Interesting Tweets: Defensive Vet worried about losing job

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Hmm well let's look at the scenarios:

Bryant- has been great so far- "looked the best since joining the Seahawks". He's healthy and competing fiercely.
Clemons- Injured. I don't see this being an option as it would be normal for someone to play in his spot while he is hurt
Mebane- Haven't heard anything about him at camp.
Branch's position- They signed McDaniel and drafted Williams and Hill to fill that role. I can't imagine McDaniel complaining after signing a small contract and being told he had to compete to win it.
LEO- Avril/Clem have that locked up this position and the other will be the nickel rusher.

The only things I can see is if Hill is outplaying Mebane...but that would really surprise me.
 

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Mebane is scheduled to make 5 mil next year with very little dead money left from his last contract. Distinct possibility.
 

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Come on guys, it might make sense for maybe a Clemons as he hasn't been out there, but I can't imagine that our own .net camp attendees/reporters/observers wouldn't have been on to this prior to some rumor mill tweets. Big Red or Mebane getting outplayed enough to cause that kind of consternation would have been noticed.
 

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Basis4day":2mxi58lb said:
Mebane is scheduled to make 5 mil next year with very little dead money left from his last contract. Distinct possibility.

Sure it's a possibility until you realize that you're taking about Mebane who had been nothing but consistently excellent and you're getting him for only 5 mil
 

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This player doesn't necessarily have to be outplayed. Having someone behind you thats not a dramatic drop off but is much cheaper could be enough. Obviously this player was worried enough to talk to coaches.
 

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Hawk Strap":2k65ag2r said:
Probably Bennett, he saw the two kickers and just assumed

Joker clap

Red and Mebane are a big part of the defense, and will be safe until someone mind blowing comes along and usurps them, or they show signs of degradation (but it sounds like they've been doing well this summer and are ready to show up all season).

Clemons being worried about losing his job because he can't be on the field is also an interesting theory. However, our coaches are not d-bags and wouldn't take someones job away due to injury. They might split time with their replacement until they're 100%, but losing a job outright just won't happen.

My guess would be Tony McDaniel. 8 year Vet, only 88 tackles in his career with 8.5 sacks. Only started 16 games one time and that was in 2009. There's a lot of intriguing young talent on the DLine this year, and it's easy to see how the FO focused on that going into the off season. If I was this guy I would be worried too, especially if you thought you had a nice thing going for 2013-14. Signed to a championship caliber team, don't have to play every single down, nice pay check (probably with some nice incentives). Now, these young men come in and start putting on a show, and you're left there with your future dangling over your head...that's gotta be rough.
 

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Just because a player is afraid of losing his job doesn't mean his job's in jeopardy. It is easy to become paranoid about job security when the money and stakes are high, I've found from experience. Especially when you are familiar with what it's like to have nothing.
 

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SouthSoundHawk":1i8xbyo9 said:
Hawk Strap":1i8xbyo9 said:
Probably Bennett, he saw the two kickers and just assumed

Joker clap

Red and Mebane are a big part of the defense, and will be safe until someone mind blowing comes along and usurps them, or they show signs of degradation (but it sounds like they've been doing well this summer and are ready to show up all season).

Clemons being worried about losing his job because he can't be on the field is also an interesting theory. However, our coaches are not d-bags and wouldn't take someones job away due to injury. They might split time with their replacement until they're 100%, but losing a job outright just won't happen.

My guess would be Tony McDaniel. 8 year Vet, only 88 tackles in his career with 8.5 sacks. Only started 16 games one time and that was in 2009. There's a lot of intriguing young talent on the DLine this year, and it's easy to see how the FO focused on that going into the off season. If I was this guy I would be worried too, especially if you thought you had a nice thing going for 2013-14. Signed to a championship caliber team, don't have to play every single down, nice pay check (probably with some nice incentives). Now, these young men come in and start putting on a show, and you're left there with your future dangling over your head...that's gotta be rough.

McDaniel's is one of the least "paid" guys on the defense.
 

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I would lean towards a FA signing that doesn't understand the always compete mantra we have here. Every player that has been in Petes camp from last year knows the deal, you just point to Russell Wilson , Doug Baldwin, Sherman and and the list goes on about competeing and winning your job every day and play.
 

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Vet doesn't equal starter... so think this is a pretty empty rumor of any significance
 

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Teqneek":17dfp5dy said:
Vet doesn't equal starter... so think this is a pretty empty rumor of any significance
Non-starter equals non-paid.
 

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I love speculative shit like this. Detective work time.

My guesses, in order of likelihood:

Bryant:

Before I even read the tweet saying it was a defensive lineman, I thought of Bryant who is likely a goner after this season anyway (roster bonus) and who hasn't lived up to his second contract. Also, there is a LOT of competition for Bryant's job right now: Bennett, Howard, probably Jesse Williams too (if not now then in the future). Seattle likes to have a replacement on hand before they release paid veterans, and they made several moves to replace Bryant his offseason.

If I was Bryant, I'd be nervous. I don't really care about the camp reports, Bryant has 3 seasons at the 5-tech now and has not performed up to his current pay level. The reason he's still here is because he's a physically rare profile and a good leader, but it looks like Seattle has found more guys with that rare profile (Jesse Williams, etc) and last season showed that they had plenty of leadership on defense already.

The only reason I don't think it's Bryant is because most of his 2013 salary is guaranteed, so releasing him right now offers almost no cap relief. 2014 is a very different story, though.

Clemons:

Clemons is also being paid a lot and has seen the team make several new additions to compete. Perhaps more alarmingly, there are major changes underway to the LEO position itself which makes the position less strict to find talent for. Seattle is already building their post-Clemons defense, so his being nervous makes a lot of sense. If immediate contract fears are the motivating factor, then Clemons would make the most sense.

McDaniel:

He's on a vet minimum contract ($890k), and was basically signed to replace a starter from last season. His resume is somewhat underwhelming though, and he does classify as a veteran. He may not be paid highly, but you'd assume that he signed here at least feeling like a roster spot was in the bag, which right now looks far less certain. The Seahawks have a lot of bodies at the 3-tech right now. I could see it being McDaniel.

McDonald:

He's making the minimum RFA tender. He shouldn't be anymore worried about keeping his job than he's ever been.

Mebane:

I think Seattle would be crazy to release Mebane, especially since his $5 million average salary is a bargain. If they did release him, he'd be replaced by Williams or Hill, both rookies. Hill is NOT an NFL caliber 1-tech, even by 3-tech standards his run defense is on the low side of mediocre. Williams could do the job, but Seattle's pass rush would suffer, and Williams knees are no sure thing, and we'd have no real depth behind Williams. That plus, the team seems to like Williams for the 3-tech in 2013. Again, releasing Mebane would be crazy, and I see no reason for him to be nervous. But who knows, I didn't see the Housh release coming either.

Players I'd rule out:

Avril:

We need him in the first four weeks pretty badly.

Bennett:

He's a huge part of our new defense, plus he's versatile, and his contract is only a modest burden, with nothing owed after this season. He's also playing very well, per reports, and is coming off a breakout season.
 

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Clem. They just paid him and he's injured and is playing at a deep position.

I can't imagine it's Mebane as I can't imagine our run D without him till I see it with my own eyes
 

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If true, I am guessing Avril. Missed all of training camp and may be more injured than we are aware of.
 
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