MacDonald riding with Geno

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I don't believe this is correct. If Wilson has anything to do with this debate at all, it's only because some people were shouting how much better the team was with Geno running the offense. It's as if Geno should never have sat behind Russ. Any sane fan knows Wilson was done at that point as he's proved ever since then, but the act of Geno always being a better option is criminal. It's almost as if some anoited Geno as the greatest QB the franchise ever had because he broke a record or two with an extra game to do so. That is why there is some kickback among some fans. Its unrealistic. It's not about the love for Wilson, it's about the hate.
Yeah I think it’s actually the opposite more often than Toffees theory. I think people hate Russ so much they became bigger fans of Geno because he was who came when their hated player left. They want Geno to be elite.

For half a season he looked like it. For another season he looked good. Last year he was below average. He could easily revert back to when he played at a top 10 level. I just think he’s trending the wrong way and is only getting older so it’s not likely. Toffee thinks this is purely an emotional response. I think objectively it matches what we’ve seen historically across the league. Time will tell.
 

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The Rams are thinking of dumping Stafford and Kupp. Does that mean they are not trying to win? No but at the same time there is more than one way to win in the NFL. So my position on Geno has been clear. Geno is the game manager and distributor of the football to some of the best skill players assembled in the NFL which happen to be Seahawks. Not many teams are this deep at WR and RB for example and Fant/Barner are still under contract with room to add another talented TE to the mix.

Can the team win without Geno? Yes, but if Geno is on a friendly cap contract then he is welcomed back with open arms. But team building is a team endeavor and if a QB starts to take up too much cap space then teams are forced to investigate alternatives.

I just think the idea that a top five QB would help the Hawks is not reality because the Bengals had an elite edge rusher and QB along with other talented players. But the Bengals trenches were so flawed on both sides of the ball and the best they could do is come close to .500 ball.

And honestly you can probably play .500 ball with a team full of stud trench players and no highly paid skill players for the fraction of the cost of a team full of star skill players.
 

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He has to say that when asked. None of it matters because Geno can sit out if he doesn’t get top 10 money like he said he deserves and apparently some fans in here think he should get.

This proves nothing imo and it all boils down to the contract stuff
 

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He has to say that when asked. None of it matters because Geno can sit out if he doesn’t get top 10 money like he said he deserves and apparently some fans in here think he should get.

This proves nothing imo and it all boils down to the contract stuff
He doesn't have to say this in the way that he says it. His praise is fairly effusive compared to his usual nature, and if the team truly was unsure about Geno, it's incredibly easy to coach-speak a statement about the virtues of competition.

Pelissero said very recently that the team appears to be all in on Geno for 2025 and is expected to address his contract to compensate him more appropriately. Obviously, they'd be doing so in a manner that allows them to continue searching for a long-term option as Smith is aging.



This isn't something a team does for a quarterback they don't actually want, or a quarterback they view as being of an uncompetitive caliber. He's not Gardner Minshew or Marcus Mariota.

The team obviously genuinely has a very high opinion of Geno and wants to roll with him for now while looking for that next 10-15 year face of the franchise.
 

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He has to say that when asked. None of it matters because Geno can sit out if he doesn’t get top 10 money like he said he deserves and apparently some fans in here think he should get.

This proves nothing imo and it all boils down to the contract stuff
This.

While I think Geno can be a Top 10 QB, no one beats Father Time. He’s not geriatric but, we’ve seen his ceiling.

With the right pieces in place, that ceiling is more than good enough to propel this team towards some playoff wins.

Geno will be going for some serious $$$ for sure.

While I think Geno is our best option next year, I don’t think he’s who I would roll with past that. A 1-2 year extension wouldn’t be so bad (unless it’s $50M+). Perhaps draft a QB to sit behind him for a season or two…unless we think Howell is it (I don’t).

There is the possibility of this being Geno’s last season as a Hawk. If we’re thinking along those lines, we may see a big trade this offseason while we hit the ‘reset’ button.
 

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This.

While I think Geno can be a Top 10 QB, no one beats Father Time. He’s not geriatric but, we’ve seen his ceiling.

With the right pieces in place, that ceiling is more than good enough to propel this team towards some playoff wins.

Geno will be going for some serious $$$ for sure.

While I think Geno is our best option next year, I don’t think he’s who I would roll with past that. A 1-2 year extension wouldn’t be so bad (unless it’s $50M+). Perhaps draft a QB to sit behind him for a season or two…unless we think Howell is it (I don’t).

There is the possibility of this being Geno’s last season as a Hawk. If we’re thinking along those lines, we may see a big trade this offseason while we hit the ‘reset’ button.
I think I’ve come around to this as well. He’s probably out best option next year but I want something else after that
 

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Now that Kenny Pickett is a SB champion, maybe Schneider can make a trade for him? lol
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He doesn't have to say this in the way that he says it. His praise is fairly effusive compared to his usual nature, and if the team truly was unsure about Geno, it's incredibly easy to coach-speak a statement about the virtues of competition.

Pelissero said very recently that the team appears to be all in on Geno for 2025 and is expected to address his contract to compensate him more appropriately. Obviously, they'd be doing so in a manner that allows them to continue searching for a long-term option as Smith is aging.



This isn't something a team does for a quarterback they don't actually want, or a quarterback they view as being of an uncompetitive caliber. He's not Gardner Minshew or Marcus Mariota.

The team obviously genuinely has a very high opinion of Geno and wants to roll with him for now while looking for that next 10-15 year face of the franchise.

Bad teams lock up mid level QB's in thier mid to late 30's. I don't think Seattle wants to either and what he said doesn't change that all. What else would he say? He may have to roll with Geno for another year whether he wants to or not. He's not Minshew or Mariota sure, but he's not a top 12 guy either so he's a middling QB entering the twilight of his career.

They also floated out to teams they would take trade offers for him.....that's also not something teams do if they are all in on Geno.

I'm ok with Geno for this year even if its not the way I would go. They may not have a choice but I will be shocked if he is the guy in 2026. Absolutely shocked.
 

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In total, the Seahawks have drafted 16 quarterbacks not named Russell Wilson, with the best maybe being Huard or Seneca Wallace. It's bad enough that our extra first rounders in the RW trade were not packaged to draft a QB.
Sometimes I wonder if we are just too gunshy to reach for one or if JS doesn't have the guts or expertise to identify one and follow through with the price.
I know our history of not good enough for the playoffs and not bad enough for a high pick are part of the problem.

Fix the O-line and draft a QB.
 

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What is coach supposed to say? Coaches won't just come out and say they want to move on from a guy. I suspect he'll be back, but nothing is etched in stone in the NFL.
 

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