What is your expectation for the Seahawks

[Sgt. Largent]

With how difficult our remaining schedule is? I'd say we're on track to do what we did last year, 10-6, WC and then go on the road and lose in the first round.

Which would be a disappointing season for me. After all the turnover, draft picks and additions like Ansah and Clowney I expected us to compete for the NFC West title. Now I wasn't expecting the Niners to be 6-0 either, so that put a kink in competing for the West all the way towards the end with the Rams.

As of now with how mediocre our defense and special teams is, I can't objectively place my expectations any further than this.

 

[Chapow]

For those of you that answered something like, "I'm just focused on the next game":

Why? Are you on the team, so you're studying Atlanta's film, etc.; or is it just superstition? Not criticizing, just wondering... I have strange quirks too.

I'm pretty sure fans focusing on the next game has no effect on the outcome, much like how I throw darts before the game so that they all end up on 12 has no effect.

For those of you that just made up a narrative in your head that nobody said and ran with it, why?

No one said, "I'm just focused on the next game".

I said my expectation for the Seahawks is that they will be 6-2 after this Sunday and that I wasn't concerned with anything else regarding the Seahawks other than the game this Sunday.

It was a really short post. No idea how you could have taken something totally different out of it than what was posted. Might want to work on that reading comprehension.

 

[Mad Dog]

I have no expectations, only hopes. NFL is too volatile a league to have much in the way of expectations. Teams routinely go "worst to first" and "first to worst". I guess if I was a Patriots fan I could have some expectations. But setting expectations for something you have absolutely no control over likely is a good way to frustrate yourself.

Anyways, my hopes for the team are that they go 11-5 and compete for the division. I would be sad if we didn't at least make the playoff dance.

And I will offer one expectation. I expect to attend every home game from here on out and yell my ass off. As a 12, that's really my only reasonable expectation.

 

[chris98251]

My expectation is to find the pieces we need to make a true push going forward, the assembly was still happening this season and may keep going to get it right. Wins are cool but a team built to rise and take ownership of the division is still a work in process.

We have yet to have that moment we can identify with as the team gets it and makes a step up.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Chapow makes a good point. We don't play for the team. If we decide to just think about Sunday, cool. It has no impact on the game, just look thinking long term doesn't. We all cope with losses in our own way. For me, I prefer to get over a loss and just change my thoughts to the next one. Denial helps, and that's MY way that's all. We have no control over what happens on the field.
But the question was with the expectations. I still see a 10-6 team that can win a playoff game, but are capable of more IF they continue to improve, and stay healthy of course.
Expectations? One playoff win, and I expect them to be a contender next year. But I'm just a homer so...... :?

 

[LTH]

Chapow makes a good point. We don't play for the team. If we decide to just think about Sunday, cool. It has no impact on the game, just look thinking long term doesn't. We all cope with losses in our own way. For me, I prefer to get over a loss and just change my thoughts to the next one. Denial helps, and that's MY way that's all. We have no control over what happens on the field.
But the question was with the expectations. I still see a 10-6 team that can win a playoff game, but are capable of more IF they continue to improve, and stay healthy of course.
Expectations? One playoff win, and I expect them to be a contender next year. But I'm just a homer so...... :?

Dude You are NOT a homer...Some of the guys on here like to get into stats and this analysis that makes for a good discussion but sometimes its way over the top in the big picture... Carroll coached teams are not based on stats... Stats are an indicator of what's happening but they rarely tell the whole story... The Seahawk D for example has some young players on it and the stats say that this D is not very good. Right now Wilson and the O are picking up some slack but the stats dont tell the whole story. The stats dont see that young players are growing into their roles and FA are learning to gel with the scheme and learning to play together as a unit... They are learning to trust one another and learning to communicate... It's a progression of momentum and learning together to create the desired product that is not going to happen over night and sometimes it doesn't happen which means they need to find new players. But it's way too early to make that determination... some people here are NOT Patient and have a hard time getting over emotional losses because Losses are sometimes hard and they dont really understand the process as a whole..

LTH

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Thx. I expect yet another ugly win on Sunday, with a lot of different emotions throughout. Especially early in the game. But I'll embrace the ugly if needed, even if it drives me to drinking. Would I LOVE to see them just knock the crap out of a team from the get and win by 17 like they did at Zona? Absolutely.
That just isn't the style of this team, even if it should be at times. Coming up on November, this team seems to almost always hit it's stride. Hopefully it's no different this year. Now if they win on Sunday and next Sunday and are sitting at 7-2? Not only will I take it, but my confidence will grow. So much is put on WHO a team beats over record. Unless you're the Niners and you have had a cake schedule, but that somehow makes you a Super Bowl Champ in the making :lol:

 

[jammerhawk]

Let's not get into I'm a better fan nonsense LTH. We are all fans of the team and 'homers' if we post here save for the obvious fans of other teams. The degree of one's homerism is irrelevant and the 'you are not a homer' comment is ad hominem argument which is unrelated to the thread and just creates pissy responses. We do all respond differently to wins and losses and around here there is a broad cross section of viewpoint with both. Losing always sucks, but a win is a win ugly or not.

My expectation in response to the thread is a hopeful 11-5 and at least to the divisional round of the playoffs. Who knows after that? I think the team is young there is some youthful talent on the team and with some luck the team could advance further than a few negative folks around here think. This team is better than many acknowledge and historically get better as the season progresses so i'm optimistic for that reason.

It's easy to complain when the team is not winning every game 43-8 or thereabouts, however imagine being a fan of the Giants or the Browns or some other sad sack team. 5-2 is a good record with only 1 conference L after 7 games. The road record this season is good, and the areas of the team clearly needing improvement are fewer than last season. I'm seeing progress along with some real concerns in a few areas.

I'd like to see the the D tackle better, get a stronger pass rush, create defensive stops, while getting a few turnovers. Offensively I want to see better pass protection and a continuing strong run attack. and Until that all happens consistently I expect my hoped for results might be slightly optimistic. Time will tell, but that's why we are fans.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Well said, we all (I think) love the Hawks. Even if they drive us crazy sometimes. All part of the rollercoaster that is a young team hopefully on the rise. Which I think they are, obviously still a lot of work to be done.

 

[Northwest Seahawk]

My concern is the defense . We aren't getting any pass rush we are near or at the bottom in sack totals right now. We have a secondary that has no one special emerging maybe Blair but we haven't seen it yet. Flowers and Griffin are good but not great..

Our LB's are aging and i'm not sold on any of the rookie's drafted being anything but a step down from what we have now, Bobby KJ and Kendricks

The O-line has issues and needs upgraded.

The FO needs to find a legit slot WR. We don't have one right now.

The FO needs to find a legit slot corner. Maybe diggs but then who plays FS in nickel alignment.

The defensive line on paper is great but on the field were just not seeing it . I expect that to change some now that Reed is back. If we struggle all year getting a pass rush well the Seahawks are in trouble against good teams.

As for the future well the 1st round trade down trade down then reach cycle over the last three or four years has to stop. They have to be better in the first round or it's time for a new GM.

This is a reasoned realistic view and my analysis of the Seahawks right now. The situation is fluid however and this is a somewhat critical view though imo fair. We'll see how things develop as the season goes on hopefully the defense gets better .

 

[LTH]

My concern is the defense . We aren't getting any pass rush we are near or at the bottom in sack totals right now. We have a secondary that has no one special emerging maybe Blair but we haven't seen it yet. Flowers and Griffin are good but not great.

Our LB's are aging and i'm not sold on any of the rookie's drafted being anything but a step down from what we have now, Bobby KJ and Kendricks

The O-line has issues and needs upgraded.

The FO needs to find a legit slot WR. We don't have one right now.

The FO needs to find a legit slot corner. Maybe diggs but then who plays FS in nickel alignment.

The defensive line on paper is great but on the field were just not seeing it . I expect that to change some now that Reed is back. If we struggle all year getting a pass rush well the Seahawks are in trouble against good teams.

As for the future well the 1st round trade down trade down then reach cycle over the last three or four years has to stop. They have to be better in the first round or it's time for a new GM.

This is a reasoned realistic view and my analysis of the Seahawks right now. The situation is fluid however and this is a somewhat critical view though imo fair. We'll see how things develop as the season goes on hopefully the defense gets better .

And I rest my case.

LTH

 

[chris98251]

My concern is the defense . We aren't getting any pass rush we are near or at the bottom in sack totals right now. We have a secondary that has no one special emerging maybe Blair but we haven't seen it yet. Flowers and Griffin are good but not great.

Our LB's are aging and i'm not sold on any of the rookie's drafted being anything but a step down from what we have now, Bobby KJ and Kendricks

The O-line has issues and needs upgraded.

The FO needs to find a legit slot WR. We don't have one right now.

The FO needs to find a legit slot corner. Maybe diggs but then who plays FS in nickel alignment.

The defensive line on paper is great but on the field were just not seeing it . I expect that to change some now that Reed is back. If we struggle all year getting a pass rush well the Seahawks are in trouble against good teams.

As for the future well the 1st round trade down trade down then reach cycle over the last three or four years has to stop. They have to be better in the first round or it's time for a new GM.

This is a reasoned realistic view and my analysis of the Seahawks right now. The situation is fluid however and this is a somewhat critical view though imo fair. We'll see how things develop as the season goes on hopefully the defense gets better .

O line injuries. Although it has given Jones a chance to get experience and shine and Evans is coming off IR and now able to practice, we need the younger guys just to solidify their positions as starters.

We have Slot guys, Lockett or others that have not seen the field yet, Locket is in top 20 in receptions and yards in a run first offense so he's not legitimate and Ursua is his back up as a true slot guy, so you bench Locket ?

Nickel is a work in process but Taylor did look a lot better there last week.

 

[LTH]

My concern is the defense . We aren't getting any pass rush we are near or at the bottom in sack totals right now. We have a secondary that has no one special emerging maybe Blair but we haven't seen it yet. Flowers and Griffin are good but not great.

Our LB's are aging and i'm not sold on any of the rookie's drafted being anything but a step down from what we have now, Bobby KJ and Kendricks

The O-line has issues and needs upgraded.

The FO needs to find a legit slot WR. We don't have one right now.

The FO needs to find a legit slot corner. Maybe diggs but then who plays FS in nickel alignment.

The defensive line on paper is great but on the field were just not seeing it . I expect that to change some now that Reed is back. If we struggle all year getting a pass rush well the Seahawks are in trouble against good teams.

As for the future well the 1st round trade down trade down then reach cycle over the last three or four years has to stop. They have to be better in the first round or it's time for a new GM.

This is a reasoned realistic view and my analysis of the Seahawks right now. The situation is fluid however and this is a somewhat critical view though imo fair. We'll see how things develop as the season goes on hopefully the defense gets better .

O line injuries. Although it has given Jones a chance to get experience and shine and Evans is coming off IR and now able to practice, we need the younger guys just to solidify their positions as starters.

We have Slot guys, Lockett or others that have not seen the field yet, Locket is in top 20 in receptions and yards in a run first offense so he's not legitimate and Ursua is his back up as a true slot guy, so you bench Locket ?

Nickel is a work in process but Taylor did look a lot better there last week.

Great points! Locket is a great example of how Stat's dont necessarily tell the whole story to how good a player is or if he is under performing or not? I would even bring up Wilson...

LTH

 

[BirdsCommaAngry]

Right now, I expect us to finish 5-11 with all my favorite players first being suspended 4-6 games for PED use before being suspended indefinitely for having committed violent crimes against women and children. If we can do better than that, then I will bask in the pleasure of any of the ways the season has exceeded my expectations.

 

[kidhawk]

My expectation is what it is every year under Pete Carroll and Russell Wilson and that is to make the playoffs. From there, anything can happen. I don't know if they will end up with the 1 or 2 seed (that would be lovely) but I do expect them to be in the post season. Hopefully 49ers can come down to earth and we can win the division this year and hopefully wind up with a bye.

Tired of going on the road and losing in the divisional round. So I guess for me this year, with Russ on pace for his first MVP season, is to be nothing short of being in the NFC Championship game.

I can agree with all this, but most of this is (at least for me) more hope than expectation. I do expect the playoffs as you said, but after that, I don't see us going very far. Perhaps a win week 1 and then losing in the 2nd week of the playoffs would be my "expectation". Of course, that doesn't change the fact that I do believe in the mantra anything can happen, and I will watch the games with the thought that we can win each and every week until we are officially out of the playoffs or win the Super bowl.

 

[hawkfan68]

I expect contending for championships each year. So at the bare minimum playoffs. I'm still salty by the way they lost to Dallas last season in the playoffs so they need to do better than that for me this season. This isn't the Ms mode here. That is for losers. Franchises that are in perpetual mode of losing. That doesn't fly with me as a fan. I'm grateful that JS/PC don't have that Jerry DiPoto mindset as well.

 

[LTH]

Let's not get into I'm a better fan nonsense LTH. We are all fans of the team and 'homers' if we post here save for the obvious fans of other teams. The degree of one's homerism is irrelevant and the 'you are not a homer' comment is ad hominem argument which is unrelated to the thread and just creates pissy responses. We do all respond differently to wins and losses and around here there is a broad cross section of viewpoint with both. Losing always sucks, but a win is a win ugly or not.

My expectation in response to the thread is a hopeful 11-5 and at least to the divisional round of the playoffs. Who knows after that? I think the team is young there is some youthful talent on the team and with some luck the team could advance further than a few negative folks around here think. This team is better than many acknowledge and historically get better as the season progresses so i'm optimistic for that reason.

It's easy to complain when the team is not winning every game 43-8 or thereabouts, however imagine being a fan of the Giants or the Browns or some other sad sack team. 5-2 is a good record with only 1 conference L after 7 games. The road record this season is good, and the areas of the team clearly needing improvement are fewer than last season. I'm seeing progress along with some real concerns in a few areas.

I'd like to see the the D tackle better, get a stronger pass rush, create defensive stops, while getting a few turnovers. Offensively I want to see better pass protection and a continuing strong run attack. and Until that all happens consistently I expect my hoped for results might be slightly optimistic. Time will tell, but that's why we are fans.

Look dude there is no need for people to call people names because they have an opinion...Not sure what your talking about a better fan nonsense as I dont think im better than anyone else... Not sure how your relating your post to me... as far as pissy posts are concerned this board is full of them and I certainly dont create that... in fact it irritates me to have to read it... My posts are mostly optimistic and occasionally I make a post explaining my view of the process because there is Soooo much negativity on this board it's almost unbearable. so I offer some insight into my view of the process so maybe the losses wont be so hard for some folks... You dont like it? not sure what to tell ya!


LTH

 

[LTH]

Ya know what Ill save ya the trouble Jammerhawk... You dont like my contribution Ill leave this board sucks anyways... Bye!

 

[AgentDib]

We are missing way too many pieces and if not for RW would be sitting on a much lower record.

Not to pick on this exact post but I honestly don't understand this oddly widespread viewpoint. You know, the 49ers had a good run in the 80's but they would have had a much worse record without Joe Montana and Steve Young. The Patriots may have won six Super Bowls but they would be worse without Tom Brady. The Colts won the Super Bowl in 2006 but we saw first hand that they weren't very good without Peyton Manning. Breaking news: franchise QBs are important to their teams.

The Hawks have a franchise QB in Russ and have spent quite a lot of resources on him. If you read this SI article, which appears completely true with the benefit of hindsight, Pete essentially sided with Russ over key LOB members. It's not some accident that Russ is our QB now or that teams with a top QB have holes elsewhere. He isn't doing us a favor to grace the team, it's a mutually advantageous partnership where we pay Russ top dollar because we count on him winning games for us.

 

[MORGULON]

For those of you that answered something like, "I'm just focused on the next game":

Why? Are you on the team, so you're studying Atlanta's film, etc.; or is it just superstition? Not criticizing, just wondering... I have strange quirks too.

I'm pretty sure fans focusing on the next game has no effect on the outcome, much like how I throw darts before the game so that they all end up on 12 has no effect.

My guess is that they're saying they dont want to look past the present. No sense worrying about something we have absolutely no control over.

I also wonder when fans on here talk about trades and contracts as if they have a John Schneiders phone number.