Interesting Tweets: Defensive Vet worried about losing job

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I haven't read this entire thread, but maybe Avril?
 

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seahawk 17":r423liwv said:
If true, I am guessing Avril. Missed all of training camp and may be more injured than we are aware of.


The reason Avril doesn't resonate with me is that he has not yet HAD a spot on this team to lose. I'm certain the competition mantra was clear to him in advance of his signing so how could you lose something that was never yours?

Clemons still stands out to me. That guy wants back in SO badly that he has worked himself into a lather over whether or not the team has found enough to move on it out him.

That's my pointless speculation, anyway.

Whoever first started this madness is an asshole for not just exposing the name upfront.
 

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No way in the universe it's Mebane. You've got to be smoking some super crack to think that.

McDonald is the player they're talking about, I'm almost certain.


IF.....IF this story is even remotely true and not some fabricated reporter nonsense
 

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Rapaport said it was a veteran from the defensive line on a "big contract." So it wouldn't be McDaniel or McDonald. That means it was one of:

Bryant
Clemons
Mebane
Bennett
Avril

As has been pointed out, Rapaport said himself that the player in question is in no actual danger of being cut, he just felt nervous and sought reassurance from his position coach. I guess in that sense, it could have been Mebane who asked the question. Maybe he saw the four notable DTs we added this offseason and started to wonder.
 

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kearly":1qvn9abo said:
Rapaport said it was a veteran from the defensive line on a "big contract." So it wouldn't be McDaniel or McDonald. That means it was one of:

Bryant
Clemons
Mebane
Bennett
Avril

As has been pointed out, Rapaport said himself that the player in question is in no actual danger of being cut, he just felt nervous and sought reassurance from his position coach. I guess in that sense, it could have been Mebane who asked the question. Maybe he saw the four notable DTs we added this offseason and started to wonder.
Didn't catch the big contract part, but I still can't see Mebane being worried about it at all. We don't have another 1 tech even close to his elite level. Red might make sense though. McDaniel, Williams, Howard, and Bennett can all play 5 tech and Red has been concerned about pass rush since the beginning of last year. Even going as far as altering his diet and getting help with sleep issues in this offseason.

If true, I bet it's Red. I just don't see any way it's Mebane. JMHO.
 

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Mcdaniel has had no job to lose. It's possible we could go Williams and Hill but that's a stretch. And it's not big red, he's looked really good. I can't imagine Avril/Bennett losing their job at Leo. This is puzzling and I'll believe it when I see it. I would love for it to b true considering how much capital we have invested in the d line
 

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If it's Avril that almost gaurantees CLemons is healthy. AHA
 

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It's late and I've had a few glasses of wine, but even still I just can't see any current veteran DL at risk of losing his job. Especially one who was paid (Clemmons, Red, Mebane).

I don't give a damn how good a newer player or even a rookie looks in practice. It is not real game action. Even pre-season games will not change my opinion.

I will only look at real regular season games to see if a current paid veteran DL is being usurped by a newer and younger DL player on this team . We have done enough churning on this team and need to start appreciating highly productive veterans, instead of trashing them for even younger and much less experienced players.

At least that is how I see it.
 

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kf3339":1kwfmx3q said:
It's late and I've had a few glasses of wine, but even still I just can't see any current veteran DL at risk of losing his job. Especially one who was paid (Clemmons, Red, Mebane).

I don't give a damn how good a newer player or even a rookie looks in practice. It is not real game action. Even pre-season games will not change my opinion.

I will only look at real regular season games to see if a current paid veteran DL is being usurped by a newer and younger DL player on this team . We have done enough churning on this team and need to start appreciating highly productive veterans, instead of trashing them for even younger and much less experienced players.

At least that is how I see it.
Completely disagree, remember when we got rid of Tatupu and everyone freaked because he had experience. Guess what, they got younger and we ended up with Bobby Wagner
 

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When they cut Lofa he had also severely slowed down and was a detriment to the defense, same went for Hawthorne. Has anyone on the Dline slipped in performance in anyway?
 

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EastCoastHawksFan":16tuo43s said:
I'm not sure why so many people believe this story is real

Not saying they're never wrong, but the people reporting this are some pretty reputable insiders around the league. I would trust their word.
 

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kf3339":1xgfcj8a said:
It's late and I've had a few glasses of wine, but even still I just can't see any current veteran DL at risk of losing his job. Especially one who was paid (Clemmons, Red, Mebane).

I don't give a damn how good a newer player or even a rookie looks in practice. It is not real game action. Even pre-season games will not change my opinion.

I will only look at real regular season games to see if a current paid veteran DL is being usurped by a newer and younger DL player on this team . We have done enough churning on this team and need to start appreciating highly productive veterans, instead of trashing them for even younger and much less experienced players.

At least that is how I see it.

Here's my take...

While you might not be able to see any current DL vet at risk, the fact that a well-compensated D-lineman asked his coaches if he needed to worry is a damn good sign. Because that means that either the D-lineman is losing reps to some of the new additions, or the D-lineman is seeing something stand out from the new additions in camp. Either way, he's just seeking reassurance that he's not being replaced - and the fact that he's asking is a sign that some of our new guys are bringing it.
 

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-The Glove-":178sn3zf said:
Teqneek":178sn3zf said:
Vet doesn't equal starter... so think this is a pretty empty rumor of any significance
Non-starter equals non-paid.

i see. I wasnt aware only 22 of 52 were paid players, thanks for clarifying that for me. Why is our cap so high
 

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Really? Really?

This is straight up soap opera bullshit about NOTHING, all from the same guy who said based on team sources retaining Matt Flynn was a priority, and, this is best of all, that in August of last year it was not too soon to start thinking about Andrew Luck as a Hall of Famer.
 

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vin.couve12":296bllmu said:
Didn't catch the big contract part, but I still can't see Mebane being worried about it at all. We don't have another 1 tech even close to his elite level. Red might make sense though. McDaniel, Williams, Howard, and Bennett can all play 5 tech and Red has been concerned about pass rush since the beginning of last year. Even going as far as altering his diet and getting help with sleep issues in this offseason.

If true, I bet it's Red. I just don't see any way it's Mebane. JMHO.

I think it's got to be Red, Bennett has to play somewhere and once Clemons,, Irvin, and Avril are all back the Leo spot is all but locked up. With Hill, McDaniels and J.Williams all being new DT Bennett doesn't won't have much time at DT. That leaves me thinking he will be taking many snaps away from Red Bryant. So it doesn't surprise me he can see the writing on the wall that Bennett not only bring a solid run stopping but more of a pass rush than Red.
 

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Let's look at this position by position:

Mebane. Possibly, but who could really be outplaying him ? Maybe Hill, we've heard good things about him, but I can't see it. It won't be Williams, as I don't see the coaching staff theorizing that Williams can replace anybody until his knee holds up under normal playing conditions for a year. They've been giving him every 3rd day off, and for a rookie I can't see that as promising that he'll start.

Big Red. This was my first thought. All we've heard is how good he's looked, and he's healthy but his on the field performance suffered last year. Then again, he played through an injury and that would send a bad message to the team: play through and injury, and if you look bad, you'll get replaced. The primary guy to replace him would be Bennett. He's one of the top ranked 4-3 DE's against the run, and gives a ton more pass rush on every down that Big Red does. Could also be Howard, but that would be pretty under the radar.

3 Tech is open. No one to complain about here.

Clemons. I didn't think about this one until Montana brought it up, but again...he's injured, is it really his job to lose if he's on PUP right now? And who replaces him? Avril was our premiere signing at the position, and he's barely been on the field so far. He can't have won the job yet. Irvin is being moved to SAM, so either Morgan or that kid we signed in the 7th, and I haven't heard a peep about him. We've been hearing good things about Benson Mayawa, maybe it's him.

This is really interesting for sure, if true.
 

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All i know from this rumor is, one of our vetran D lineman is worried about his starting job, and that to me spells competition is tight, and that's always a good thing.

might also be some butt-hurtedness going on, but hey, nobody's job is guarenteed.
 
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