It's time to overhaul the offensive coaching staff

[Subzero717]

Please Paul Allen, please fire Pete. Thanks.

Hahahahaha

 

[johnnyfever]

Anyone with any rational sense looks at the totality of the program. We had a ad game. It happens. Doesn't mean for a second that drastic changes are warranted.

To address your post specifically, like it is going to matter, but here goes:

The "totality of the program" argument makes no sense. Does this mean as long as we what, "make the playoffs, make it to the superbowl, win half your games" etc that we dont need to change anything because the goal was hit?

News flash-Nfl teams have 1 goal, and that is to win the superbowl. that is what they play for and that is what the fans want. If you are cool with going 9-7 and missing the playoffs, or going 10-6 and making the playoffs just to get embarrassed first round, then you are on an island, cause there are very few people who aspire to this.

Are you always going to make the playoffs or the superbowl, let alone win it? Obviously not, but every year you have to identify your weaknesses and correct them. That's right, you need to MAKE CHANGES.

Sending 3 go routes where 2 of them end up in the same spot for ball delivery is an absolutely HORRIBLE PLAY. Now insert the fact that bev called that garbage play that he drew up in a critical time to keep the chains moving makes him not only bad at drawing up the plays, but also bad at calling the trash plays at the wrong time.

The devil is in the details Sioux, and you have missed the details for a long time now.

 

[Siouxhawk]

Do you just keep this on your copy and paste clip board?

Seen it a lot this season.

What was the definition of insanity again?

I get it. You can't see past your hand with your elbow bent.

 

[johnnyfever]

Do you just keep this on your copy and paste clip board?

Seen it a lot this season.

What was the definition of insanity again?

I get it.

Soooo many of us actually wish you did, but alas.....

 

[blaisio]

Crazy when the qb has the most rushing yards and the rb has the most receiving in a game. That tells you something was very wrong today. Even in garbage time our wr and te couldn't get any catches. Russ was off all day and receivers were dropping like crazy. There was the throw to Baldwin that was a td if on point and another to Richardson. It feels like the players have given up on bevell, need new blood in here.

 

[IrishNW]

this whole team needs to be overhauled.

 

[ducks41468]

Do you just keep this on your copy and paste clip board?

Seen it a lot this season.

What was the definition of insanity again?

I get it. You can't see past your hand with your elbow bent.

Your posts are atrocious and insult the intelligence of every single person on this board.

 

[Coug_Hawk08]

Please Paul Allen, please fire Pete. Thanks.

Hahahahaha

And your suggestion is? More of the same? Falling into obscurity?

 

[NJlargent]

I see no coaches have been fired yet. What is taking so long??

 

[Shanegotyou11]

They can also get rid of Richard. Talent was covering how awful he is at being a D coordinator.

This.

 

[adeltaY]

Anyone with any rational sense looks at the totality of the program. We had a ad game. It happens. Doesn't mean for a second that drastic changes are warranted.

Your second sentence is where I draw the line. This team hasn't lost by more than 7 at home in the RW era. We lost by 35 today. Rob Staton has a great article about this on seahawksdraftblog. That doesn't happen to this team. Where was the fight? The preparation?

The offense was absolutely abysmal Sioux. The line was crap. The QB missed open receivers. The receivers themselves weren't getting open and were dropping balls/fumbling all over the place. And yes, the offensive coaching wasn't good. Too many deep routes from the start. The thing is, this has been the case on and off all this year. This time, the defense was too weak and bad to hold up and give the offense a shot at coming back to make it close. The Special Teams broke the dam and that's a whole separate issue that merits a serious discussion.

There is no way in hell you should look back on this season and say the offense was acceptable. You can blame the GM for getting certain players who are bad and the coaching staff for failing to prepare these guys and/or gameplan effectively. I think both are at fault. Our offensive/ST FAs have been disasters. Lacy is a complete waste of cap space, Joeckel is hurt and inconsistent, and Walsh is Walsh. I didn't want to believe it at the time, but the Jon Ryan extension was also a mistake. Love the Ginja Ninja but he was awful today and has been mediocre for a while.

 

[JimmyG]

Sincere question: Are some of you that shortsighted that offense is all you can look at? Appears that way to me. If you don't get the game, I understand, but there was a hell of a lot more going on in this loss than an offensive gameplan.

Offense does well = "Wilson killed it today!"

Offense does poorly = "It's all Bevell's fault!"

Wilson does the most destruction on the broken/sandlot plays. He is not great at timing routes. It's not a coincidence that we go through huge lapses with no cadence or rhythm. Why this is still a mystery to people is beyond me.

 

[Coug_Hawk08]

Sincere question: Are some of you that shortsighted that offense is all you can look at? Appears that way to me. If you don't get the game, I understand, but there was a hell of a lot more going on in this loss than an offensive gameplan.

Offense does well = "Wilson killed it today!"

Offense does poorly = "It's all Bevell's fault!"

Wilson does the most destruction on the broken/sandlot plays. He is not great at timing routes. It's not a coincidence that we go through huge lapses with no cadence or rhythm. Why this is still a mystery to people is beyond me.

But he IS good on timing routes, up tempo in Rhythm. It is insane that we are calling soooooooo many deep routes and hanging our hat on those. Those need to to be bonus, not down in and down out.

 

[JimmyG]

Sincere question: Are some of you that shortsighted that offense is all you can look at? Appears that way to me. If you don't get the game, I understand, but there was a hell of a lot more going on in this loss than an offensive gameplan.

Offense does well = "Wilson killed it today!"

Offense does poorly = "It's all Bevell's fault!"

Wilson does the most destruction on the broken/sandlot plays. He is not great at timing routes. It's not a coincidence that we go through huge lapses with no cadence or rhythm. Why this is still a mystery to people is beyond me.

But he IS good on timing routes, up tempo in Rhythm. It is insane that we are calling soooooooo many deep routes and hanging our hat on those. Those need to to be bonus, not down in and down out.

I disagree. I don't think he can do it consistently. He has a tendency to hold the ball too and gets a little gunshy. Many sacks are on him from scrambling unnecessarily instead of letting her rip. Every quarterback in the league can be make any throw. The difference between the QBs is the consistency with which they can do it. Russell has great deep ball accuracy but his short/intermediate throws are inconsistent imo.

 

[RussB]

I expect no big changes. It is not Pete's style.

Aging roster, loss of lots of draft capital, serious cap issues....the question is, does Pete keep going?

Pete gave this franchise its first SB. Its time to change now hes too stubborn and he will only keep running the team into the ground. This defense isnt going to carry this team anymore and he just cant seem to get that.

 

[RussB]

Sincere question: Are some of you that shortsighted that offense is all you can look at? Appears that way to me. If you don't get the game, I understand, but there was a hell of a lot more going on in this loss than an offensive gameplan.

Offense does well = "Wilson killed it today!"

Offense does poorly = "It's all Bevell's fault!"

Wilson does the most destruction on the broken/sandlot plays. He is not great at timing routes. It's not a coincidence that we go through huge lapses with no cadence or rhythm. Why this is still a mystery to people is beyond me.

Having a terrible offensive coaching staff doesnt help either.

 

[TheLegendOfBoom]

Sincere question: Are some of you that shortsighted that offense is all you can look at? Appears that way to me. If you don't get the game, I understand, but there was a hell of a lot more going on in this loss than an offensive gameplan.

Here comes Sioux to defend his man-crush!

Lol, I thought the same.

Sioux, I have no idea what games you have been watching, but the Seahawks (both players and coaches) have been getting their asses handed to them.

Embarrassingly, handed to them.

At home.

Pretty much laughing and smiling at the Seahawks when they do it!

 

[Siouxhawk]

You can spin it any way you want. I prefer to look at the macro instead of getting all bent out of shape by the most immediate results and that's how I form my opinion. Too many damaging elements went into today's loss to be scapegoating one solitary figure.

 

[RussB]

Anyone with any rational sense looks at the totality of the program. We had a ad game. It happens. Doesn't mean for a second that drastic changes are warranted.

They have bad games alot now. 6 of them already this year.

 

[TheLegendOfBoom]

You can spin it any way you want. I prefer to look at the macro instead of getting all bent out of shape by the most immediate results and that's how I form my opinion. Too many damaging elements went into today's loss to be scapegoating one solitary figure.

You do realize that the coaches have been consistently calling bad games and being out coached for most of this season, right?!