. To add insult to injury Seattle spent their 1st selection on Chistine Michael as the heir apparent to Marshawn Lynch, passing up tons of O-Lineman in one of the great O-Line drafts of the century.
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0 Hits; 1 L; 1 Bust; 1 Bad Trade = Negative 7 points
THE RAMS (LA/ST. LOUIS) 2013
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1st / 8 - Tavon Austin (WR) [BUST][L] 4 yrs $42M w/The Rams.
* Leftovers from the RG III trade:
1st / 30 - Alec Ogletree (LB) [HIT][L] 2nd Team All-Pro - 4 yrs $42.75M w/The Rams.
*The Rams traded down from 22 picking up the 92nd and 198th picks, did nothing with them.
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Other Notable Selections: None
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The Rams overall had a terrible draft, but at least they were able to get quality play out of Alec Ogletree for 4 seasons. He fell off a cliff once he got paid though. Austin was foolishly given a big money extension as well despite doing really nothing of note for it. Never compiling 1,000 total yards in a single season as a runner/receiver. The Rams quickly regretted it.
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1 Hit; 2 Retained; 2 L's; 1 Bust = 2 points
TOTALS:
1st GB = 16 pts
2nd BAL = 13 pts
3rd KC = 12 pts
3rd NE = 12 pts
5th PIT = 11 pts
6th NO = 7 pts
7th DAL = 5 pts
8th RAM = 2 pts
9th SEA = -7 pts
I will post 2014 NEXT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
