It's time to overhaul the offensive coaching staff

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Well beyond time at this point, been wanting it for a few years but today it's abundantly clear after another 0 points at half time there is more problems than just "not executing."

Routes that have 2 players in the same spot, really only calling deep routes for most of the game (season), zero rhythm.

Go out and get a young creative mind like McVay, he's fundamentally changed their offense in just one year.
 

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I expect no big changes. It is not Pete's style.

Aging roster, loss of lots of draft capital, serious cap issues....the question is, does Pete keep going?
 

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With the amount of injuries on defense at least they have an excuse. The offense doesn't have the same excuse. It's ridiculous watching these primetime players being garbage. Pay a guy 10 million to drop passes and not make a difference.
 

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The problem was not the defense.

The defense was doing its job, even though racked with injuries and being forced with short fields - they forced FGs unless they were forced to play D from the 1.

The MULTIPLE 3 and outs was the problem.

We no longer have the defense to just force the opposing team to be held to 3 or 7 by the half, there needs to be production by the offense and there wasn't.

Probably just as well though, for the past several years - any games we play, even at home, for the chance to lock up the division or give us the advantage for the division...we drop. Remember this last year?

We don't win the important games for the division, in many instances we look like we don't even really come into them with a sense of urgency. It is the games for the wildcard that we suddenly go all out to win. I quit caring about why by now, I just accept it.
 

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The fans have known about the problems for years but Pete either doesn't know or just doesn't care.

Hopefully Paul Allen cares. If Pete is unwilling to make a change, he needs to go.
 

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They can also get rid of Richard. Talent was covering how awful he is at being a D coordinator.
 

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It's not just the offensive coaching staff. Richard just relies on the talent he has to work with. Pete holds nobody accountable. Nobody is hungry anymore as was shown today. Mr. Allen needs to make a change.
 

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Both coordinators need to go, Bevells been glaring for years but he has been overshadowed in the ineptitude department by Richard. At least Richard has the excuse of injuries tho it still doesn't account how the defense didn't even look college level by the end, they were a complete and utter mess who couldn't even handle the fundamentals
 

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flmmkrz":gv9e0qqq said:
Both coordinators need to go, Bevells been glaring for years but he has been overshadowed in the ineptitude department by Richard. At least Richard has the excuse of injuries tho it still doesn't account how the defense didn't even look college level by the end, they were a complete and utter mess who couldn't even handle the fundamentals
DB should have been relieved of duty 5 minutes after XLIX.
 

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Sincere question: Are some of you that shortsighted that offense is all you can look at? Appears that way to me. If you don't get the game, I understand, but there was a hell of a lot more going on in this loss than an offensive gameplan.
 

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Siouxhawk":1pudwda8 said:
Sincere question: Are some of you that shortsighted that offense is all you can look at? Appears that way to me. If you don't get the game, I understand, but there was a hell of a lot more going on in this loss than an offensive gameplan.

Here comes Sioux to defend his man-crush!
 
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Siouxhawk":33ys5u8r said:
Sincere question: Are some of you that shortsighted that offense is all you can look at? Appears that way to me. If you don't get the game, I understand, but there was a hell of a lot more going on in this loss than an offensive gameplan.

"If you don't get the game". Okay, good point I forgot you are an offensive genius with endless knowledge.

Another 0 points at half time in a 34-0 blowout. We knew defense would struggle with all the injuries to pro bowlers, offense has no excuse.

But yeah figured you'd show up.
 

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mistaowen":uwhjgqnr said:
Siouxhawk":uwhjgqnr said:
Sincere question: Are some of you that shortsighted that offense is all you can look at? Appears that way to me. If you don't get the game, I understand, but there was a hell of a lot more going on in this loss than an offensive gameplan.

"If you don't get the game". Okay, good point I forgot you are an offensive genius with endless knowledge.

Another 0 points at half time in a 34-0 blowout. We knew defense would struggle with all the injuries to pro bowlers, offense has no excuse.

But yeah figured you'd show up.
As usual, you gloss over the particulars as why that would happen and target a scapegoat. That's the complexity part.
 

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Siouxhawk":10n0q0fj said:
Sincere question: Are some of you that shortsighted that offense is all you can look at? Appears that way to me. If you don't get the game, I understand, but there was a hell of a lot more going on in this loss than an offensive gameplan.

Did you actually say that those of us who have went into specifics and even individual plays and how to correct them are the ones that "don't get the game".

This is priceless.

What is absolutely mindboggling is you can watch this game and still say we are fine and headed for the playoffs.

I'm worried about your mental state Sioux, I care about your wellbeing and think you should seek out a professional to identify the cause of these episodes.

Be well.
 
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Siouxhawk":1di26v7i said:
mistaowen":1di26v7i said:
Siouxhawk":1di26v7i said:
Sincere question: Are some of you that shortsighted that offense is all you can look at? Appears that way to me. If you don't get the game, I understand, but there was a hell of a lot more going on in this loss than an offensive gameplan.

"If you don't get the game". Okay, good point I forgot you are an offensive genius with endless knowledge.

Another 0 points at half time in a 34-0 blowout. We knew defense would struggle with all the injuries to pro bowlers, offense has no excuse.

But yeah figured you'd show up.
As usual, you gloss over the particulars as why that would happen and target a scapegoat. That's the complexity part.

I know this is your game and you get enjoyment out of trolling this board being a huge Bevell defender, but here's what happened.

At one point, there was 24 pass attempts for 25 yards. The offense was averaging 1.6 yards per play well into the 3rd quarter. Defense started with the ball on their side of the field 4/5 first drives. Offense could not sustain a single drive the entire first half until it was a 34-0 blowout and the game was over. Depleted defense with reserves playing at big positions meant this would be a shoot out and the offense needed to show up. They didn't. The offense leads the league in 0 point first halves. There are fundamental issues, you can wave your hands and blame execution all you want - this is a pattern, not a rarity.

Unless Russell is running for 30 yards behind the line of scrimmage and hitting an open receiver 15 seconds after the snap, they can't move the ball.
 

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Siouxhawk":1bti6eqc said:
Sincere question: Are some of you that shortsighted that offense is all you can look at? Appears that way to me. If you don't get the game, I understand, but there was a hell of a lot more going on in this loss than an offensive gameplan.

Todays game had little to do with anything I said and I did specify both coordinators needed to go. Bevells had his time and his fair shake with this team. I've thought DB has called some of his better games this year but it's clear this offense isn't making strides any longer, it's stagnant and a new fresh mind and approach has go to be the next step...all coaches have a shelf life, it's the nature of the game, no coach lasts forever, and messages get tuned out....if a new coordinator can't get it done then it's time to look at player changes but you can't just keep doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results...we've seen what we've got we need to be better. We are long passed the knee jerk reaction stage, Bevell has had years to mold his offense.
 

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Anyone with any rational sense looks at the totality of the program. We had a ad game. It happens. Doesn't mean for a second that drastic changes are warranted.
 

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Do you just keep this on your copy and paste clip board?

Seen it a lot this season.

What was the definition of insanity again?
 

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