Was Grubb a Schneider or a Macdonald hire?

[IndyHawk]

Grubb is who I wanted and I'm sticking with him, he needs time
and a better OL to work with.
I hear Lucas is coming back and that great news.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Lucas? For reals? Holy hell that would be massive for this o line.

 

[JayhawkMike]

I love how when the Seahawks stare down the QB gauntlet of Bo Nix, Jacoby Brissett, and Skylar Thompson they're said to have cemented themselves as the NFL's best defense, but when my Buckeyes dominate Akron, Western Michigan, and Marshall to start the year, everyone is all "they havnt played anyone" and "the combined NIL funds of those three schools wouldn't cover your fourth-string punter's lunch", and such.

Let’s not talk about Ohio State losing me a couple bucks v. Oregon.

 

[JayhawkMike]

Curious as to the original question not for blame or anything but just out of curiosity.

 

[Rat]

What do the Seahawks have to do with Ohio State?

It absolutely was a relevant comparison, but as someone without ties to the PNW, I'm sometimes guilty of not taking the audience into consideration when I'm ranting about something. It's easy to forget that I'm on a forum where 90% of the posters think high-stakes college football is something with the battle-worthy name of "Apple Cup".

Admittedly, not super familiar with that game myself, I did a little research. This is a direct, cut-and-paste explanation, I found especially helpful, in case other out-of-state fans aren't sure either:

"The Apple Cup is an annual college football game played between two unranked teams, led by coaches who have been employed by their respective school an average of 2.6 years. The match aims to establish athletic dominance over a state boasting one big 4 championship in the past 45 years. The name "Apple Cup" is credited to 6-year-old Susie Samuels, whose contribution was the winning entry in a contest held by local girl scout troop No. 78, narrowly defeating "The Bugs Bunny Bowl" and the "The Pebbles Flintstone Rainbow Game". There has been increasing momentum in recent years to change the name to "The Taylor Swift Showdown".

Each outing of the Apple Cup concludes with what has become a beloved tradition, where the coach of the winning team frantically contacts every school in the SEC to beg for a job."

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Fair enough

UW has absolutely dominated the Apple Cup, and it's not even close. Meh

The Dawgs area 76-34-6 in the Apple Cup. They have won 9 of the last 11, 12 of the last 15. What's entertaining about it is that when the Cougs actually win one, they pump their chests out like it's some huge accomplishment.

 

[Seahawk_Dan]

For real you guys. For a first time NFL Offensive Coordinator, the offensive over all has been mixed but there have been highlights and promise, and the team is still is 3-3. All things considering, that's not bad.

Could the team be doing better? Of course it should and we all want to too, but we need to wait until Macdonald, Grubb, and the staff get more of their guys onboard via Free Agency and the Draft.

 

[FreshBoxLive]

Not sure if I remember the timings right, but weren't we the last team to hire a head coach last off season? then we waiting quite awhile to name that OC? Please correct me if wrong.

I am wondering if Grubb was a Schneider hire or a Macdonald hire. It really ought to be Macdonald's decision to make, right? If so, it was MM's decision on having an all rookie coaching team, a first time HC, a first time DC and an OC never coached in the league.

With all three learning on the job, MM learning how to build a team culture, Grubb learning how to handle NFL's multimillionaire players. We may not have XO problem at this point but more of the a team spirit issue? Or as 12thmenrising reported: " the fabric of the team could be coming apart at the seams a bit." Coming apart after 6 games?

It comes back to who hired Grubb? If it was Schneider, our HC wasn't allowed to assemble his own staff? That would be dysfunction from day one. If it was MM, why an all rookie coaching?

Ok I am done with my incoherent ranting. Sorry guys.

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12thmanrising.com

I think MM and grubb met in the off-season and hit it off if I remember right.

 

[FreshBoxLive]

Expecting a first year OC, who has never coached in the NFL, to be great right away is a little unrealistic. He'll learn, he'll improve, and this team will be better in the long run.

Ok then. Why didn't we hire a turn key coordinator? It doesn't make any sense to "develop" a coordinator. What can Grubb develop into that is even that unique or special?

 

[SoulfishHawk]

He's a hell of an OC. I shouldn't have to explain it to you. You've clearly already made up your mind about the guy after 6 games. And you clearly didn't watch him at UW. EXTREMELY creative OC.

Congrats. Par for the course so far for you. EVERY decision the Hawks make is a** to you. Awesome

 

[Lords of Scythia]

Blaming these losses on the offense is a fools game. It’s plain to see the defense is the weak link right now.

If we had scored more and won more that wouldn’t change the fact that the defense is playing second rate football.

The defense is gonna look bad when it constantly going back on the field after yet another turnover. They had three on us in the last game--that is where we lost.

 

[kidhawk]

The defense is gonna look bad when it constantly going back on the field after yet another turnover. They had three on us in the last game--that is where we lost.

This assumes that the defense looks good without the turnovers.

Make no mistake the offense sees far from perfect but the defense is absolutely trash right now. The offense is the only thing making these games close enough for a turnover to make a difference.

 

[toffee]

Macdonald must saw something in Grubb that we all couldn't see, or just that the our coach hiring process dragging so long that all the good candidates were gone by the time Macdonald started looking for his OC?

 

[toffee]

With the news that Macdonald was leaning towards hiring Arthur Smith, the Grubb hire was probably Schneider's idea?

 

[hawks85]

Tough crowd, yet again. 6 fricken games and all the sudden Grubb sucks

Grubb doesn't suck, he's just not balancing the offensive scheme. Grubb is a pass happy OC and does not like running the ball. Me, personally, I wasn't a fan the hire because I know Grubb from UW. Did great things there no doubt about it, but he's using the same approach here of a pass happy offense and it's not working. There's been moments this season I'll admit that, but overall, I would like someone else to call the offense, a more experienced coach.

 

[Seahawk_Dan]

Grubb suffers the same way Chip Kelly did, and that's trying to "outsmart" the NFL by using college ball schemes and styles. Grubb, if still in college either as HC or OC, would probably be finding a lot of success, but often it appears that attempting to turn a professional football team into a college hybrid never really works out.

 

[GemCity]

It absolutely was a relevant comparison, but as someone without ties to the PNW, I'm sometimes guilty of not taking the audience into consideration when I'm ranting about something. It's easy to forget that I'm on a forum where 90% of the posters think high-stakes college football is something with the battle-worthy name of "Apple Cup".

Admittedly, not super familiar with that game myself, I did a little research. This is a direct, cut-and-paste explanation, I found especially helpful, in case other out-of-state fans aren't sure either:

"The Apple Cup is an annual college football game played between two unranked teams, led by coaches who have been employed by their respective school an average of 2.6 years. The match aims to establish athletic dominance over a state boasting one big 4 championship in the past 45 years. The name "Apple Cup" is credited to 6-year-old Susie Samuels, whose contribution was the winning entry in a contest held by local girl scout troop No. 78, narrowly defeating "The Bugs Bunny Bowl" and the "The Pebbles Flintstone Rainbow Game". There has been increasing momentum in recent years to change the name to "The Taylor Swift Showdown".

Each outing of the Apple Cup concludes with what has become a beloved tradition, where the coach of the winning team frantically contacts every school in the SEC to beg for a job."

L M A O

 

[Sperrydogg]

L M A O

It absolutely was a relevant comparison, but as someone without ties to the PNW, I'm sometimes guilty of not taking the audience into consideration when I'm ranting about something. It's easy to forget that I'm on a forum where 90% of the posters think high-stakes college football is something with the battle-worthy name of "Apple Cup".

Admittedly, not super familiar with that game myself, I did a little research. This is a direct, cut-and-paste explanation, I found especially helpful, in case other out-of-state fans aren't sure either:

"The Apple Cup is an annual college football game played between two unranked teams, led by coaches who have been employed by their respective school an average of 2.6 years. The match aims to establish athletic dominance over a state boasting one big 4 championship in the past 45 years. The name "Apple Cup" is credited to 6-year-old Susie Samuels, whose contribution was the winning entry in a contest held by local girl scout troop No. 78, narrowly defeating "The Bugs Bunny Bowl" and the "The Pebbles Flintstone Rainbow Game". There has been increasing momentum in recent years to change the name to "The Taylor Swift Showdown".

Each outing of the Apple Cup concludes with what has become a beloved tradition, where the coach of the winning team frantically contacts every school in the SEC to beg for a job."

I mean that’s funny but I resent it almost as much as I like it. Like I said we are moving up around these backwoods and getting all the modern amenities like flushing toilets and stuff so it won’t be long before the apple cup is synonymous with the Super Bowl

 

[Maelstrom787]

Grubb suffers the same way Chip Kelly did, and that's trying to "outsmart" the NFL by using college ball schemes and styles. Grubb, if still in college either as HC or OC, would probably be finding a lot of success, but often it appears that attempting to turn a professional football team into a college hybrid never really works out.

Chip worked out a lot better than we remember as far as offense goes. He wasn't quite HC material in the NFL, but that dude coached Nick Foles to 27TD/2INT in a season.

Since then, he's developed a killer ground game and has some really sexy rushing concepts.

He was perfect for us. He had enough experience to know the NFL game, knew how to run his side of the team with little to no oversight, and has proven merit as a playcaller. You want an executive type when you're hiring an OC that'll have autonomy over the offense.

I'm beating a dead horse here lol. Just think he was a great option for us.

 

[Seahawk_Dan]

Chip worked out a lot better than we remember as far as offense goes. He wasn't quite HC material in the NFL, but that dude coached Nick Foles to 27TD/2INT in a season.

Since then, he's developed a killer ground game and has some really sexy rushing concepts.

He was perfect for us. He had enough experience to know the NFL game, knew how to run his side of the team with little to no oversight, and has proven merit as a playcaller. You want an executive type when you're hiring an OC that'll have autonomy over the offense.

I'm beating a dead horse here lol. Just think he was a great option for us.

I think due to sour memories of Philly, Chip was seen as a known commodity and Grubb was the new hot thing from a high powered UDub offense that competed in the National Title and putting up them numbers.

I myself was in the camp of a seasoned OC, so Arthur Smith or Kliff Kingsbury were acceptable alternatives though I was willing to give Grubb a shot, and still am but that good will is weening.