Five possible destinations for Geno Smith

[SuperSonic67]

Seahawks have all the leverage here…either he signs a 2 year extension on their terms, play out the current contract and become an unrestricted FA at almost 37, or hold out and we go another direction entirely

 

[Shane Falco]

I got a fever and the only prescription is MORE COWBELL!!

OMFG - funniest SNL skit ever. Well, top 5 anyhow

Funny, I just seen that the other day. Hilarious.

 

[Appyhawk]

Dude its only going to get worse

I can envision a possibility the Seahawks throw up their hands and being without Geno, DK, and Lockett during this offseason. What would we do with our cap savings? One thing I do NOT think we will do is strike gold on a QB in the draft this year.

 

[Chuckwow]

Geno is under contract for 2025. Why would they release him? If team management wants to move on from him they could get something in trade for him. A 4th or maybe a 3rd could conceivably be gotten for him. Like him or not, he’s easily better than half of the starting QBs in 2024. At this point, he’s too valuable to release, and has some trade value.

As unpopular as this may be, I think he’ll hold out if he doesn’t get a serious bump. He’s played ball with us before so I have no empirical evidence for my above stated belief, it’s a gut thing and of course the team is at least considering this as a possibility.

Not knocking Geno. I don’t see us doing any better right now. And I’ll never blame a guy, soon to be retired, for attempting to get all he can. But yeah, like a previous poster said, we could be in for a crazy ass year.

Per usual .

 

[Ozzy]

As unpopular as this may be, I think he’ll hold out if he doesn’t get a serious bump. He’s played ball with us before so I have no empirical evidence for my above stated belief, it’s a gut thing and of course the team is at least considering this as a possibility.

Not knocking Geno. I don’t see us doing any better right now. And I’ll never blame a guy, soon to be retired, for attempting to get all he can. But yeah, like a previous poster said, we could be in for a crazy ass year.

Per usual .

Fully agree won’t blame Geno at all and he should try to get what he can.

 

[Seahawk_Dan]

As unpopular as this may be, I think he’ll hold out if he doesn’t get a serious bump. He’s played ball with us before so I have no empirical evidence for my above stated belief, it’s a gut thing and of course the team is at least considering this as a possibility.

Not knocking Geno. I don’t see us doing any better right now. And I’ll never blame a guy, soon to be retired, for attempting to get all he can. But yeah, like a previous poster said, we could be in for a crazy ass year.

Per usual .

If he holds then I say show him the door. He wants more money? Totally respect that, but in terms of the team needs and the rebuild of Oline and whatever vision MM has for the defense, overpaying for Geno is not the way to go.

 

[keasley45]

I might be changing my mind on Geno. He IS a Top 5 QB and IS worth 50+ million a year!!! He needs to hold out and get his $$$$!

His agent should hire KEasley to prove that every single loss, every single interception and every single incompletion and sack IS NOT HIS FAULT. If only he had a different OC and a better line and better RBs, TEs and WRs he would have a perfect passer rating, an undefeated record and multiple Super Bowl wins!!,

Hold out Geno! You are THE BEST. Don’t let anyone tell you different. $50 million or bust!

Thats cool how you take my words and misrepresent them.

29th ranked run game
27th ranked o line
2 fired coordinators

How good do you think he should be?

Goff just saw about half the pressure our line gives up an sank a franchise with 3 ints and a fumble.

But its cool. Get used to him being your qb. I'm not the only one who sees the logic in it.

 

[Double Tribble]

So many here say we're not going to do any better than Geno. Well how do we know if we never try? I would rather try and fail over and over again rather than settle for mediocrity every year. That's what we did before Russ. We kept trying, and then we hit the jackpot. The status quo gets us nowhere. Actually, it moves us backwards, because when we're treading water, other teams are moving forward, leaving us in the dust. I for one am tired of eating dust.

 

[Aircrew]

Maybe he brings both in to compete

Oh, you're just talking dirty now.

 

[JayhawkMike]

Funny how bad teams with rookie QBs like Commanders this year and Texans last year have far more post season success than the Seahawks with Geno.

"But but but we might have a DOWN year and not be at least mediocre for a year! ONE or TWO players away!!!" It is bullshit and this forever mediocre treadmill needs to end.

Get rid of Mr. Mediocre AND John Schneider. Have a down year. Get a top QB on a rookie deal and prosper.

 

[keasley45]

I just read that completion % is one of the worst correlated stats for a QB to success. Combined with a low ADOT and the league average is higher as well I’m sure it’s as big of a deal as people are making it out to be. EPA has 3x the correlation to wins which Geno ranks in the bottom 3rd.

I was told completion % is more important than touchdown numbers which is ridiculous.

Across 3 seasons, its not s throwaway stat. Just as accuracy isnt, % bad throws, success under pressure isnt.

29th ranked run game game
27th ranked o line
Fired offensive coordinators

How good should a qb in that reality be?

 

[keasley45]

Funny how bad teams with rookie QBs like Commanders this year and Texans last year have far more post season success than the Seahawks with Geno.

"But but but we might have a DOWN year and not be at least mediocre for a year! ONE or TWO players away!!!" It is bullshit and this forever mediocre treadmill needs to end.

Get rid of Mr. Mediocre AND John Schneider. Have a down year. Get a top QB on a rookie deal and prosper.

Seattle o line 2024 - 27th
Washington o line rankings 2024 - top 10

Seattle run game rank 2024 - 29th
Washingtin run game rank 2024 - 3rd

Seattle OC - no longer employed
Washington OC - cliff kingsbury undeniably killing it all year.

Its not so 'funny' when you actually look at it...

 

[Ozzy]

Across 3 seasons, its not s throwaway stat. Just as accuracy isnt, % bad throws, success under pressure isnt.

29th ranked run game game
27th ranked o line
Fired offensive coordinators

How good should a qb in that reality be?

He’s really accurate, he still makes mistake at the worst possible times, doesn’t make enough big plays and is terrible in the red zone. Now maybe it’s all Grubbs fault and last year was an outlier like you’ve suggested. I seriously hope you’re right because it looks like we’re running it back with Geno. I’m worried age is catching up to Geno but again I hope I’m wrong

 

[Ozzy]

regardless if we keep Geno for a year or two it seems like you have to have a dual threat guy to win in the modern landscape. They need to figure out a way to get that kind of guy and as soon as possible. I think the NFC is going to be elite QB heavy as soon as next year with guys like Daniels, Penix, Williams etc.

 

[JayhawkMike]

A good Quarterback makes the O-line better.

 

[keasley45]

He’s really accurate, he still makes mistake at the worst possible times, doesn’t make enough big plays and is terrible in the red zone. Now maybe it’s all Grubbs fault and last year was an outlier like you’ve suggested. I seriously hope you’re right because it looks like we’re running it back with Geno. I’m worried age is catching up to Geno but again I hope I’m wrong

Ozzy,

Does the likelihood of making mistakes go up the worse your protection is? Does scoring go down when you have no run game?
Do you think terrible coordination on offense can negatively impacting every offensive statictical category?

The answer to all of those questions is yes. Ask Goff. He has arguably the top coordinator in the league an when the pressure got in his head... 4 turnovers when he needed to be clutch.

Geno in the redzone- before Grubb was 33 TD to 2INt.

Geno in the most critical moments set the league record for comebacks and finished with the 2nd best mark this year

Did he toss some bad picks? Yes. Absolutely.

Was the offense he was running prone to being beaten and shown to be ineffective? Yes.

I honestly don't get why its so difficult to look at the complete picture of how bad things have been on offense here over three years , qb aside, and say ' ok. Yeah... lets just get the qb some reasonable support for once and see what we can do.' Because we havent had anywhere close to that.

 

[Titus Pullo]

Ozzy,

Does the likelihood of making mistakes go up the worse your protection is? Does scoring go down when you have no run game?
Do you think terrible coordination on offense can negatively impacting every offensive statistical category?

The answer to all of those questions is yes. Ask Goff. He has arguably the top coordinator in the league an when the pressure got in his head... 4 turnovers when he needed to be clutch.

Geno in the redzone- before Grubb was 33 TD to 2INt.

Geno in the most critical moments set the league record for comebacks and finished with the 2nd best mark this year

Did he toss some bad picks? Yes. Absolutely.

Was the offense he was running prone to being beaten and shown to be ineffective? Yes.

I honestly don't get why it's so difficult to look at the complete picture of how bad things have been on offense here over three years, qb aside, and say ' ok. Yeah... lets just get the qb some reasonable support for once and see what we can do.' Because we haven't had anywhere close to that.

I prefer a QB that is on a 5-year rookie contract or a young QB that has plenty of upside.

Use the 25+ million we save on some other positions.

Unfortunately, Geno keeps playing just good enough to keep the Seahawks from picking in the top 10 of the draft.

I want what Washington has. I want what Broncos have. I want what Texans have.

Geno is 35 and has to learn another entirely new offense this coming season. The time is now.

If you want a bridge QB, then bring in Zach Wilson on the cheap. Big arm, mobile, and still young.

Zach Wilson is better than any QB outside of the top 2 in this coming draft.

 

[Ozzy]

Ozzy,

Does the likelihood of making mistakes go up the worse your protection is? Does scoring go down when you have no run game?
Do you think terrible coordination on offense can negatively impacting every offensive statictical category?

The answer to all of those questions is yes. Ask Goff. He has arguably the top coordinator in the league an when the pressure got in his head... 4 turnovers when he needed to be clutch.

Geno in the redzone- before Grubb was 33 TD to 2INt.

Geno in the most critical moments set the league record for comebacks and finished with the 2nd best mark this year

Did he toss some bad picks? Yes. Absolutely.

Was the offense he was running prone to being beaten and shown to be ineffective? Yes.

I honestly don't get why its so difficult to look at the complete picture of how bad things have been on offense here over three years , qb aside, and say ' ok. Yeah... lets just get the qb some reasonable support for once and see what we can do.' Because we havent had anywhere close to that.

We have looked at the complete picture. I just don’t think a lot of the bad decisions Geno makes are because he’s under duress. It’s actually a compliment to him. A lot of his mistakes are just at weird times where he makes a terrible decision. Again I think he’s a good QB. After the elite guys there are about 10 guys who are really close to each other and he’s in that group. He’s average to slightly above average and yes if things around him were better he would put up better numbers.

I’m not saying he’s terrible. What I’m saying is he’s 35 or going to be next year, just doesn’t make enough big time plays and unless you have the PERFECT situation around him probably isn’t taking you to a SB. I’m ok if they keep him around a year or possibly two but only if they get their next guy. I’m dead against paying him anything more than he’s making now. Because if you do you can’t fix the things that need fixing and then it’s just stupid to have a slightly better than average QB with a bunch of holes in his mid 30’s for top 10 money which is what he wants.

Let him play out next year if he wants or at worst extend him with the easiest out possible after each year to lower the cap. Do not give him a massive raise thinking he’s taking you to a SB

 

[Ozzy]

I laid get the argument for Geno. We won 10 with a lot of things going wrong. So running it back, attacking the line etc and we may be a 12+!win team. I just worry Geno is at the age cliff that gets almost everyone and maybe that already played a factor last year. Thats my worry

 

[hawkfan68]

He’s really accurate, he still makes mistake at the worst possible times, doesn’t make enough big plays and is terrible in the red zone. Now maybe it’s all Grubbs fault and last year was an outlier like you’ve suggested. I seriously hope you’re right because it looks like we’re running it back with Geno. I’m worried age is catching up to Geno but again I hope I’m wrong

For me, 2022 is the outlier year for Geno. If he can reach that again it would be great. He threw for 30 tds that season. So far it’s been the outlier relative to that specific statistic.