Busting the Myth: Seahawks QB Russell Wilson Has Ice in His

[Sgt. Largent]

I have no idea how to look up weather stats Tical, but I'd imagine most if not all QB's stats drop when the weather gets down under 25 degrees.

Same with WR stats, same with TE stats, etc. It's cold, hard to throw and catch the ball.

This isn't really earth shattering information.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

It was interesting when they had Mahomes being mic'd up during their snow game. He talked about how he would much rather play in the snow than the rain.

 

[Ozzy]

Cold good, rain bad. That's all you need to know about Russell.

Beat me to it. I don't worry about Russ in the cold. Now the rain? That's a whole different ballgame.

I will never understand why any 12 would spend time being so contrarian about Russell Wilson. A future Hall of Famer and easily the best QB this franchise has ever seen. Ah, keep ignoring the noise, Russ and keep doing what you always have done and that's winning football games.

It's odd that at this point people wont appreciate what Wilson is. With Tical his run at all costs philosophy clouds his judgement. Sadly Wilson is an all time great and some fans are going to miss out on enjoying the process.

 

[Sgt. Largent]

Cold good, rain bad. That's all you need to know about Russell.

Beat me to it. I don't worry about Russ in the cold. Now the rain? That's a whole different ballgame.

I will never understand why any 12 would spend time being so contrarian about Russell Wilson. A future Hall of Famer and easily the best QB this franchise has ever seen. Ah, keep ignoring the noise, Russ and keep doing what you always have done and that's winning football games.

To be fair to Russell, for some reason our entire team stinks in the rain. Guys drop more balls, more fumbles, guys on the defense can't tackle.

The Baltimore game is perfect example. Sloppy, drops, fumbles, tons of missed tackles. Weird outlier for a team that plays in an outdoor stadium in Seattle. But there it is. The struggle is real.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

VERY good point, the entire team. But in that Ravens game, Russ did look real tentative. We need locked in Russ, that's the guy who wins game after game. Including last week, he was just nails throughout the day. Especially on 3rd and long and that last pass to DK.

 

[KiwiHawk]

Holy crap there are a lot of unsupported claims in this thread, mired in a cesspool of logical fallacies and twisting words. Seriously one of the worst ever on this forum, from both "sides" of the "argument", and I use both those terms loosely because things have been misinterpreted and twisted about so badly it's difficult to recognise either.

Worst. Thread. Ever.

 

[Ozzy]

Tical practices hand offs with a heavy bag in the garage and tells whoever ventures in that if we only handed the ball of more in the Dallas Playoff game we have another SB for the mantle. I wouldn't take him all that seriously.

 

[scutterhawk]

I heard an interesting stat today that also dispels the rhetoric.

Wilson highest passer ratings for career come between 21 and 43 degrees.

That just so happens to be late in the season during prime time of the year.

His career rating in these temps is 97.6.

Under 26 degrees, his numbers drop significantly from there. Completing like 56% of his passes, with more INT than TD. It will be low 20's this weekend.

Maybe you should consider at least an attempt at posting something near the truth from time to time.

You wouldn't know the truth if it came up and bit you on the Keister...Did you even read the article?, yeah, I didn't think so. :141847_bnono:

 

[scutterhawk]

Makes total sense. But, problems in the rain is not just a Russ thing, MANY QB's in the league struggle in the rain for obvious reasons.

Agree ^ ..Seems to me I remember a club that was coming to play in Seattle, practiced a bunch with wetted down balls, for several days, trying to adjust for the anticipated rain showers that were in the forecast….So, as you say, it affects ALL Quarterbacks.

 

[scutterhawk]

Cold good, rain bad. That's all you need to know about Russell.

Beat me to it. I don't worry about Russ in the cold. Now the rain? That's a whole different ballgame.

I will never understand why any 12 would spend time being so contrarian about Russell Wilson. A future Hall of Famer and easily the best QB this franchise has ever seen. Ah, keep ignoring the noise, Russ and keep doing what you always have done and that's winning football games.

It's odd that at this point people wont appreciate what Wilson is. With Tical his run at all costs philosophy clouds his judgement. Sadly Wilson is an all time great and some fans are going to miss out on enjoying the process.

What I don't get, is FANS who make the CHOICE to keep making the same wrong turns, you'd assume that sooner or later, that he would figure out that he's been WAY OFF the mark all along.....Some don't know, and some don't even suspect.

 

[John63]

I heard an interesting stat today that also dispels the rhetoric.

Wilson highest passer ratings for career come between 21 and 43 degrees.

That just so happens to be late in the season during prime time of the year.

His career rating in these temps is 97.6.

Under 26 degrees, his numbers drop significantly from there. Completing like 56% of his passes, with more INT than TD. It will be low 20's this weekend.

Maybe you should consider at least an attempt at posting something near the truth from time to time.

Didn't the article say that those cold weather games were during the playoffs with receivers letting accurate balls bounce off their hands, and in to the hands of DBs?

Yes but it is Tical it is not about facts with him only his anti Wilson narrative. He knows full well Kearse let 4-5 ints go through his hands. Also, notice the video had facts Tical mentions numbers but nothing to prove they ar3e anything othet than made up

 

[bigskydoc]

an odd development considering his immense success starring for the Wisconsin Badgers in 2011

Lazy journalism. It would have taken 10 minutes of research to figure out that the coldest game in which Wilson played, while at Wisconsin, was 10/29/2011 at Ohio State. It was 43 degrees at kickoff.

I don't believe cold is a factor for RW, simply because if it was, he could not have put up the numbers as a Wisconsin Badger to advance to the NFL.

See above.

 

[seahawksny]

I don't believe cold is a factor for RW, simply because if it was, he could not have put up the numbers as a Wisconsin Badger to advance to the NFL.

I think it's more of a potential factor for teammates who have never experienced playing in Lambeau. The cold in that area is more difficult, more biting, than say that of Denver. It's a wetter cold and so much more brutal.

Badgers dont play into Mid January. I assume January is colder there than December

 

[seahawksny]

Well, it clearly is Russ' fault that Butterfingers Kearse kept dropping passes that bounced right to a GB defender.
And I'm sure if you looked league wide, QB ratings drop for most QB's when the temps go way down, or heavy rain or snow. Looking forward to Russ and the Hawks beating the Pack in their house, in very cold temps. Only to watch post game stuff and coming on here and hear that he only won because of something that the Pack didn't do. Rock on

Amazing and just astounding that you call him Butterfingers when .......

1) in that game against GB he did catch that last pass
2) In super bowl two weeks later, he put us in the red zone with that inexplicable catch

Come on Soulfish, you are smarter than this. Kearse was great

 

[seahawksny]

Yep, see, I told you Russ can't win in the cold. Because being "right" about something that seems based on an OPINION is way more important than actually seeing your team WIN.
But hey, I've heard something on 710 or 950, come on here and been basically told that what I said wasn't true. I'll trust the guys on the radio over fans who clearly STILL refuse to get behind the best QB and coach this team has ever had. You don't have to like Pete or Russ (though it makes no sense) but why not get behind them, and actually enjoy winning???
8 seasons of things that he "can't" do when clearly he CAN.

Exactly- Do people not remember the coldest game i think this team has ever played? When 10 points was enough to beat Minnesota? We dont win withoug him

 

[bigskydoc]

Amazing and just astounding that you call him Butterfingers when .......

1) in that game against GB he did catch that last pass
2) In super bowl two weeks later, he put us in the red zone with that inexplicable catch

Come on Soulfish, you are smarter than this. Kearse was great

Kearse was a paradoxical player. It is correct that his butterfingers were directly responsible for at least 5 interceptions in 2 games against the Packers (the NFCCG, and the game in GB when Russ threw 5 INTs.)

It is also true that he made some of the most amazing, and even unlikely, catches in the biggest moments.

It's why he was so liked and hated by fans.

Just a frustrating player to put your finger on. Too good in the big moments to let go of. Too bad in the regular game to keep.

His nickname should have been paradox.

 

[John63]

Lol this is hilarious, you got tical who anything bad is Wilson, anything good is everyone else.

The reality is ALL QBs and most WR struggle in bad weather. Harder to throw, harder to catch, harder to hold on to the ball.

 

[Ozzy]

Well, it clearly is Russ' fault that Butterfingers Kearse kept dropping passes that bounced right to a GB defender.
And I'm sure if you looked league wide, QB ratings drop for most QB's when the temps go way down, or heavy rain or snow. Looking forward to Russ and the Hawks beating the Pack in their house, in very cold temps. Only to watch post game stuff and coming on here and hear that he only won because of something that the Pack didn't do. Rock on

Amazing and just astounding that you call him Butterfingers when .......

1) in that game against GB he did catch that last pass
2) In super bowl two weeks later, he put us in the red zone with that inexplicable catch

Come on Soulfish, you are smarter than this. Kearse was great

He also dropped a third down throw that seals the game in the SB. Kearse is probably my least favorite Seahawk. His throwing a fit on the sidelines when Baldwin stole a td from him on accident sealed it. His td against Denver in the SB is one of my favorite plays thought too.

 

[OrangeGravy]

My memories from super frigid games consists of mostly accurate passing from Wilson and uncharacteristically high number of drops from receivers. It was the same story for Hasselbeck, with the Bears playoff game the week after beastquake as the most prominent example of that.

The ball gets hard and slick. It's really difficult to catch any way you try to catch it, hands or cradle. Numb fingers make even more difficult. You have no sensory information (or less detailed info) from your finger tips. That signal from your finger tips telling your brain to tell your hands the ball is there and it's time to squeeze it, is delayed. Fumbles and dropped passes a plenty coming right up.

 

[OrangeGravy]

Amazing and just astounding that you call him Butterfingers when .......

1) in that game against GB he did catch that last pass
2) In super bowl two weeks later, he put us in the red zone with that inexplicable catch

Come on Soulfish, you are smarter than this. Kearse was great

Kearse was a paradoxical player. It is correct that his butterfingers were directly responsible for at least 5 interceptions in 2 games against the Packers (the NFCCG, and the game in GB when Russ threw 5 INTs.)

It is also true that he made some of the most amazing, and even unlikely, catches in the biggest moments.

It's why he was so liked and hated by fans.

Just a frustrating player to put your finger on. Too good in the big moments to let go of. Too bad in the regular game to keep.

His nickname should have been paradox.

He was the exact same player at Washington and UW fans have the same feelings about him. Those type of players are maddening. You can only take so much of it before you cut them loose. If he'd just make the easy catches, we might not have needed him to make the heroic ones.