Milroe showing high level form!

[Sperrydogg]

I think most of us fell in love with Sam and no doubt want him to be our starter for the foreseeable future.

But, it’s a business. At the end of the day, it’s a business. When the time comes, I hope we can re-sign, extend…whatever…at a decent price.

If him and his agent command a top 10 salary, who are you guys willing to sacrifice? We’re talking a high caliber (or two) type player(s).

It’s a huge stretch to say Milroe is ready to be #2…let alone that he’s starting caliber. But, I really like the fact that he has a window to develop and that there is little to no pressure to have him ready in the next couple of seasons.

What are we really missing out on with that 53rd roster spot?

Keep developing him…

We could get another fullback

 

[oldhawkfan]

One of the things I’m really looking forward to in the preseason is how much Milroe has progressed. Just a couple more weeks for some Seahawks football!

 

[glenwo2]

What happens when/if Sam is looking for $50M+ a year? Shits sweet when you are getting a discount.

We pay him. That's what happens.




As far as Milroe goes, I wouldn't mind it at all if he developed into Sam's backup QB.

But whether it's as a backup or as a trade-piece, it's a damn good thing to see him improve as a QB.

 

[FrodosFinger]

Sam will get paid. Schneider knows how to cook the books and retain the core, but they also need to extend Leo and Spoon. Ward got paid now Spoon and then Gonzo. Why wait til next year when the market will be higher

 

[glenwo2]

Sam will get paid. Schneider knows how to cook the books and retain the core, but they also need to extend Leo and Spoon. Ward got paid now Spoon and then Gonzo. Why wait til next year when the market will be higher

Of course. I'm not saying Sam get paid now.

That's a Next-Offseason problem.

Right now, the goal should be to re-sign Spoon and Leo, then get ready to kick some ass.

 

[CPHawk]

I hope he is great in the pre season, and we trade him to move up from 32 to top 5 to get Smith at WR

 

[Sperrydogg]

Sam will get paid. Schneider knows how to cook the books and retain the core, but they also need to extend Leo and Spoon. Ward got paid now Spoon and then Gonzo. Why wait til next year when the market will be higher

Cook the books hahaha

 

[FrodosFinger]

Cook the books hahaha

They all do it. Look at Les Snead

 

[chris98251]

Atlanta may need someone soon, Penix is still not cleared and Tua is already injured with a back problem and they just cut their 3rd string guy.

 

[CPHawk]

Atlanta may need someone soon, Penix is still not cleared and Tua is already injured with a back problem and they just cut their 3rd string guy.

Also both QBs suck

 

[themunn]

Are we salty that we have a developmental QB on the roster? An elite athlete at that?

Taking a spot…I get it. Maybe a better idea to fill that with a 5th string CB.

Sheeshus H…

No, if he isn't a future HoF QB today CUT HIM. That's my expectation from 3rd round pick QBs - the fact that he wasn't Day 1 starter last year shows he's never going to make it

 

[Jac]

I think most of us fell in love with Sam and no doubt want him to be our starter for the foreseeable future.

But, it’s a business. At the end of the day, it’s a business. When the time comes, I hope we can re-sign, extend…whatever…at a decent price.

If him and his agent command a top 10 salary, who are you guys willing to sacrifice? We’re talking a high caliber (or two) type player(s).

It’s a huge stretch to say Milroe is ready to be #2…let alone that he’s starting caliber. But, I really like the fact that he has a window to develop and that there is little to no pressure to have him ready in the next couple of seasons.

What are we really missing out on with that 53rd roster spot?

Keep developing him…

Yep, we have a super human athlete that gets to learn sit back and learn the Shanahan offense for 3-4 years. If he genuinely has taken the next step (and he'll have to start stacking days and show a bit in preseason), then what does he look like NEXT year after another year's work? I don't know that this franchise has ever invested in a developmental QB. That's what smart franchises do. He's either grows into the starter by 2028/29, grows into the backup, serves as a valuable trade piece, or gets cut. I don't get the urgency to jump to the "gets cut".

 

[glenwo2]

He either grows into the starter by 2028/29

Unlikely as I think Sam will be the fully-entrenched (and long-term) starter of this team going forward.

grows into the backup

Best Case Scenario for him.

serves as a valuable trade piece

Best Case Scenario...for JS.

gets cut.

Worst Case Scenario for everyone (and I find this one equally as unlikely to happen).


Bottom Line is that his continued improvement as a QB is the best thing for everyone and I hope it continues.

 

[Jac]

Unlikely as I think Sam will be the fully-entrenched (and long-term) starter of this team going forward.

Agreed that Darnold is entrenched as a top-10 NFL QB for the next 2-3 years. But then you get to 2029, and Milroe is 26. If (and it's still a big if) he truly develops, it becomes a great problem to have.

 

[Ozzy]

I'm a huge Darnold fan and think he is closer to top 5 in the league than the middle of the pack where he is usually ranked but I love having Milroe and seeing stuff like this is a good thing. He's a unicorn. The odds are he won't become an elite guy but I love that the team is developing him and seeing what they have because you never know. This seems like the perfect team to develop under. Great problem to have.

 

[glenwo2]

Agreed that Darnold is entrenched as a top-10 NFL QB for the next 2-3 years. But then you get to 2029, and Milroe is 26. If (and it's still a big if) he truly develops, it becomes a great problem to have.

If JS extends Darnold next offseason, it will probably be for 3 more years (at a high-but-not-too-high number) tacked onto his current deal which would actually make it a 4-year-deal that would take him to 33-years-old.

I guess it also depends on where we're at as far as what Darnold has done or accomplished by then.

But I just...I don't know...I guess I'm way biased but I'd like to see Darnold retire a Seahawk, you know?

I'm sure Sam's had enough of traveling to different teams and would rather stay in one place from now on.

 

[Jac]

If JS extends Darnold next offseason, it will probably be for 3 more years (at a high-but-not-too-high number) tacked onto his current deal which would actually make it a 4-year-deal that would take him to 33-years-old.

I guess it also depends on where we're at as far as what Darnold has done or accomplished by then.

But I just...I don't know...I guess I'm way biased but I'd like to see Darnold retire a Seahawk, you know?

I'm sure Sam's had enough of traveling to different teams and would rather stay in one place from now on.

I want JS to continue building in a way that sustains long-term success. The Price-for-Walker transition is a good example of that. In reality, we have 3 more seasons to evaluate the situation before any decisions need to be made (or 2 if we're looking to trade Milroe).

 

[glenwo2]

I want JS to continue building in a way that sustains long-term success. The Price-for-Walker transition is a good example of that. In reality, we have 3 more seasons to evaluate the situation before any decisions need to be made (or 2 if we're looking to trade Milroe).

I also want JS to continue building that way but to your point, I'm sorry but Price-for-Walker isn’t really comparable to the quarterback situation.

Running backs are replaceable. You can draft a guy like Jadarian Price, plug him in (alongside Charbs when healthy, Wilson, Holani, etc.) and the offense still works. Remember that early on last season, the running attack wasn't all that effective but it was because we kept doing it which forced opposing defenses to have to honor the run against us which enabled our Passing offense to flourish. Because of that, the system and supporting cast did carry a lot of the load.


Quarterback is different. If Darnold keeps playing at a high level, the entire offense and the franchise’s contending window are already built around him. Moving on from a proven top-10 type starter for a developmental guy is a much bigger risk than swapping one productive (though somewhat-injury prone) RB for another.

Milroe’s young and has time, which is great. But stating that we have “3 more years to evaluate” still means you might eventually have to walk away from a high-level QB just because the kid is ready.

That’s a way tougher call than letting Walker walk and drafting his replacement. Letting Walker walk and drafting Price is smart roster management at a replaceable position.

Forcing a QB transition the same way is potentially punching yourself in the face at the most important one.

 

[Jac]

I also want JS to continue building that way but to your point, I'm sorry but Price-for-Walker isn’t really comparable to the quarterback situation.

Running backs are replaceable. You can draft a guy like Jadarian Price, plug him in (alongside Charbs when healthy, Wilson, Holani, etc.) and the offense still works. Remember that early on last season, the running attack wasn't all that effective but it was because we kept doing it which forced opposing defenses to have to honor the run against us which enabled our Passing offense to flourish. Because of that, the system and supporting cast did carry a lot of the load.


Quarterback is different. If Darnold keeps playing at a high level, the entire offense and the franchise’s contending window are already built around him. Moving on from a proven top-10 type starter for a developmental guy is a much bigger risk than swapping one productive (though somewhat-injury prone) RB for another.

Milroe’s young and has time, which is great. But stating that we have “3 more years to evaluate” still means you might eventually have to walk away from a high-level QB just because the kid is ready.

That’s a way tougher call than letting Walker walk and drafting his replacement. Letting Walker walk and drafting Price is smart roster management at a replaceable position.

Forcing a QB transition the same way is potentially punching yourself in the face at the most important one.

Three more years to evaluate means we don't know what's going to happen over the next three years. You're saying that you're ready to commit to Darnold in 2029. I'm saying, let's see what happens.

 

[glenwo2]

Three more years to evaluate means we don't know what's going to happen over the next three years. You're saying that you're ready to commit to Darnold in 2029. I'm saying, let's see what happens.