Danny Kelly: NFL has Bevell's number in passing game

[Happy]

I've never been a fan of Bevell. I thought bates was a genius but he had a little problem with following instructions apparently so this is what we got as an alternative. ::shrug::

 

[birdman5]

I think Zach Miller is really missed when he isn't in there. His big body is the best short to intermediate target and can stay in to block as well. Not something the rest of our tight ends seem capable of at this point.

 

[KitsapGuy]

Maybe we can get Sark to be the guest OC on Thursday.

 

[MontanaHawk05]

Deon and Marshall Fulk said the same things last week pretty much verbatim.

Yeah, but now it's coming from credible people. *rimshot*

I also think it's just too easy to assume that Harvin will fix things. I don't have the impression that he's ever been a separation guy down the field. He strikes me as Golden Tate plus.

 

[General Manager]

It's hard to make completions when no one's open. This has been a problem all year and it's on the whole WR group, at the same time the O-line has issue's to so there's more to it than scheme . That's not to say there isn't alot of room for improvement in the passing scheme and the play calling.

 

[hawkfannj]

Enter: Percy Harvin

Sorry but I truly believe he is not going to magically make this O go .
Didn't they try that in minny? Yes he is a special player but lets keep it in perspective
There is a problem here.

 

[Tech Worlds]

So we are screwed then. If teams have schemed our offense into mediocrity that is alarming.

Bevell aint going anywhere and I dont have confidence that the offense as is can win us a title.

 

[pehawk]

I'm still in benefit of the doubt mode. No one will ever convince me otherwise, that Pete keeps tight to peak at the right time. We saw it last year and I have no reason to think it wont happen this year.

 

[zhawk]

it not dynamic, but i'll take 5-1 and be happy. we've played tight games and only lost 1, and really should of won that. am I the only one who saw some nfl official engineering I this game too?

 

[hawk45]

When we get the line healthy and playing together a game or three in a row my hope is that playcalling shortcomings will be mitigated and Bevell will turn out to be good *enough* to get us the trophy with Wilson pulling rabbits out of hats at times.

Not happy with the offense right now, but can't condemn it as hopeless with such an important piece ailing.

 

[keasley45]

So we are screwed then. If teams have schemed our offense into mediocrity that is alarming.

Bevell aint going anywhere and I dont have confidence that the offense as is can win us a title.

I agree with this, unless Russ is given full freedom to adjust at the line and switch to the best of the plays available. I thought i saw more of this today and thought the O was actually more efficient than it has been in the last two games, and i've been uber critical of Bevell. Favre made Bevell look like a genius. Maybe if #3 has access to the whole playbook and can filter out the BS Bevell sends in, we can see some success.

 

[MontanaHawk05]

No one will ever convince me otherwise, that Pete keeps tight to peak at the right time. We saw it last year and I have no reason to think it wont happen this year.

The Bills and Cardinals were dumpster awful, and so were the Redskins with RG3 crippled. I don't take much from those games. I find the Bears/Rams/Falcons games far more informative about our offense's potential, and that's an uglier picture.

 

[Happy]

So we are screwed then.

Russell wilson.

 

[Sports Hernia]

Hogwash on all of you! Bevell is the perfect play caller and has NEVER made a bad play call ever! His schemes are pure genious! :sarcasm_off:

In all seriousness I think up to this point he has been borderline poor.

I think the guy has the potential to be a very good playcaller see the 3 game stretch last year of 50, 58, 42 points...... Bevell was the playcaller. I think once the entire O-line gets back and once we get Harvin back, I think it will get better, though I'd like to see improvements before then.

At this moment the team doesn't have the talent to be predictable on a consistent basis, if a Joe Nobody schmuck like me can tell when a play is coming, I'd think opposing D-cords know as well.

Hopefully it gets fixed sooner than later, when it does look out!

 

[pehawk]

No one will ever convince me otherwise, that Pete keeps tight to peak at the right time. We saw it last year and I have no reason to think it wont happen this year.

The Bills and Cardinals were dumpster awful, and so were the Redskins with RG3 crippled. I don't take much from those games. I find the Bears/Rams/Falcons games far more informative about our offense's potential, and that's an uglier picture.

Maybe...maybe.

I'm still going to wait...and I hated the Bevell hire to begin with.

 

[hawksfansinceday1]

If indeed the Hawks are trying to throw deep all the time I have to ask why? This team simply does not have the right WRs to go deep consistently. There's no true burner in the WR corps. As an occasional 'catch 'em by surprise' strategy, sure. But in order to go deep a lot, you need guys with speed that get open downfield a lot (all you old-timers think Raiders with Cliff Branch or Chargers with Lance Alworth). No wonder I've complained so much about our WRs not getting open.

 

[JSeahawks]

If indeed the Hawks are trying to throw deep all the time I have to ask why? This team simply does not have the right WRs to go deep consistently. There's no true burner in the WR corps. As an occasional 'catch 'em by surprise' strategy, sure. But in order to go deep a lot, you need guys with speed that get open downfield a lot (all you old-timers think Raiders with Cliff Branch or Chargers with Lance Alworth). No wonder I've complained so much about our WRs not getting open.

I would actually argue that the deep ball is the strength of our WR's. They don't do it with speed though, they do it with their ability to go up and get the ball.

 

[hox]

In addition to back up o-line men who haven't mastered the play book and can not pass protect, TE is an obvious weakness. Zach Miller and Mccoy were basically our intermediate routes.

And yes, it's also scheme. There aren't many quick pass plays to get RW into any kind of rhythm. It's either a run, or the big, low percentage "gap" play. That style is going to lead to feast or famine.

Finally I wish we could get Doug Baldwin the ball more, and not only on 3rd down.

 

[Sports Hernia]

If indeed the Hawks are trying to throw deep all the time I have to ask why? This team simply does not have the right WRs to go deep consistently. There's no true burner in the WR corps. As an occasional 'catch 'em by surprise' strategy, sure. But in order to go deep a lot, you need guys with speed that get open downfield a lot (all you old-timers think Raiders with Cliff Branch or Chargers with Lance Alworth). No wonder I've complained so much about our WRs not getting open.

I would actually argue that the deep ball is the strength of our WR's. They don't do it with speed though, they do it with their ability to go up and get the ball.

THIS!

 

[KK84]

Finally I wish we could get Doug Baldwin the ball more, and not only on 3rd down.

100% agree. I love what dbfresh gives us in the slot. With more targets he could be a poor mans welker