Five possible destinations for Geno Smith

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You may have noticed that I didn't mention Geno in my post. You know why? Because I wasn't commenting on Geno. I was commenting on the OLine.

As I said, the OLine needs to be fixed regardless of who the QB is.

You might be fine with continuing to roll with one of the worst offensive lines in the league, but we're almost certainly not going anywhere if we continue to have a bottom 5 OLine year after year, regardless of who the QB is.
They've been trying to fix the OL for the last three years and they will continue to do so.

However.... The money saved from not paying Geno could go a long way in that regard.

Like I said, draft a QB on a 5-year rookie contract and bring in a vet like Zach Wilson on the cheap.

The worst-case scenario is paying Geno 30 million to draft at 10 or above next season.
 

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If they somehow move on from geMEH, release Tyler and trade DK?
That would be a ridiculous chunk of cap added. I hope DK sticks around, but unless he signs an extension that moves some money down the road, may have to consider a trade.
 

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For me, 2022 is the outlier year for Geno. If he can reach that again it would be great. He threw for 30 tds that season. So far it’s been the outlier relative to that specific statistic.

On the other hand, he set personal and franchise single season records for attempts, completions, completion percentage and yards last year, with a bottom 5 rushing attack!
 

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They've been trying to fix the OL for the last three years and they will continue to do so.

However.... The money saved from not paying Geno could go a long way in that regard.

Like I said, draft a QB on a 5-year rookie contract and bring in a vet like Zach Wilson on the cheap.

The worst-case scenario is paying Geno 30 million to draft at 10 or above next season.
Who'd you have in mind drafting?
 
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If they somehow move on from geMEH, release Tyler and trade DK?
That would be a ridiculous chunk of cap added. I hope DK sticks around, but unless he signs an extension that moves some money down the road, may have to consider a trade.
Now, that's some decisive GMing, cut Geno and Lockett, trade DK. Only HOF, visionary general managers dare to make moves like this one.
 

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They've been trying to fix the OL for the last three years and they will continue to do so.

However.... The money saved from not paying Geno could go a long way in that regard.

Like I said, draft a QB on a 5-year rookie contract and bring in a vet like Zach Wilson on the cheap.

The worst-case scenario is paying Geno 30 million to draft at 10 or above next season.
The problem with that is that it would result with a very poor record and could cost the GM and coaching staff their jobs. So why would the GM and coaching staff do that?
 

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The problem with that is that it would result with a very poor record and could cost the GM and coaching staff their jobs. So why would the GM and coaching staff do that?
No one knows that. Qb's surpass expectations all the time. Sam Darnold for example. Seemed to work out well for Minnesota. We will never know if we never try.
 

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Who'd you have in mind drafting?
Personally.... I hope the Seahawks draft a QB based on the tried and true seven-point criteria.

1. Size (6'2"+ 210lb+)
2. Arm Strength
3. Mobility
4. Processing speed
5. Football IQ
6. Health
7. Leadership

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Just a couple of personnel changes on the line and a coaching change shouldn't net such an improvement. Let's just be honest about it. It's the QB. They went from 4 wins a year ago to the NFCCG this season. Biggest change and factor for them,,,,Jayden Daniels. They wouldn't be in the same position with Howell.

Sometimes you just have to take a chance.
Sure
 

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Um, Russ who? Daniels ran a pretty smart offense crafted by Kingsbury.

Russ just ran around.

Good lord. So now Daniels, Geno, Howell, and whoever are all better than Russ (the best QB the franchise ever had).

Your on a roll Keas.
 

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He brings up good points and all that. And I'll give him serious credit for digging in. He's passionate about his belief in Geno. Even if it seems way over the top. Then again, my so called "hate" for Geno is over the top. So, it evens out. Geno has been a little above average his entire time here. Stats won't change that. To ME.
 

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You seem bitter and unbelieving. So you think the Commanders would be in the same position with Howell as their QB?
I dont even understand how you manage to pull Howell into this.

You do know that Bienemy was so bad in Washington that he wasnt even offered a job in the NFL in 24. And thats after being the OC under Reid.

Going back to the Russ days your view of offense seems to hinge entirely and exclusively on qb. When we were good, it was all Russ. When we were bad it was the o line and Pete being too conservative.

Yet with Geno, we have had worse o line play, no run game (Russ had top 10 run games with the exception of 1 year), and until this year, league worst defense. But somehow its all on Geno. There was zero evidence when Schotty was here that HE or his playcalling was the issue, yet that didn't sway you from elevating Russ and criticizing everything around him. Now, GENO is the source of all evil, despite everything around him having been PROVEN to be flawed.

As to Washington, if you know football or even talk to a fan of Washington, as much as they see Daniels as a revelation, they will also tell you that Klingsbury has been a master at crafting a scheme in Washington that is perfectly tailored to his personnel and his rookie superstar. In Washinton, the OC is first and foremost at the top of his craft. Even when he was in AZ, despite failing as a HC, he still solidified his place as one of the top playcallers in the league by virtue of how intelligent his scheme was. And because he is so goodhe is able to get the most out of each position group and for the QB, create a safe plan from which to operate, maximizing Daniel's incredible skill, with a scheme that puts him within a high functioning system.

So as to your question, which has nothing to do with getting at the reality of the complexity of the team sport that football is, no, I dont think Howell would have Washington in the championship game. I also dont think if you swap Grubb for Klingsbury, they are in the championship game... not in a million years. Nor do i think Daniels would have Seattle in the championship game if he were our qb.

Football is infintely more complex a game - from multiple elements on the field needing to work well together, to quality leadership and sound strategy being required to maximize talent - than the oversimplified, intentionally dismissive (and transparently biased) stance you seem always bent on taking.
 

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Um, Russ who? Daniels ran a pretty smart offense crafted by Kingsbury.

Russ just ran around.
Yeah that's not how I see it. Russ didn't just run around and why is it every super pro Geno supporter tries to convince us Russ wasn't any good? Im not being snarky I just find it interesting that seems to be the case.

Daniels loves the deep shots and looks to run when nothing is open. They're both super efficient passers too as was Russ despite people claiming he only ran around and threw moon balls.

Early Russ was easily the best QB in Seahawks history and its not remotely close.
 

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Come on. Russ just ran around? Yeah, ok :ROFLMAO: :unsure: :rolleyes:

He also just won.......... A LOT. Cold blooded killer much of his time here. geDIOCRE has NEVER been even in the same conversation as Russ when it comes to being clutch. gePICK has a bunch of game winning drives against crap teams, along with no playoff wins. But.....stats.
If he starts doing it against ELITE teams, I'll believe. And I hope he does.
 
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