Hurtt would be a HORRIBLE choice as DC

[RockinHawks]

Isn't Pete the Head Coach, and shouldn't be be "running the show?" I mean, that's what a head coach does. He implements his plan and hires coaches to support that. An OC and DC will bring some of their ideas to the table, run some of their schemes, etc., but it's not like the head coach DOESN'T run the team the way he wants...otherwise, Pete wouldn't be a very good head coach.

I really liked what K.J. had to say about a head coach and coordinators... it starts with PERSONNEL. If you don't have the players, then it really won't matter what scheme you're running. Pete needs better players... some years it comes together, some years it doesn't. We're getting a fresh mind to run the defense, and bringing in other Fangio disciples to tweak the gameplan and get hopefully get some success pressuring the QB and getting more turnovers. Let's see what free agency and the draft bring us.

Hurtt has done NOTHING to warrant the negative criticism, or being labeled a "yes man," he's a quality coach who is young and has the respect of his players.

I guess I shouldn't be surprised at the negativity. I just don't like roasting someone before they've had a chance to succeed. Very weird.

 

[xray]

It doesn't matter who Carroll hires . Carroll has and always will interfere with his coaching staff . The names change but he never will .

 

[keasley45]

Isn't Pete the Head Coach, and shouldn't be be "running the show?" I mean, that's what a head coach does. He implements his plan and hires coaches to support that. An OC and DC will bring some of their ideas to the table, run some of their schemes, etc., but it's not like the head coach DOESN'T run the team the way he wants...otherwise, Pete wouldn't be a very good head coach.

I really liked what K.J. had to say about a head coach and coordinators... it starts with PERSONNEL. If you don't have the players, then it really won't matter what scheme you're running. Pete needs better players... some years it comes together, some years it doesn't. We're getting a fresh mind to run the defense, and bringing in other Fangio disciples to tweak the gameplan and get hopefully get some success pressuring the QB and getting more turnovers. Let's see what free agency and the draft bring us.

Hurtt has done NOTHING to warrant the negative criticism, or being labeled a "yes man," he's a quality coach who is young and has the respect of his players.

I guess I shouldn't be surprised at the negativity. I just don't like roasting someone before they've had a chance to succeed. Very weird.

Well said

 

[JayhawkMike]

Isn't Pete the Head Coach, and shouldn't be be "running the show?" I mean, that's what a head coach does. He implements his plan and hires coaches to support that. An OC and DC will bring some of their ideas to the table, run some of their schemes, etc., but it's not like the head coach DOESN'T run the team the way he wants...otherwise, Pete wouldn't be a very good head coach.

I really liked what K.J. had to say about a head coach and coordinators... it starts with PERSONNEL. If you don't have the players, then it really won't matter what scheme you're running. Pete needs better players... some years it comes together, some years it doesn't. We're getting a fresh mind to run the defense, and bringing in other Fangio disciples to tweak the gameplan and get hopefully get some success pressuring the QB and getting more turnovers. Let's see what free agency and the draft bring us.

Hurtt has done NOTHING to warrant the negative criticism, or being labeled a "yes man," he's a quality coach who is young and has the respect of his players.

I guess I shouldn't be surprised at the negativity. I just don't like roasting someone before they've had a chance to succeed. Very weird.

Seems like he has had a chance to succeed but has failed. How has our DLine been since he’s been here in metrics like sacks, qB hurries and hits, tackles for loss and things like getting off the field on third down? HORRIBLE. So you won’t blame PC because it’s KNJ right? You won’t blame KNJ because well it’s PC And you won’t blame Hurtt because it is either KNJ or PC. Some of you ahs will never hold ANY coach accountable for ANYTHING. Bunch of clowns.

 

[Jville]

Isn't Pete the Head Coach, and shouldn't be be "running the show?" I mean, that's what a head coach does. He implements his plan and hires coaches to support that. An OC and DC will bring some of their ideas to the table, run some of their schemes, etc., but it's not like the head coach DOESN'T run the team the way he wants...otherwise, Pete wouldn't be a very good head coach.

I really liked what K.J. had to say about a head coach and coordinators... it starts with PERSONNEL. If you don't have the players, then it really won't matter what scheme you're running. Pete needs better players... some years it comes together, some years it doesn't. We're getting a fresh mind to run the defense, and bringing in other Fangio disciples to tweak the gameplan and get hopefully get some success pressuring the QB and getting more turnovers. Let's see what free agency and the draft bring us.

Hurtt has done NOTHING to warrant the negative criticism, or being labeled a "yes man," he's a quality coach who is young and has the respect of his players.

I guess I shouldn't be surprised at the negativity. I just don't like roasting someone before they've had a chance to succeed. Very weird.

I view the weirdness as anarchy at work lashing out and attacking that which it doesn't understand.

 

[Yxes1122]

Isn't Pete the Head Coach, and shouldn't be be "running the show?" I mean, that's what a head coach does. He implements his plan and hires coaches to support that. An OC and DC will bring some of their ideas to the table, run some of their schemes, etc., but it's not like the head coach DOESN'T run the team the way he wants...otherwise, Pete wouldn't be a very good head coach.

I really liked what K.J. had to say about a head coach and coordinators... it starts with PERSONNEL. If you don't have the players, then it really won't matter what scheme you're running. Pete needs better players... some years it comes together, some years it doesn't. We're getting a fresh mind to run the defense, and bringing in other Fangio disciples to tweak the gameplan and get hopefully get some success pressuring the QB and getting more turnovers. Let's see what free agency and the draft bring us.

Hurtt has done NOTHING to warrant the negative criticism, or being labeled a "yes man," he's a quality coach who is young and has the respect of his players.

I guess I shouldn't be surprised at the negativity. I just don't like roasting someone before they've had a chance to succeed. Very weird.

Seems like he has had a chance to succeed but has failed. How has our DLine been since he’s been here in metrics like sacks, qB hurries and hits, tackles for loss and things like getting off the field on third down? HORRIBLE. So you won’t blame PC because it’s KNJ right? You won’t blame KNJ because well it’s PC And you won’t blame Hurtt because it is either KNJ or PC. Some of you ahs will never hold ANY coach accountable for ANYTHING. Bunch of clowns.

No amount of coaching will turn Benson Mayowa into Cliff Avril, Rasheem Green into Michael Bennett, or Darrell Taylor into Chris Clemons.

More than that, Seattle's use of Bear Fronts in 2020 and early 2021 impacted rush angles. There's a reason we didn't hear Dunlap's name much in the early part of the season but did later in the season.

You can only do so much when you don't have rushers that can consistently win one-on-ones. All coaching can do is try to mitigate the lack of talent on the DL. Seattle's been struggling to replace their rushers for years and that falls squarely on the Personnel Department (Looking right at the 2019 Draft when Seattle passed on Montez Sweat and Maxx Crosby).

Listening to Dugar's podcast with Clint Hurtt and listening to him Mic'd Up at practice will give you insight into who Hurtt is. He seems like a sharp guy who also gets a lot of respect from the men in that building.

And more than anything, Seattle's defense did good things last year while being absolutely marred by injury and turnover in the secondary. There are things to improve and carry forward. It makes a lot of sense to have Clint be the one to carry that forward while adding Donatell (and potentially Desai) to build on the Fangio style principles we saw added late last year.

Let's not forget that Clint comes from the Fangio tree.

 

[Maelstrom787]

Isn't Pete the Head Coach, and shouldn't be be "running the show?" I mean, that's what a head coach does. He implements his plan and hires coaches to support that. An OC and DC will bring some of their ideas to the table, run some of their schemes, etc., but it's not like the head coach DOESN'T run the team the way he wants...otherwise, Pete wouldn't be a very good head coach.

I really liked what K.J. had to say about a head coach and coordinators... it starts with PERSONNEL. If you don't have the players, then it really won't matter what scheme you're running. Pete needs better players... some years it comes together, some years it doesn't. We're getting a fresh mind to run the defense, and bringing in other Fangio disciples to tweak the gameplan and get hopefully get some success pressuring the QB and getting more turnovers. Let's see what free agency and the draft bring us.

Hurtt has done NOTHING to warrant the negative criticism, or being labeled a "yes man," he's a quality coach who is young and has the respect of his players.

I guess I shouldn't be surprised at the negativity. I just don't like roasting someone before they've had a chance to succeed. Very weird.

Seems like he has had a chance to succeed but has failed. How has our DLine been since he’s been here in metrics like sacks, qB hurries and hits, tackles for loss and things like getting off the field on third down? HORRIBLE. So you won’t blame PC because it’s KNJ right? You won’t blame KNJ because well it’s PC And you won’t blame Hurtt because it is either KNJ or PC. Some of you ahs will never hold ANY coach accountable for ANYTHING. Bunch of clowns.

Does this point to coaching or personnel?

Seems to me like if you actually look at the situation, the defensive line has been coached pretty damn well. Frank Clark regressed once leaving, every defensive tackle overperformed here, and they're always very good at run defense.

 

[Jville]

Isn't Pete the Head Coach, and shouldn't be be "running the show?" I mean, that's what a head coach does. He implements his plan and hires coaches to support that. An OC and DC will bring some of their ideas to the table, run some of their schemes, etc., but it's not like the head coach DOESN'T run the team the way he wants...otherwise, Pete wouldn't be a very good head coach.

I really liked what K.J. had to say about a head coach and coordinators... it starts with PERSONNEL. If you don't have the players, then it really won't matter what scheme you're running. Pete needs better players... some years it comes together, some years it doesn't. We're getting a fresh mind to run the defense, and bringing in other Fangio disciples to tweak the gameplan and get hopefully get some success pressuring the QB and getting more turnovers. Let's see what free agency and the draft bring us.

Hurtt has done NOTHING to warrant the negative criticism, or being labeled a "yes man," he's a quality coach who is young and has the respect of his players.

I guess I shouldn't be surprised at the negativity. I just don't like roasting someone before they've had a chance to succeed. Very weird.

Seems like he has had a chance to succeed but has failed. How has our DLine been since he’s been here in metrics like sacks, qB hurries and hits, tackles for loss and things like getting off the field on third down? HORRIBLE. So you won’t blame PC because it’s KNJ right? You won’t blame KNJ because well it’s PC And you won’t blame Hurtt because it is either KNJ or PC. Some of you ahs will never hold ANY coach accountable for ANYTHING. Bunch of clowns.

Does this point to coaching or personnel?

Seems to me like if you actually look at the situation, the defensive line has been coached pretty damn well. Frank Clark regressed once leaving, every defensive tackle overperformed here, and they're always very good at run defense.

Perhaps someone can shed some light on Damione Lewis ..... Defensive Assistant/Defensive Line. We do know he was an a defensive tackle in his playing days. And he had a hand in helping two former rookie free agents develop into excellent pro tackles. And it will be interesting to learn how his responsibilities might change as a consequence of Hurtt's promotion.

 

[keasley45]

Isn't Pete the Head Coach, and shouldn't be be "running the show?" I mean, that's what a head coach does. He implements his plan and hires coaches to support that. An OC and DC will bring some of their ideas to the table, run some of their schemes, etc., but it's not like the head coach DOESN'T run the team the way he wants...otherwise, Pete wouldn't be a very good head coach.

I really liked what K.J. had to say about a head coach and coordinators... it starts with PERSONNEL. If you don't have the players, then it really won't matter what scheme you're running. Pete needs better players... some years it comes together, some years it doesn't. We're getting a fresh mind to run the defense, and bringing in other Fangio disciples to tweak the gameplan and get hopefully get some success pressuring the QB and getting more turnovers. Let's see what free agency and the draft bring us.

Hurtt has done NOTHING to warrant the negative criticism, or being labeled a "yes man," he's a quality coach who is young and has the respect of his players.

I guess I shouldn't be surprised at the negativity. I just don't like roasting someone before they've had a chance to succeed. Very weird.

Seems like he has had a chance to succeed but has failed. How has our DLine been since he’s been here in metrics like sacks, qB hurries and hits, tackles for loss and things like getting off the field on third down? HORRIBLE. So you won’t blame PC because it’s KNJ right? You won’t blame KNJ because well it’s PC And you won’t blame Hurtt because it is either KNJ or PC. Some of you ahs will never hold ANY coach accountable for ANYTHING. Bunch of clowns.

Does this point to coaching or personnel?

Seems to me like if you actually look at the situation, the defensive line has been coached pretty damn well. Frank Clark regressed once leaving, every defensive tackle overperformed here, and they're always very good at run defense.

Probably some of both, but for sure personnel, and also, according to KJ (who would know), an attempt to actually change the way we play defense. That would seem to fly a bit in the face of the mantra that we just do the same old thing every year. In reality, the defensive scheme is one that is in a bit if a transition and one without its share of missteps as they retool on the fly.

But I agree, Poona, Woods, Green to a degree, Taylor... they've all excelled under Hurtt. But it's obvious we were missing a pretty significant interior rush piece last year and chose to ride it out rather than devoting resources like Adams to compensate. They also went in a man down late last year with Aldon unable to play.

I'll reserve judgment on Hurtt but don't disagree with surrounding a young mind with experienced mentors around him. I just thought they might bring that young guy in from outside. The desire to mix in Fangio's approach is obvious though.

 

[sdog1981]

Hurtt is 43, the same age as Bradley when he was hired in 2009. I did not think he was that young.

 

[Jville]

Hurtt is 43, the same age as Bradley when he was hired in 2009. I did not think he was that young.

Hurtt's assistant Damione Lewis is also 43 years young.

 

[IndyHawk]

I'm having a nice crust-less quiche tonight. Should be delicious. What is on everyone's menu tonight?

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