SoulfishHawk
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But wait, Miller is in his 30's. OMG, he better get his AARP card soon :irishdrinkers:
Largent80":vs0afpus said:OK, he's older now, not with the Rams so your point is?...he's going to keep doing it?....Chances are small. He simply doesn't have the measurables for us to invest.
Seanhawk":ti5qa4q2 said:Largent80":ti5qa4q2 said:OK, he's older now, not with the Rams so your point is?...he's going to keep doing it?....Chances are small. He simply doesn't have the measurables for us to invest.
My point is he is a lot younger than I thought.
Seymour":lpfhlrlz said:I would take a $12M Quinn over a $21M Clowney any day!!
Seymour":1jvhztzu said:I would take a $12M Quinn over a $21M Clowney any day!!
xray":tf9f5pf9 said:Seymour":tf9f5pf9 said:I would take a $12M Quinn over a $21M Clowney any day!!
I would take Quinn over Clowney for any amount .
toffee":38erl3ta said:Seymour":38erl3ta said:I would take a $12M Quinn over a $21M Clowney any day!!
would you still take a $12m Quinn over a $12m Clowney? Not that Clowney will accept a $12m contract, but would you still prefer Quinn over Clowney?
massari":168esqnu said:How many sacks do you guys think Clowney gets playing with Demarcus Lawrence? It would be his first time playing alongside elite talent in a 4-3.
Like Ngakoue, Quinn is a liability against the run.
He barely played with Watt and Mercilus in his current form, but when he did it was 9 sacks.getnasty":1kwqb224 said:How many did he get playing with JJ Watt and Whitney Mericlus? Sure he's great agaisnt the run, sure he's commands some double teams but at 20 million a year you better get after the quarterback.
Lawrence and Clark had 13 sacks combined last season. People need to quit saying 20 million is only Donald/Mack money when the cap is going up every year and 20m will be a bargain soon enough.getnasty":1kwqb224 said:Also people need to quit saying how many sack would he get if he played with Demaracus Lawrence? How many sacks do you think he would get if he play with Aaron Donald? Clowney is going to be pay like Lawrence and Donald not the guy playing across from him.
That's true... but... if he is traded, Denver eats $11.75M in dead money and the team to which he is traded has Von under contract for the next two years at $18.0M per year... a VERY reasonable salary for a player with his production.bmorepunk":cchtx45k said:Largent80":cchtx45k said:SoulfishHawk":cchtx45k said:Von Miller still has plenty left in the tank, good call.
We could get him for a second rounder me thinks.
He's a $25.625 million cap hit this coming season.
massari":fzu0u2kz said:He barely played with Watt and Mercilus in his current form, but when he did it was 9 sacks.getnasty":fzu0u2kz said:How many did he get playing with JJ Watt and Whitney Mericlus? Sure he's great agaisnt the run, sure he's commands some double teams but at 20 million a year you better get after the quarterback.
Someone mentioned they'd take Quinn over Clowney at the same price. The point was if they switched circumstances, it would likely only help Clowney. So that might bridge the gap more when it comes to sack totals.
Lawrence and Clark had 13 sacks combined last season. People need to quit saying 20 million is only Donald/Mack money when the cap is going up every year and 20m will be a bargain soon enough.getnasty":fzu0u2kz said:Also people need to quit saying how many sack would he get if he played with Demaracus Lawrence? How many sacks do you think he would get if he play with Aaron Donald? Clowney is going to be pay like Lawrence and Donald not the guy playing across from him.
Yes sir I wouldtoffee":dcsnylsh said:Seymour":dcsnylsh said:I would take a $12M Quinn over a $21M Clowney any day!!
would you still take a $12m Quinn over a $12m Clowney? Not that Clowney will accept a $12m contract, but would you still prefer Quinn over Clowney?
getnasty":1h6a114p said:massari":1h6a114p said:He barely played with Watt and Mercilus in his current form, but when he did it was 9 sacks.getnasty":1h6a114p said:How many did he get playing with JJ Watt and Whitney Mericlus? Sure he's great agaisnt the run, sure he's commands some double teams but at 20 million a year you better get after the quarterback.
Someone mentioned they'd take Quinn over Clowney at the same price. The point was if they switched circumstances, it would likely only help Clowney. So that might bridge the gap more when it comes to sack totals.
Lawrence and Clark had 13 sacks combined last season. People need to quit saying 20 million is only Donald/Mack money when the cap is going up every year and 20m will be a bargain soon enough.getnasty":1h6a114p said:Also people need to quit saying how many sack would he get if he played with Demaracus Lawrence? How many sacks do you think he would get if he play with Aaron Donald? Clowney is going to be pay like Lawrence and Donald not the guy playing across from him.
My point is if your gonna be paid like a top ten DE you need to either be a sack machine(15 plus) or be elite at the run and still get after the quarterback(8-10) i'm not saying that can't be Clowney so please don't mistake that. My concern is in a contract year it wasn't him. If he can play anything like he did at SF i'm paying him, he just didn't show that consistently. I also am not the one saying i would take Quinn over Clowney at the same price, i am saying i'll take Quinn and Shaq Lawson at the same price though.