Use for Milroe going forward

[samwize77]

It seems pretty simple to me. We just don't know what we have in Milroe yet. At least nobody on this board can say conclusively since they are NOT in the building. If the Hawks trade him, they trade him. The only thinking would be value. If he's traded for a late round pick, then we know, theres no value there. And we move on.

If there is something in Milroes future, we hold on to him. At least for now. I'll trust in the organization to evaluate properly as time goes by. EVERYONE that knows anything knows he was a project when drafted. EVERYONE!! so why speculate so soon?

 

[Chukarhawk]

Well exactly - so Milroe now has to learn a pro-style offense, is it any surprise that he's not day 1 starter ready? Darnold DID run a pro-style offense and it took him 7 seasons to look like he was a capable starter.

It's so bizarre to have such disappointment in a third-string project QB who didn't play his rookie season, in a year where the starter didn't miss a game, and the team won the superbowl. I mean what are you expecting from the guy?

I'm expecting him to be out of the league in 3 years because the list of college game managers that were successful in the NFL is almost zero. His ceiling is a gadget guy.

 

[Seahawker]

I like Jalen Milroe a lot and said well before the draft we should take him in the third round, apparently John agreed. I would much rather have Milroe than his former teammate Bryce Young, the 1st overall pick in the 2023 draft.

Terry Bradshaw 1970. Had a 38% completion rate and 24 interceptions.

Troy Aikman 1989. Went 0-11 as a starter with 9 TD & 18 INT in his rookie season.

Peyton Manning 1998. Led the league in interceptions (28) as a rookie.

Alex Smith 2005. Posted a 40.8 passer rating with 1 TD and 11 INTs in 9 games.

Mathew Stafford 2009. Shaky debut with 3 picks.

John Elway1983. Top pick struggled finishing rookie season 7 TD, 12 INT.

Other QB's that struggled early. Fran Tarkenton, Steve Young, Jared Goff, Josh Allen, Eli Manning, Dan Fouts and Brett Favre (Ask Holmgren).

Some of the best rookie QB starts.
Cam Newton 2011
Ben Roethlisberger 2004
Russell Wilson 2012
Dak Prescott 2016
Dan Marino 1983
Robert Griffin lll 2012
CJ Stroud 2023
Jayden Daniels 2024

I think some of you should go back and read JM's scouting reports to understand why he is such a good bet to invest in. No one has a crystal ball but we know Jalen and the coaching staff continue to work hard on his improvement.

This is just for fun and has zero credibility but I see his chances something like:

33% somewhere between top backup to average starter.

33% Bust.

33% top 15 QB for a decade who's skills become the force we hoped for.

I like the odds, whatever they are.
We'll see in the preseason.

 

[IndyHawk]

Well exactly - so Milroe now has to learn a pro-style offense, is it any surprise that he's not day 1 starter ready? Darnold DID run a pro-style offense and it took him 7 seasons to look like he was a capable starter.

It's so bizarre to have such disappointment in a third-string project QB who didn't play his rookie season, in a year where the starter didn't miss a game, and the team won the superbowl. I mean what are you expecting from the guy?

I'm expecting a draft pick from him in 2 weeks.

 

[IndyHawk]

I like Jalen Milroe a lot and said well before the draft we should take him in the third round, apparently John agreed. I would much rather have Milroe than his former teammate Bryce Young, the 1st overall pick in the 2023 draft.

Terry Bradshaw 1970. Had a 38% completion rate and 24 interceptions.

Troy Aikman 1989. Went 0-11 as a starter with 9 TD & 18 INT in his rookie season.

Peyton Manning 1998. Led the league in interceptions (28) as a rookie.

Alex Smith 2005. Posted a 40.8 passer rating with 1 TD and 11 INTs in 9 games.

Mathew Stafford 2009. Shaky debut with 3 picks.

John Elway1983. Top pick struggled finishing rookie season 7 TD, 12 INT.

Other QB's that struggled early. Fran Tarkenton, Steve Young, Jared Goff, Josh Allen, Eli Manning, Dan Fouts and Brett Favre (Ask Holmgren).

Some of the best rookie QB starts.
Cam Newton 2011
Ben Roethlisberger 2004
Russell Wilson 2012
Dak Prescott 2016
Dan Marino 1983
Robert Griffin lll 2012
CJ Stroud 2023
Jayden Daniels 2024

I think some of you should go back and read JM's scouting reports to understand why he is such a good bet to invest in. No one has a crystal ball but we know Jalen and the coaching staff continue to work hard on his improvement.

This is just for fun and has zero credibility but I see his chances something like:

33% somewhere between top backup to average starter.

33% Bust.

33% top 15 QB for a decade who's skills become the force we hoped for.

I like the odds, whatever they are.
We'll see in the preseason.

A lot of those QBs you listed that struggled, did so in a different
era when the rules didn't pamper them, in other words they got hit
and had to learn how to read and process fast or get killed, if you
ran, you did so at your own risk, it forced one to either learn to be a
QB or get a different job, you didn't get many years to prove yourself.

 

[HagFaithful]

I've quantified what I want to see from Milroe in the Pre Season:
-completion percentage greater than 69%
-Throw for 2 TDs
-Lead more than 2 TD drives

 

[AnimeAmore]

I'm expecting a draft pick from him in 2 weeks.

Yep.
So many people here are focused on all the wrong things.

"Here's some QBs who struggled"
"He's only been in the league a year"
"We need to see what we've got."

No. There isn't a place for him on the team. It doesn't mean he doesn't have potential. It doesn't mean he can't develop into a starter. All it means is that there isn't a roster spot for him with the team trying to repeat. It is *purely* situational. It has nothing (or almost nothing) to do with the few plays he ran last season. That isn't why he will be traded. There is simply no spot on the team for him. It's about the numbers. The Hawks don't have a spot to use on a developmental QB anymore. Simple as.

 

[SNDavidson]

Milroe is under construction, he was drafted because he's a freak, he will develop. I would give him 2 more years to earn the backup spot, and keep him on the squad as the backup unless he pushes for a starting role somehow. I hope we feel comfortable enough with him to run a few packages with him next year, he really can house it from anywhere on the field you have to use that. I just don't think Sam is going anywhere, but what we have in Jalen is a supercar under construction. This is called sweat equity. We'll get value back one way or the other and we knew it would develop like this. He's a high character dude and hard worker with outstanding gifts, not sure why anyone is making a Milroe thread now, he's somewhere getting better, we'll hear about him when he earns some playing time. All that to say, getting rid of him now is the absolute worst choice at the worst time and nullifies the draft pick, it makes no sense whatsoever.

 

[SNDavidson]

 

[Seahawker]

John took Milroe in the 3rd round of one of his best ever drafts, one of which two rookies played a big part of us winning the SB.
Milroe wasn't entirely picked as a high upside project, he was picked because he was the best player on their board. We were only carrying two QB's for longer than anyone can remember and then boom!, John drafts another Wilson/Flynn deal with reverse outcomes.

It will be interesting to see if a draft day trade drops us back to two QB's and which it might be. That decision will 100% be about who gives us a chance to win if Darnold goes down now that we are in SB contention.
Lock has some starter experience, can throw the ball around and almost surely hasn't reached his peak yet.
Milroe is lightning in a bottle and has the potential to put rare stress on a defense.

It would be a shame not to get to see Milroe's big accurate arm throwing deep to Shaheed/Horton one play and gashing for twenty yard runs on the next.
I get the extra roster spot, but I like our three QB's, our SB window could be short and it's good insurance against a Darnold injury derailing the season.
Like Davidson said above, the kid is a high character, hard working, rare physical specimen who could be a super star.
I'm not going to let one bad preseason game prevent me from having hope for that.

 

[chris98251]

I think people are bored waiting for some breaking news, most were on board about getting him as a project guy knowing we had Darnold and Lock in the fold and he could develop, his value isn't now, its a couple years out still, whether as our guy or possibly someone else's like Brunell and Hass were for Greenbay. Milroe is Love, Rodgers if he pans out.

No patience, if you pull the cake out of the oven early it doesn't have good results and you end up throwing it out and starting over.

 

[SeahawksBMX]

You never know about the Browns. Don't always seem to be the sharpest traders in the tool shed.

I thought I was over it, but you just ripped the scab off.

 

[Dallashawksfan]

I agreed trade him for a pick or two to address other areas

Darnold is the man , no room for Milroe

 

[Kamcussionator]

I've quantified what I want to see from Milroe in the Pre Season:
-completion percentage greater than 69%
-Throw for 2 TDs
-Lead more than 2 TD drives

I like this mindset.

I'd like to see his footwork come back solid this year. He improved dramatically between the draft and preseason last year, but when pressured, he fell back into his bad habits which affects his accuracy. You could see the game was too fast for him at times too, which will improve with experience.

If Milroe can show stability in the preseason, that makes Lock available for trade. We could get something for Lock. Milroe has no trade value.

Sam's void years start in 2028, coincidentally when Milroe's rookie contract comes up and we have to make a decision. Ideally, he improves to be a capable starter by then, and we can extend him at a backup rate. Then if negotiations with Sam don't go our way in 2029 we can trade him and still have a starting QB (Milroe) on a discount contract for a couple years.

 

[toffee]

Two paths:

1. Franchise QB for Hawks if Darnold is tired of winning.
2. Trade to a struggling team for a 1st and two 2nd.