Sam Darnold, franchise QB!

[JayhawkMike]

I like Darnold. I think he’s an upgrade. I don’t like that they didn’t pick a plan of “go young” or “vets because it’s our year” but went in the middle which rarely works.

 

[Sperrydogg]

Wait, so the OP was being sarcastic? I sure hope not.

Always. And cryptic

 

[GemCity]

Part of the community.

Personally, I like Toffee. If he’s posting some ol bs (which at times, we all do), it’s easy to scroll by.

These boards are educational but they can be entertaining as well.

I don’t know…mods and Aros are really good at maintaining the boards. This is one of the best, if not THE best, team boards. Definitely the best Seahawk board.

Imo…

 

[glenwo2]

There are many factors that affect how well a QB performs, Hawkblogger compares the O-lines but the quality of the receiving corps, the threat of the run game and the inginuity of the OC / HC are some of the other factors that make an impact. He also points out that you should not assess a player on individual games but use as much data as possible but limits himself to one season.

Darnold was a poor starting QB for the Jets and Panthers and couldn't get the starting role with the 49ers. I hope with the Seahawks we see the Vikings numbers rather than those from other teams but it is far from guaranteed.

WTF???

It's the Jets, dude.

You are actually excusing that franchise that can't develop QBs to save their lives???

REALLY?

Panthers weren't any better.

And Sam went to the Niners KNOWING he would be more than likely be backing up Brock Purdy.


You had me until the bolded but this ain't it, Chief.

 

[JayhawkMike]

Part of the community.

Personally, I like Toffee. If he’s posting some ol bs (which at times, we all do), it’s easy to scroll by.

These boards are educational but they can be entertaining as well.

I don’t know…mods and Aros are really good at maintaining the boards. This is one of the best, if not THE best, team boards. Definitely the best Seahawk board.

Imo…


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There is usually more truth in Toffee’s sarcasm than when he is trying to be serious.

 

[chrispy]

Both Geno and Sam have demonstrated they can succeed in the right circumstances. They've also both shown that they can suck really bad and cost games when forced into the wrong circumstances. Is one better than the other...?? To me, that's an irrelevant and unanswerable question. They're different, but both starting caliber NFL QBs.

To me, the Seahawks enter the season with a guy that can win games. Is he going to put the team on his shoulders and carry it, against all odds, through winter storms and uphill battles to win in spite of all probabilities...??? ... likely not. I don't mean that as knock against Sam. Geno's not that guy either. The only QBs like that take 25% of the cap and rarely win it all because of their salary impact. But Sam has shown he can win. To me, it's now on the HC/OC to create situations in which he's able to continue to win, hopefully improve. We didn't have that last year even though we had a QB that had also shown he could win games. Sure Sam has to minimize his mistakes. But the coaches have to out-Coach. The OL has to out-block. The WRs have to out-receive. ...and so-on. If there's a "Savior" of the franchise, it's Mike Macdonald and not Sam Darnold. If MMac can create an offense (including hiring the correct OC) that can maximize the Offensive talent, then the Seahawks win a lot of games. That has to be the case whether it's Geno or Sam Darnold at QB because this franchise is not going to spend Brady/Mahomes/Allen money on a QB anytime in the near future.

 

[GemCity]

There is usually more truth in Toffee’s sarcasm than when he is trying to be serious.

Agreed.

 

[Jegpeg]

And Sam went to the Niners KNOWING he would be more than likely be backing up Brock Purdy.

The 49ers QB situation was a little more complex than that, Lance started 2022 as 1st choice QB dispite disappointing in 2021 but only played 2 games before getting injured, Jimmy Garapollo was back-up but he also got injured and Purdy was 3rd string and did fairly well until he also got injured i nthe Championship game,. At the end of the season Jimmy G left as a free agent.

The 49ers were left with Lance, whole thay had invested a heap of draft capital but had disappointed in year 1 and been injured nearly all year 2 and a guy whose college football was only good enough to be picked last in the draft but had played 8 decent games a the 3rd stringer. Both were injured and might be limited in what they could do pre season and potentially even when the season starts.

It was only during pre season that the pecking order of Purdy, Darnold, Lance was established (Lance played really badly) It was crazy the Cowboys offered a 4th round pick for a 3rd string QB (he was a healthy scratch all year for them).

Having said all that he wasn't expected to start for the 49ers because of what he had done with the Jets and Panthers, we was not able to out-perform Purdy in pre-season and so that expectation came true.

 

[glenwo2]

The 49ers QB situation was a little more complex than that, Lance started 2022 as 1st choice QB dispite disappointing in 2021 but only played 2 games before getting injured, Jimmy Garapollo was back-up but he also got injured and Purdy was 3rd string and did fairly well until he also got injured i nthe Championship game,. At the end of the season Jimmy G left as a free agent.

The 49ers were left with Lance, whole thay had invested a heap of draft capital but had disappointed in year 1 and been injured nearly all year 2 and a guy whose college football was only good enough to be picked last in the draft but had played 8 decent games a the 3rd stringer. Both were injured and might be limited in what they could do pre season and potentially even when the season starts.

It was only during pre season that the pecking order of Purdy, Darnold, Lance was established (Lance played really badly) It was crazy the Cowboys offered a 4th round pick for a 3rd string QB (he was a healthy scratch all year for them).

Having said all that he wasn't expected to start for the 49ers because of what he had done with the Jets and Panthers, we was not able to out-perform Purdy in pre-season and so that expectation came true.

Holy mental gymnastics, Batman!

Sam could've gone to any other crappy team that gave him a better shot at starting but he CHOSE to go to the Niners because he wanted to get the Coaching he never got in NY/CAR.

He knew going into San Fran that his chances at being a starter here were pretty low but that's not why he went there.

He wasn't expected to start because the Niners were already fully-behind Brock Purdy.

Saying he was unable to out-perform Purdy in pre-season is basically implying that Brock's position as Starter was in jeopardy....which it wasn't.

 

[flv2]

As I understand things, (based on the current information available at Spotrac), Darnold is due $37.5M in 2025 - plus additional incentive bonuses, (likely $1.5M). None of the 2026 money guarantees until the 5th day in the post Super Bowl waiver period. The Seahawks will account for $13.4M of Darnold's 2025 money in 2025. If Darnold is released between Jun 1 2025 and Feb 12 2026 the outstanding $24.1M will be accounted for in 2026. If things aren't working out the injury guarantee clause in Darnold's contract would most likely lead to his release between mid-November and mid-December 2025.

I haven't been a Darnold fan but I don't wish bad things for him.

 

[toffee]

Part of the community.

Personally, I like Toffee. If he’s posting some ol bs (which at times, we all do), it’s easy to scroll by.

These boards are educational but they can be entertaining as well.

I don’t know…mods and Aros are really good at maintaining the boards. This is one of the best, if not THE best, team boards. Definitely the best Seahawk board.

Imo…


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I shall work on how to overcome the two-deep safety, and keep cooking for an entire season. I shall make Wilson proud.

 

[JayhawkMike]

I am already looking forward to the Genophiles blasting Darnold when he has a poor game and they just ignore the new OC no Lockett no Metcalf plus rookies part of it. Oh well. Debate is debate. The only ones I block are the posters going after posters instead of players/coaches/GM.

 

[Jegpeg]

I am already looking forward to the Genophiles blasting Darnold when he has a poor game and they just ignore the new OC no Lockett no Metcalf plus rookies part of it. Oh well. Debate is debate. The only ones I block are the posters going after posters instead of players/coaches/GM.

I agree Darnod will be in a different situation than Geno was last year, subject to what happens between now and opening day it does look as if the receiving corps will be worse but I don't get the "just ignore the new OC" part.

Last year we also had a new OC. Grubb had no NFL background and with hindsight his hiring was a mistake so he was fired. I am very much hoping Kubiak is an improvement on Grubb, if he isn't will be replacing him next January but at least MM now has a year behind him coaching both sides of the ball so may be able to give some direction on offence.

 

[WestCoastChippewa]

Geno is old and flat-footed, how many times has he let an OL step on one of his feet?

 

[GemCity]

I agree Darnod will be in a different situation than Geno was last year, subject to what happens between now and opening day it does look as if the receiving corps will be worse but I don't get the "just ignore the new OC" part.

Last year we also had a new OC. Grubb had no NFL background and with hindsight his hiring was a mistake so he was fired. I am very much hoping Kubiak is an improvement on Grubb, if he isn't will be replacing him next January but at least MM now has a year behind him coaching both sides of the ball so may be able to give some direction on offence.

Definitely an improvement. Not knocking Grubb but, he was way in over his head.

 

[MontanaHawk05]

No you don't and your schtick is really old, disingenuous, and way over done. We get it, you are pissed about Geno, you don't like moving on from the old guard. Geno was never loved enough by JS etc etc. Like I said you can join the Raiders board and get some Raiders gear, nothing wrong with that. You love them as coaches and players and thats your right but why stick around here and whine incessantly?

"We get it" is kind of a dead giveaway that you have no actual argument.

 

[Natethegreat]

"We get it" is kind of a dead giveaway that you have no actual argument.

We get it as in he has been beating this dead horse for months now.

 

[flv2]

Darnold may or may not be better than Smith, but this offense needed change. It had become stale.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

I am already looking forward to the Genophiles blasting Darnold when he has a poor game and they just ignore the new OC no Lockett no Metcalf plus rookies part of it. Oh well. Debate is debate. The only ones I block are the posters going after posters instead of players/coaches/GM.

Oh, it's coming. To the point where deep down they probably want him to fail so they can "be right" about Geno.

Sort of sarcasm, but oh man it's coming.

 

[glenwo2]

Oh, it's coming. To the point where deep down they probably want him to fail so they can "be right" about Geno.

Sort of sarcasm, but oh man it's coming.