My Takeaways from the Game Tonight

[MORGULON]

The offense and defense lines were the difference.

Detroit wanted it and made it happen.

 

[chris98251]

Well when your missing a Couple LB'S, your whole starting D line and then lose a safety, it shows what pressure does to help the secondary. Goff typically isn't a swing for the fences QB, he is good at the dink and dunk stuff however, it's a game a patience with him, Cheat and they will call a long ball or a streak or fly route where he can let his guy run to it.

Can't be mad at effort, mad at blown calls, mad at trying to overcompensate, maybe. Cant be mad at fighting to the end, weird game for sure, led most the stat lines but lost anyway.

 

[Vesuve]

Some comments and selected tape including some good hard blocking by....Top Billin'

 

[BGHawk]

It didn't help that Detroit opened super highways for their boys to run down. Receivers were wide open and caught everything on the fly. We need to improve on defense of we want to win anything. Maybe MM should sit down and watch tape...Immediately!

 

[SeaWolv]

I had hoped that the Lions being without their Pro Bowl center would make a difference, but I guess having 4/5th of a great O-line is still pretty good.

I know we were down a few players, but it would have been nice if the defense could have made a few more stops, gotten a turnover, or at least forced Goff to have an incomplete pass.

We couldn't stop the run or the pass. I hope that it's a learning moment for the defense and Macdonald.

Being without Williams, Murphy, Nwosu, Mafe and Baker is more than a few players that's 4 of your front 7, plus Murphy. Then they lose Love. That's nearly half your defense.

Take away the Metcalf fumble, get the 2 point conversion and DPI on Metcalf calls right and Seattle wins that game.

The Lions were 3 points from beating the Niners in San Fran and going to their first Super Bowl earlier this year. You could even make the argument they should have won that game but for 2 bad play calls. They are a very good team. Yeah they started out slow but that can happen. Even with good teams. It's where they finish that matters.

Can you imagine where the Hawks would be if Geno had Detroit's Oline? They'd be contenders for sure. Which gives me hope that they may be closer than I thought. If JS can improve our Oline and shore up our secondary the Seahawks will be in the thick of a title run next season.

They may still make the playoffs this year and maybe even win a playoff game.

 

[Nosferatu]

I totally understand fighting for yards but the whole game turned on the DK fumble. Totally different ball game if that didn't happen. Not blaming him at all but football is such a "turning point" type game and that one play did it for us.

 

[Appyhawk]

We came up on the short end of the final score, but I take this game as a win for the Seahawks. To actually make a game out of this while fielding a lot of guys just recently signed as fillers is astounding. I see a lot of posts upstream that are crafted by authors who must be on drugs or have impaired vision.
We faced a top notch opponent on their home field using a collection of pet ponies to counter their thoroughbred horses. Quite a display of competence by our coaching staff and skill players IMO.
The biggest negative outside decisions by officials and a remarkably tough night by Tyler and DK is that we lost so many of our key players just before heading into a gauntlet of games with very limited time between them. Three games in ten days is a scheduling trap for anyone.
I am very proud of the showing by our guys in the white shirts. We are on our way up.

 

[Loganpatch]

I think that Grubb needs to call a more balanced game. Can't have Geno throwing 56 times in the game. That's way too much in my opinion.

when your down you have to throw more, so that isn't a Grubb issue really

 

[DarkVictory23]

The biggest negative outside decisions by officials and a remarkably tough night by Tyler and DK is that we lost so many of our key players just before heading into a gauntlet of games with very limited time between them. Three games in ten days is a scheduling trap for anyone.

I think this schedule is part of why we lost so many key players.

3 games in 11 days is brutal. If you aren't judicious here with your personnel, you are risking losing players long term in weeks 4-6.

Do we want to win on Monday night? Yeah, but you don't want to risk your entire season only a quarter of the way into it when you're currently up 2 games in the division to do it.

 

[CalgaryFan05]

I think you could fix any one of like two or three moments in this game, we could have straight up won.

It sucks to get your first loss, but on the road, stacked with injuries all located in one specific area, against a tough team who are custom built to take advantage of those injuries, and you seriously are one bad call or one fumble away from winning? I think, honestly, you've gotta feel confident coming out of this.

I only caught the last quarter, or really late in the third, but from seeing the highlights - I'd completely agree with your first statement. We were in it. We were fighting, that's for sure. Couple of bad breaks. And I can't put too much on DK for the turnover - he was clawing. Felt bad for him seeing him on the sideline after the play.

This team has spirit. If we can get the Oline fixed, bolted up, patched up - whatever, and we get some dogs back on D - I don't see a huge problem. No lack of effort from Geno.

I haven't seen DK fighting like that, well - IMO, pretty much ever.

MM has brought some spirit back to the team. Fighting spirit. I love it. We need to move on from last night. It wasn't that bad.

 

[James in PA]

My takeaway: we're winning our division and Minny is winning their division and we're going to get those bitches (Detroit) in our house in the playoffs.

 

[Nosferatu]

For the margin of victory, it was a close game. They played well and kept fighting but couldn't really overcome going down quickly in the first quarter. Totally proud of them and there is no doubt they make the playoffs.

 

[CouchLogic]

The back-ups showed why they are second/third stringers. Couldn't lock it down when they needed to, but showed some fight.

We all knew the OL/DL was going to be a turnstile all night, the outcome could have been much worse. Seattle went the distance, just couldn't pull it out in the end.

Execute better next time.

 

[oldhawkfan]

My take away from this game is that defensive line starters are important. The more starters that are out the more importanter they are to the overall game. When everyone is healthy and playing, the defense can get into a nice rhythm of rotating guys in and out. This keeps them fresh and ready to go. When your starters are out, the backups get more playing time and less rest because the guys behind them aren’t really even backups. They are depth guys essentially coming and going from the practice squad.

On Friday Quinton Bohanna was signed to the practice squad. He played in last nights game. When I saw him in the game, my instant thought was, we are seriously down to the scrap heap to fill out the d line for this game. This guy was really ready to play, in this defense, on Monday night, after being on the team for three days?!?!

I’m not dismissing him as a potential player down the road for the Seahawks. But when you have to go this far down the roster to find a warm body, you’re lucky to get out of that game with only a 13 point loss.

 

[Fresno Hawk]

when your down you have to throw more, so that isn't a Grubb issue really

Well that maybe true, we got down early in the first quarter. Being down in the first quarter should not be a reason to abandon the run game. And it's not just this game it's been all season we've been passing alot so far.

 

[MORGULON]

My take away from this game is that defensive line starters are important. The more starters that are out the more importanter they are to the overall game. When everyone is healthy and playing, the defense can get into a nice rhythm of rotating guys in and out. This keeps them fresh and ready to go. When your starters are out, the backups get more playing time and less rest because the guys behind them aren’t really even backups. They are depth guys essentially coming and going from the practice squad.

On Friday Quinton Bohanna was signed to the practice squad. He played in last nights game. When I saw him in the game, my instant thought was, we are seriously down to the scrap heap to fill out the d line for this game. This guy was really ready to play, in this defense, on Monday night, after being on the team for three days?!?!

I’m not dismissing him as a potential player down the road for the Seahawks. But when you have to go this far down the roster to find a warm body, you’re lucky to get out of that game with only a 13 point loss.

It's tough to get defensier when down to guys that were playing video games last week.

 

[CalgaryFan05]

Take away the Metcalf fumble, get the 2 point conversion and DPI on Metcalf calls right and Seattle wins that game.

 

[Bear-Hawk]

Our offensive line is the 31st rated in both Pass Block Win Rate and Run Block Win Rate. Only the Patriots are worse.

Bears O-Line is bad, too... but ours is actually worse, believe it or not. Our QB is just better (and also not a rookie learning NFL game speed).

Seahawks and Bears offensive lines are both awful. Jenkins just got injured again, and Brax is playing worst of his career— maybe never fully recovered from his neck injury. Verse destroyed him last week. Center position has been weak for 3 years now, and don’t get me started on Nate Davis and his $30 million contract.

 

[Torc]

1.) Can we not do the 'every team has injuries, no excuses' thing anymore? I think this game settles that if basically your entire front seven is sitting in a hospital room (and you lose a starting safety during the game), that's a giant issue. Flat out. It seems like the only time people want to admit an injury matters is when it's a QB, but I think losing a whole freakin' D-Line should be somewhat considered equivalent.

2.) It's borderline criminal that we have Geno Smith playing behind that offensive line in this state going on a second season in a row now. On the other hand, how impressive were he and Kenneth Walker at actually making stuff happen in this circumstance?

3.) This team fights to the end. Gotta give it up to them.

4.) I wasn't overly pissed at the officiating this game, but that no-call PI on DK Metcalf in the end zone cost us 7. That was as blatant as pass interference gets and Monday Night Football officiating commenter guy: Your job isn't supposed to be to cover for referee incompetence.

5.) Going for 2 wasn't actually a bad call. There are reasons to do it. It allows us to tie (if we ever got stops) with two field goals and it puts us in the driver's seat to play for a win if we get it. The only reason I don't trust that call is because with this O-Line, we don't have a consistent short yardage running game which I think you need to keep a defense honest in that situation. (It was, however, a mistake not to challenge the ruling that it wasn't a catch. But rookie head coaches make mistakes.)


Fun, but really, really frustrating game.

1. to those saying "but why did our secondary suck so bad, they weren't injured?" When the QB is having zero pressure, he gets to sit back, grab an espresso, and pick his targets. No CB, no matter how good, can keep blanket a receiver for long periods of time - there's going to be an opening, somewhere. Goff got to pick and choose nice safe passes. We also had a group of young players in who are generally not all playing at the same time. Tackling definitely sucked (I forget the exact numbers but at some point in the second half they flashed a stat that showed something like 75% of Goff's passing yards were after the catch). Macdonald will be honest about where he didn't put players in the right places, and where the players got themselves out of position.

2. Geno was amazing. K9 was amazing. We've spent some capital on the Oline the past few years, but doesn't always seem to net quality players. Grubb was an Oline coach before being OC, hopefully he can help pick some good prospects in the coming draft. But Macdonald may push to spend high picks on defense.

3. agreed

4. I thought the officiating wasn't great, but wasn't biased either. Missed calls both ways.

5. Scoring plays are automatically reviewed. I think that applies to potential scoring plays too. If Macdonald throws a challenge flag there he gets a penalty. This one is on the NFL - the booth or New York should have called for a review there. But I agreed with the announcers (I don't know which one said it) that generally if you get a do-over for a two point conversion you go ahead with the kick (unless you're in a situation where you have to have the 2 points).

 

[SoulfishHawk]

516 yards and 38 first downs. All while getting some brutal calls against and brutal NON calls that would have added to those totals.
They were in that game without 5-7 of their starters for all or most of that game.

I honestly am more confident in this team, even after a tough loss. Homer or not, this is a playoff level team.