Bruce Irvin

[Chukarhawk]

Not seeing a lot from this guy lately. Not sure what were paying him but next year we will have some pretty tough decsions to make and I'd cut him in a heartbeat if it meant we can keep a Sherm or a Bennett.

 

[jlwaters1]

ridiculous. Why would you cut a starting Lber? He's still under contract for 2 more years. Give the guy time to develop. Furthermore his money is mostly if not all guaranteed so it would make no difference if he was cut.

 

[Seaswab]

Dumb idea, he's not making anything. Although you're right, he was crowned after the St. Louis game and he's been nonexistent ever since.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Cut Irvin??? Please put down the bong.

 

[jblaze]

Gotta give him time to develop. I think he has the skills and speed to play at a high level but he's learning. He also loves the spot as opposed to being strictly a passing down rushing end specialist. We did use a high pick on him and we haven't necessarily gotten that type of output from him but I think it just takes time. He'll be a good coverage LB in our system.

 

[tdigitee]

Huh? I agree on the development: this is only his second year in the NFL, and his first at LB.

I *am* interested to hear how he's been doing overall from people who watch the games closely - I don't get to see much of the games (RedZone) but have seen him make some solid plays this season.

 

[Chukarhawk]

If we dont save any money, then keep him. he has been pretty invisible was my point and we need to start looking at making sacrifices.

 

[CANHawk]

$1.2 next year. It's not exactly the deal of the century that be Russell or Sherman, but really it's not a TON of money for a starter. Bruce has been pretty good IMO and has a lot of upside. I wouldn't be too quick to dump him to save a few bucks. 2 sacks, a pick and 40 tackles (and he missed the first 4 games). Sure it's not pro bowl production, but that's not a terrible year for his first year at the position. That and I can't really remember him being terribly exploited at any time in against the pass. That was my biggest concern given he used to play DE last year.

No. I disagree. There's other places we can carve cash besides Irvin. Though of course if it comes right down to a choice of Sherman or Irvin, it's an easy choice... but I don't necessarily think it does.

But if we're looking for a new whipping boy, Bruce has big shoulders. he can take it...

 

[FargoHawk]

If we dont save any money, then keep him. he has been pretty invisible was my point and we need to start looking at making sacrifices.

So, let me get this straight. You don't know how much it would save us but you think he should be cut? Great idea!

 

[oldhawkfan]

I love it when people want to cut someone when there is no viable replacement in place. This is why fans are not allowed to be GMs.

 

[Basis4day]

What do you need to see from the SAM to impress you? The DLine and Dbacks were on fire against NY, making plays by LBs less noticeable. Hes been playing solid. His cap number is 2.5 million and 2.9 million in 2014 and 2015. You'd save only 1.6 million if you cut him after 2014. That's how much you'd save if you cut Jon Ryan.

Want to not be impressed by a LB? Go watch Aaron Curry tape.

 

[jblaze]

I think Rice, Clemons and Miller maybe get dropped while we try to resign Sherman, Thomas, Tate, Baldwin and Bennett.

May not be enough cuts though. Cap looks like it's going to be around $126.3m when it was $123m this year. Plus we get to carry over any leftover cap from this and I believe we have a couple mil to carry over as well.

 

[Sgt. Largent]

Pretty shortsighted to think Irvin isn't playing well just because he doesn't have a bunch of sacks this year.

Notice how the other team's RB's and TE's aren't catching a lot of balls against us? That's because Irvin has them blanketed out in coverage. A role he's just learning btw. Also notice how the other team's RB's aren't getting to the edge on Irvin's side very often? That's because he's doing a fantastic job of outside containment forcing the RB's back inside to get crushed by our interior lineman.

PS. Irvin's interception against the Rams? C'mon, LB/Lineman just DON'T make that play. He can.

 

[hawk45]

OP admitted he wasn't sure what Bruce was making. He said he'd cut him IF that meant being able to keep Bennett or Sherman and I suspect we'd all agree with that. Turns out Bruce isn't making that much, so it's not really going to come down to keeping Bruce vs. keeping someone else.

I don't see how the original post reads as "cut him now."

 

[ImTheScientist]

What is wrong with people these days.

 

[Basis4day]

OP admitted he wasn't sure what Bruce was making. He said he'd cut him IF that meant being able to keep Bennett or Sherman and I suspect we'd all agree with that. Turns out Bruce isn't making that much, so it's not really going to come down to keeping Bruce vs. keeping someone else.

I don't see how the original post reads as "cut him now."

Since Bennett is on a 1 year deal, the FO would need to start figuring out ways to keep him now. I don't think they will be able to.

 

[jblaze]

OP admitted he wasn't sure what Bruce was making. He said he'd cut him IF that meant being able to keep Bennett or Sherman and I suspect we'd all agree with that. Turns out Bruce isn't making that much, so it's not really going to come down to keeping Bruce vs. keeping someone else.

I don't see how the original post reads as "cut him now."

Since Bennett is on a 1 year deal, the FO would need to start figuring out ways to keep him now. I don't think they will be able to.

I agree. I think he took a lesser one year deal to play for the big pay day in 2014 which he will likely get from someone else willing to overpay for a dynamic DT/DE.

However, it was weird to watch the collusion in free agency last year. Due to the CBA, no one was really willing to pay top dollar for anyone outside of Revis. It almost seemed like all the owners got together and price fixed the baselines and everyone had to settle for shorter smaller deals. I think it's pretty obvious when everyone keeps outbidding everyone else that it just ends up hurting everyone in the end.

 

[Sarlacc83]

OP admitted he wasn't sure what Bruce was making. He said he'd cut him IF that meant being able to keep Bennett or Sherman and I suspect we'd all agree with that. Turns out Bruce isn't making that much, so it's not really going to come down to keeping Bruce vs. keeping someone else.

I don't see how the original post reads as "cut him now."

The problem with the OP is that it's uninformed and as such should've been researched. When researched, it wouldn't have been posted because the OP would've realized how stupid it would make him look. No to mention also looking incredibly lazy.

 

[seabowl]

Anyone that knows me here knows that I hated the selection of Irvin last year. My reasoning was that he was too raw and would need a ton of coaching. I know due to his suspension and now a position change he has been hampered but at this point in his career he has to be considered a disappointment even with his sacks from last year. IMO next year is make or break for Bruce.

 

[Throwdown]

Didn't he light Graham up and cause him to drop the ball? Bruce is fine, he's not a fatal flaw, not even a flaw. He's doing his job.

Cut him? Give me a damn break.