Danny Kelly: NFL has Bevell's number in passing game

[NFSeahawks]

I brought up Bevell last year to much dismay from other netters yet here we are again. The offense could be a lot better and a lot smoother but it just might take someone new at OC. I constantly feel like this team is being held back from potential on offense.

 

[City Of Reign]

Bring in Chip Kelley when he gets fired at the end of the season ::sarcasm::

Actually, I'd kinda be intrigued by the notion. You have to take the good with the bad with Kelly, but there is no denying his offensive savvy.

But like stated before, I don't think Bevelle is going anywhere.

 

[MLOhawks]

I've said it since the day we hired him, I HATE BEVELL!


The coordinator, not the person.

 

[City Of Reign]

Speaking of potential offseason o-coordinators that might be available, I'd pick up Kyle shannahan in a heartbeat. It's not his fault what has happened to RG3, but when RG3 was healthy that offense was beautiful. Unlike RG3, Wilson knows how to protect his body, and extends plays rather than scrambling. I just think with Cable's zone blocking already tying into what K.Shannahan does it'd be a great fit.

 

[justafan]

I think its funny how bloggers and fans complain about outdated passing concepts.These routes and concepts have been around for 40 50 even 60 years,And they still work.There are few if any geniuses or innovators these days and Bates certainly wouldnt qualify.
Even faulk should look at where Martz got his offensive ideas from before he spouts off.His offense worked because it was full of HOFers who executed as well as any fan could hope.Thats Martzs strenght coaching precision.Put him in Detroit with marginal talent and Martz sucks.Even more than I thought he would.
It has and always will come down to timing, precision routes and execution.The more talent an OC has the smarter the OC is.
If people want to complain that Bevell is a coach who cant get the team to execute the routes or develop the timing and cohesion needed to be consistent they might have an argument but all NFL coaches have the same routes and concepts in there notebooks.
They put up 400 yds and the only thing that stopped them was bonehead plays at the wrong time.Route concepts didnt have much to do with it IMO.

 

[Tech Worlds]

I think its funny how bloggers and fans complain about outdated passing concepts.These routes and concepts have been around for 40 50 even 60 years,And they still work.There are few if any geniuses or innovators these days and Bates certainly wouldnt qualify.
Even faulk should look at where Martz got his offensive ideas from before he spouts off.His offense worked because it was full of HOFers who executed as well as any fan could hope.Thats Martzs strenght coaching precision.Put him in Detroit with marginal talent and Martz sucks.Even more than I thought he would.
It has and always will come down to timing, precision routes and execution.The more talent an OC has the smarter the OC is.
If people want to complain that Bevell is a coach who cant get the team to execute the routes or develop the timing and cohesion needed to be consistent they might have an argument but all NFL coaches have the same routes and concepts in there notebooks.
They put up 400 yds and the only thing that stopped them was bonehead plays at the wrong time.Route concepts didnt have much to do with it IMO.

Nice points.

 

[bestfightstory]

Yeah. I mean yeah. Bevell Bevell Bevell Bevell.


Why is Pete Carroll so stupid? We all see how bad Bevell is?

Why is Pete Carroll so blind?

His Bradley cost us a Siper Bowl.

Because Pete Carroll didn't see what everybody here on.NET thought was painfully obvious.

 

[Scottemojo]

The ghost of 150 in 3 games is haunting Bevell right now.

 

[themunn]

Seattle has faced 5 defenses in the top 11 in yards and the Jaguars, who they had beaten so soundly by halftime that they could afford to rest starters.

In those 6 games, they have "beaten the average" ie - they gained more yards than they have allowed on average in their games against other opponents in all but one - the SF game, where we dominated regardless.
Additionally they have "beaten the average" in scoring in 4 of the games - the games at Carolina and at Houston the exceptions.

When we start facing teams with poor-middling defenses (ie, every team left on the schedule not called San Francisco) we'll see our "fortunes" turn

 

[Happy]

There are few if any geniuses or innovators these days and Bates certainly wouldnt qualify.

Mike McCoy. I think the man is a genius and he's doing very good things.

I could go into what it was I saw Bates doing that I thought was great but unfortunately I don't have a lot of free time to chat on message boards these days. Oh well. Certainly respect that you have a difference of opinion.

Regarding the use of concepts that are 50 years old and how that relates to innovation, well, there's only twelve notes in the chromatic scale but people are still finding ways to innovate with it in the 2600 years or so since it was invented.

Some good discussion going on in the main forum lately. I like it.

-s

 

[AbsolutNET]

His concepts are painfully obvious and basic. Verts, boot, and now slants. That's about it. The play action game caught fire today in the 2nd half, but we still have no ability to pick apart underneath coverage. Another week, and nothing inside the hashes.

Are you seeing all of this from TV coverage?

Yeah, there's no way I am going to take the time to get the all 22 and break it down. Every now and then something neat pops out of his bag of tricks, but when we are running levels with the first receiver behind the line of scrimmage, there's a problem. I think Darrel has a few good ideas, but I really don't think he knows how to put together a passing package - too much "grab bag" play calling.

 

[bestfightstory]

Some of you should really contact Pete Carroll with these insights.

 

[AbsolutNET]

Some of you should really contact Pete Carroll with these insights.

That old forum gem? I guess you're right though, every NFL coach is good at everything they do with no room to improve.

 

[bestfightstory]

Some of you should really contact Pete Carroll with these insights.

That old forum gem? I guess you're right though, every NFL coach is good at everything they do with no room to improve.

Yep. That's what I said.

 

[Evil_Shenanigans]

I think its funny how bloggers and fans complain about outdated passing concepts.These routes and concepts have been around for 40 50 even 60 years,And they still work.There are few if any geniuses or innovators these days and Bates certainly wouldnt qualify.
Even faulk should look at where Martz got his offensive ideas from before he spouts off.His offense worked because it was full of HOFers who executed as well as any fan could hope.Thats Martzs strenght coaching precision.Put him in Detroit with marginal talent and Martz sucks.Even more than I thought he would.
It has and always will come down to timing, precision routes and execution.The more talent an OC has the smarter the OC is.
If people want to complain that Bevell is a coach who cant get the team to execute the routes or develop the timing and cohesion needed to be consistent they might have an argument but all NFL coaches have the same routes and concepts in there notebooks.
They put up 400 yds and the only thing that stopped them was bonehead plays at the wrong time.Route concepts didnt have much to do with it IMO.

THIS^

 

[AbsolutNET]

So you're genuinely suggesting that I contact Pete Carroll because I think one of his coaches needs to improve on something? I completely believe you were not being sarcastic because I was criticizing an NFL coach.

 

[pehawk]

No one asked you to contact Pete over starting Wilson over your boy Flynn, BFS. So, cant we gripe about Bevell?

 

[Tech Worlds]

I call Pete constantly and leave messages.

He never calls me back.

 

[bestfightstory]

So you're genuinely suggesting that I contact Pete Carroll because I think one of his coaches needs to improve on something? I completely believe you were not being sarcastic because I was criticizing an NFL coach.

It is clear to me that Pete would benefit from your analysis of this situation.

 

[AbsolutNET]

So you're genuinely suggesting that I contact Pete Carroll because I think one of his coaches needs to improve on something? I completely believe you were not being sarcastic because I was criticizing an NFL coach.

It is clear to me that Pete would benefit from your analysis of this situation.

I guess I deserve that for trying to have a conversation near your pedestal.