How bad was that Milroe option play

[RehireMora]

Something about it seemed fake. It's a play he ran many times in college, he had 1 play to practice all week, he was drafted for plays like this and that's what happens?

It's like a RB getting the ball and running backwards, it just seemed off.

 

[sutz]

How about an end to gadget plays period.

That's what Holmgren would have said.

 

[glenwo2]

I don't think they'll keep 3 next year. I think that's part of the reason they keep trying to use Milroe. He's already taking up a roster spot that they would normally use on another position, and they are trying to justify it by running a play or two with him.
The coaching staff has to know this is stupid by now, and to stop doing it. Just let Darnold take every snap like a normal starting QB, and let Milroe learn in practice and film study.

I think Milroe was drafted as Plan B in case Darnold did not pan out.

Well Darnold is panning out (and then some) so Milroe has become extra baggage on this team.

The Gadget plays disrupt offensive rhythm.

The coaches need to deactivate him and just sit him down to watch and learn (Red-shirt him) like he should've been.

 

[oldhawkfan]

If they want him to run the ball just have him line up at RB.

 

[glenwo2]

If they want him to run the ball just have him line up at RB.

 

[Kamcussionator]

I felt bad for Milroe on that play. He finally gets a chance to get on the field, correctly makes the pitch instead of taking it himself, and Walker isn’t where he’s supposed to be.

If you watch the replay Walker paces him in the trailing position and then, just at the read point, he turns up field. Milroe pitches it to where Walker is *supposed* to be — and hijinks ensue. I put the fumble on Walker 80/20.

 

[nwHawk]

I think Milroe was drafted as Plan B in case Darnold did not pan out.

Well Darnold is panning out (and then some) so Milroe has become extra baggage on this team.

The Gadget plays disrupt offensive rhythm.

The coaches need to deactivate him and just sit him down to watch and learn (Red-shirt him) like he should've been.

Spot on!

 

[RiverDog]

I felt bad for Milroe on that play. He finally gets a chance to get on the field, correctly makes the pitch instead of taking it himself, and Walker isn’t where he’s supposed to be.

If you watch the replay Walker paces him in the trailing position and then, just at the read point, he turns up field. Milroe pitches it to where Walker is *supposed* to be — and hijinks ensue. I put the fumble on Walker 80/20.

Except for the fact that Walker touched it (my old man used to say that if you can touch it, you can catch it), I don't put the fumble on K9 at all. K9 didn't stop and cut, he was on a sweeping arch-type running trajectory. Milroe could see where he was all the time. He just pitched it behind him.

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[SoulfishHawk]

Dumb, Cute, Stupid, Unnecessary, Ridiculous, drive killer, whatever you wanna' call it. Then again, I'll just get told that the words I use, getting too Cute, isn't acceptable

 

[oldhawkfan]

I felt bad for Milroe on that play. He finally gets a chance to get on the field, correctly makes the pitch instead of taking it himself, and Walker isn’t where he’s supposed to be.

If you watch the replay Walker paces him in the trailing position and then, just at the read point, he turns up field. Milroe pitches it to where Walker is *supposed* to be — and hijinks ensue. I put the fumble on Walker 80/20.

You know this for a fact? Have you looked at the playbook and know for a fact where every player should be at any given point during a play? If you do, I’d love access to that information.

 

[Jac]

I think Milroe was drafted as Plan B in case Darnold did not pan out.

Well Darnold is panning out (and then some) so Milroe has become extra baggage on this team.

The Gadget plays disrupt offensive rhythm.

The coaches need to deactivate him and just sit him down to watch and learn (Red-shirt him) like he should've been.

I agree that they should deactivate him, but he's not baggage from a roster building POV. This is what they should have been doing for the past two decades. Drafting young QBs to sit and learn.

 

[bileever]

This type of option play doesn't work in the NFL, period. Defenses are too fast and disciplined.

It would make more sense for Milroe to run an RPO play.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Was excited about an OC for once. Now? Not at all.

 

[Sperrydogg]

I felt bad for Milroe on that play. He finally gets a chance to get on the field, correctly makes the pitch instead of taking it himself, and Walker isn’t where he’s supposed to be.

If you watch the replay Walker paces him in the trailing position and then, just at the read point, he turns up field. Milroe pitches it to where Walker is *supposed* to be — and hijinks ensue. I put the fumble on Walker 80/20.

That’s sounds like a geNo excuse lol

 

[Sperrydogg]

Dumb, Cute, Stupid, Unnecessary, Ridiculous, drive killer, whatever you wanna' call it. Then again, I'll just get told that the words I use, getting too Cute, isn't acceptable

Too ugly

 

[Jazzhawk]

I mean on every level of a football play that was terrible. Not just Milroe. The call in that moment was absurd. Did you put Milroe out there cause you thought he was gonna make a play? Or maybe cause he needed a little game time for his development? Right then? While Darnold was just starting to dice bucs? I mean poor timing. And obviously the blocking, execution, decision making everything about the play was wrong.
That loss of possession directly cost points and led to the Bucs scoring, swinging the momentum of the game just when we were starting to roll.
Terrible decision

The Milroe experiment is an abject failure, and a complete waste of a good 3rd round pick. Please, send him to the practice squad and stop using him in these stupid change of pace plays. the offense has shown they don’t need it.

 

[Sperrydogg]

This type of option play doesn't work in the NFL, period. Defenses are too fast and disciplined.

It would make more sense for Milroe to run an RPO play.

Or a draw, or if you really think getting cute is cute then have Milroe throw a cute bomb over the top… that would be so cute no one would see it coming

 

[Trackhawk]

I don't really get all the angst over this play, outside of the unfortunate outcome.

It was likely a scripted play, and almost certainly designed more for sniffing out how the defense was going to react to it, rather than to have much success with it. It was likely also designed to set up both the Tampa Bay defense, and future defenses, for different plays with the same look.

It was executed at a relatively safe time and field position in the game. 8 times out of 10, it gets stopped for minimal to no gain, but typically, gain isn't the point of the play. It's setting things up for the future.

It was first and ten in their end of the field, with plenty of time and space for Darnold to make up for it on second and third down.

There are a lot of options with that look. Darnold was on the field and in motion, crossing behind Milroe at the snap. Milroe could have handed it off to him, for a deep pass. Milroe could take the RPO, designed QB run, or pass it himself. Or, you could run the option. Darnold could run in front of Milroe, and take the direct snap. Or you could swap Milroe and Darnold, and have Milroe in motion, taking the direct snap, on a designed counter run.

Yes NFL defenses are well versed at defending the option, but the next time you give them that look, they will likely over-pursue the option play, while you are running something else.

I like the call in that situation, it just had a bad outcome. Occasionally, bad outcomes happen in the NFL.

The main argument I see against it is that it disrupted the rhythm that Darnold was settling into. Maybe so. In retrospect he was. At the time, it wasn't entirely clear.

Was it a great call? No. Was it a reasonable call, given the down, distance, field position, and the fact that we hadn't scored yet, and it appeared that our defense was coming on strong? I would argue that it was.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

One bad play call, and now Milroe somehow sucks. Guess I shouldn't be surprised on dot exaggeration.

 

[sutz]

I felt bad for Milroe on that play. He finally gets a chance to get on the field, correctly makes the pitch instead of taking it himself, and Walker isn’t where he’s supposed to be.

If you watch the replay Walker paces him in the trailing position and then, just at the read point, he turns up field. Milroe pitches it to where Walker is *supposed* to be — and hijinks ensue. I put the fumble on Walker 80/20.

Because he (K9 ) was about to run out of bounds.