How good is Geno?

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wow what ever floats your boat. sorry I wasn't more precise for you with my typing on a phone while watching something else.
You must have one boring life when you need to find fun in someone hitting a t next to the r on a ******* phone. with my big fingers.

Man this is why I cant stand social media.

D00d, it was a joke. I honestly thought you'd think it was funny.
I've made typos too, and then made jokes when the typos made it look like I was saying something different from what I had actually said. I sincerely didn't even imagine you'd get upset about the joke. I really thought you'd think it was funny too. My intent was not to troll, but just to make a joke.

Your response is really surprising to me. I wasn't putting you down in any way. Go back and re-read my post. See if you can see that it's not any kind of an attack on you.

This specific typo was awesome because the "Y" in "Yeats" (very obviously s'posed to be "years") ended up capitalized, giving me an extra-great opportunity to twist some W.B. Yeats poems into marginally Seahawks-related material. It's with some shame that I admit that "The Second Coming" and "Sailing to Byzantium" are the only two Yeats poems I remember at all. In my own defense, I think the last time I read Yeats for a class was in the 1980s, no later than (northern-hemisphere) spring of 1988.
 

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The one thing that Geno has in his corner is that Pete Carroll has seen just about every situation imaginable. How a QB should deal with success, how a QB should deal with adversity along with everything in between.

Like you said Waldron is a brilliant OC that makes his job easier. Geno has the talent around him, now all he has to do is exicute his preparation i just want to see him do it against KC the Niners and the Rams. Clearly in the last 2 games we have seen how he deals with adversity after throwing picks... total domination!

I want to see how Geno reacts to being down in a game and bringing his team back from a deficit. So far he has been playing from a lead

You can clearly see his confidance level growing by leaps and bounds.

Its going to be an interesting finish to this season. Can Geno finish the season with the consistancy he has shown in the last 4 games?

I think the whole team have things to prove and they are proving it week end and week out.

This has been a hell of a season and its fun to watch
Geno had to come from behind against the Saints and did.

He had to come from behind against the Lions and did.

He had to come from behind against the Cardinals and did.

Against the Saints, they were down by multiple scores and he brought us back to take the lead in the 3rd or 4th qtr. His needing to do it over and over again (and ultimately failing on the last drive against NO) isnt an indictment on him as much as it was a defense that couldn't hold a lead on 2 or three occassions that Geno and the O gave it to them.

I guess if you are making the case that he has to do it when we are down by multiple scores in the 4th and we take the lead on a game winning drive... ok?. But he absolutely has not been gifted a lead and just built on it. He was a huge part of the reason we won against the Lions. He WAS the reason we were ever in the lead against the Saints. And in Zona, He led consecutive drives that were perfect on 3rd down conversions, controlled the clock and ended in TD's after Arizona took the lead.
 

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Geno would play for free to be fully vindicated. Tell me. What is the threshold for vindication? Does he have to win the Super Bowl? Win MVP? Permanently get the starting job? Play in the pro bowl? At what point does he become disappointed if he hasn't met this vindication criteria? Is he even close to it yet? Is he in for a big potential letdown because the bar is too high? Explain this vindication to me because apparently, a nice retirement is NOT vindication. So, I need enlightened.
Please go drink some more. Another dick head taking a simple post and making it into something to prove their intellectuality.

Another post that makes me want to quite this site. Childish dick head response needing to prove themselves though trolling rubbish.

Just what the F did my simple post trigger in you that you needed to respond in such a sarcastic way?? No don't answer it please.

OK, the comment (from @Mick063) to which you (@Rainger) were replying here does actually attack your argument and even you, and it has a very sarcastic tone. I think your reply is still a little heavy-handed, but less inappropriate than the way you went after me for making a joke about what was obviously a typo (and I even said that in my comment) and wasn't in any way an attack on you or your position.

Joking around is part of what we do here. It's part of any healthy informal conversation. In the last couple of days, somebody said in a thread about the Cardinals game that if Carroll were as great as some of us say he is, he would have run the ball in himself (I think on Walker's final rushing TD, but I'm not 100% sure and won't go look it up now). Somebody else asked who that first somebody thought would be a better choice to replace Carroll. Even though it wasn't completely clear if that reply was a joke asking who else might run the ball into the end zone instead of Carroll or a more-serious question about who would be a better choice than Carroll to be head coach (I think it was the latter, but I'm not completely sure), I made a joke about Schneider and Hurtt having more-appropriate builds for the task of running the ball into the end zone in a short-yardage situation, and everyone understood it was a joke. Not many people found it funny enough to "like" or "laugh"-react to it, but nobody got offended because, just like in the case of the joke I just made about your typo, it was clear I wasn't attacking anyone. I was just being silly, which is part of friendly conversations about any subject, including football, whether those conversations are held in person or via a web forum.

You don't have to share my sense of humor. You might not think it's funny, and that's fine. I'm weird, and I always have been. For most of the time since 1976, I've been the only Seahawks fan I know. And my nerdy-ass sense of humor is very odd, so many, many people don't find funny the same things I do. I'm totally comfortable with that. I see lots of jokes here from other .NET denizens that just aren't funny to me, but I know they are to whomever it was that posted them. Each of us has his own sense of humor, and what different people find funny varies tremendously. However, I don't see any reason for you to have felt like you were being attacked by my moment of silliness, which your heavy-handed response indicates you did.

As I said in my previous comment, I really thought you'd think it was funny too. I didn't even get close to imagining you'd be offended. And it's not that I don't think about those things. Yesterday, I caught another .NET denizen saying he thought all along that Smith would be better than Wilson, and I found his comment from August in which he made it clear he didn't think Smith should even be a starting QB in the NFL. I hesitated before posting the comment in which I called him out on that, because I knew he was very likely to get upset with me for pointing out that what he said in August was not even remotely similar to "Smith will be better than Wilson." I'm still not 100% sure I was right to point it out. So I do think about those things. And in this case, I thought you would reply, but I thought you'd play along with the joke and laugh about the typo. My intent was just to joke around with a fellow Seahawks fan, and I really believed you'd find what I did with your typo at least mildly amusing, and even if you didn't, I didn't think it was even remotely likely that you'd get offended and reply the way you did.

You might want to apply to yourself a variation of the same question you just asked of @Mick063. Why such anger in response to my comment, which was obviously a joke and not an attack on you or your arguments at all in any way, and even why such anger in your reply to @Mick063's comment in which he sarcastically disagreed with you?
 
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Please go drink some more. Another ******** taking a simple post and making it into something to prove their intellectuality.

Another post that makes me want to quite this site. Childish ********* response needing to prove themselves though trolling rubbish.

Just what the F did my simple post trigger in you that you needed to respond in such a sarcastic way?? No don't answer it please.
The reason I replied in the manner that I did is because this is the third time you have chosen to respond to me specifically to contradict for the sake of contradiction. With no solid reasoning behind it. Just to say, "whatever you say, I am against it". When called out on it, you collapse into a juvenile fit with no reasonable counter argument beyond name calling. That is how I perceive your track record, not only with me, but with others here as well. Like you have chosen some specific opponents to find opportunity for attack. I have grown tired of it. The last thing I want, or need is some type of attention competition with a person like you.

Please find an example of how I have responded to ANYONE else on this forum in this manner. Trust me, you earned the response that hurt your feelings with multiple aggressive replies from YOU in the past. It didn't take much more to set me off.

I am merely pointing out that if you choose to single out a person for verbal warfare, that you choose your potential opponents more carefully. Your sensitivities obviously cannot coexist with your aggressiveness. This is a typical bully behavior pattern. Aggressive until you are the victim. I have also reported your post. It adds absolutely no value to this thread, and it is certainly not representative of this forum community. You sir, are not a good ambassador for Seahawk football or for the twelves.

You do realize that you are hurting your "cause" more than you are helping it. Right? When you come out with something as bold as "I could not disagree more" you are basically throwing down the debate gauntlet. OK....so let's debate. You boldly challenged. Now defeat me. The right way. Not the childish way.
 
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A few Yeats?



W.B.Y. appears to be concerned about somebody's age. It might be Carroll, or it might be Smith. Checkitout:


I know it was just a typo, but it's funny to me. I'm a math-and-science nerd, but I used to be a literature nerd too. Sorry (not very sorry). Back to football now.
I thought it was funny too. My brain immediately said, "What about Keats?"
 

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Geno had to come from behind against the Saints and did.

He had to come from behind against the Lions and did.

He had to come from behind against the Cardinals and did.

Against the Saints, they were down by multiple scores and he brought us back to take the lead in the 3rd or 4th qtr. His needing to do it over and over again (and ultimately failing on the last drive against NO) isnt an indictment on him as much as it was a defense that couldn't hold a lead on 2 or three occassions that Geno and the O gave it to them.

I guess if you are making the case that he has to do it when we are down by multiple scores in the 4th and we take the lead on a game winning drive... ok?. But he absolutely has not been gifted a lead and just built on it. He was a huge part of the reason we won against the Lions. He WAS the reason we were ever in the lead against the Saints. And in Zona, He led consecutive drives that were perfect on 3rd down conversions, controlled the clock and ended in TD's after Arizona took the lead.
It's a simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball...
 

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Think we are on the same page Geno is the perfect fit while PC uses his draft capital from the 1st or 2nd biggest fleecing of another nfl team in trade history. Another huge draft next year and this team with or without Geno will be looking at 2 or 3 SB runs.
Geno has been playing at MVP level, and some media talking heads are acknowledging it. Analytically he is top 5 if not top 3. Geno is the MVP of Seahawks, without him we won't be 6-3.
 

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OK, the comment (from @Mick063) to which you (@Rainger) were replying here does actually attack your argument and even you, and it has a very sarcastic tone. I think your reply is still a little heavy-handed, but less inappropriate than the way you went after me for making a joke about what was obviously a typo (and I even said that in my comment) and wasn't in any way an attack on you or your position.

Joking around is part of what we do here. It's part of any healthy informal conversation. In the last couple of days, somebody said in a thread about the Cardinals game that if Carroll were as great as some of us say he is, he would have run the ball in himself (I think on Walker's final rushing TD, but I'm not 100% sure and won't go look it up now). Somebody else asked who that first somebody thought would be a better choice to replace Carroll. Even though it wasn't completely clear if that reply was a joke asking who else might run the ball into the end zone instead of Carroll or a more-serious question about who would be a better choice than Carroll to be head coach (I think it was the latter, but I'm not completely sure), I made a joke about Schneider and Hurtt having more-appropriate builds for the task of running the ball into the end zone in a short-yardage situation, and everyone understood it was a joke. Not many people found it funny enough to "like" or "laugh"-react to it, but nobody got offended because, just like in the case of the joke I just made about your typo, it was clear I wasn't attacking anyone. I was just being silly, which is part of friendly conversations about any subject, including football, whether those conversations are held in person or via a web forum.

You don't have to share my sense of humor. You might not think it's funny, and that's fine. I'm weird, and I always have been. For most of the time since 1976, I've been the only Seahawks fan I know. And my nerdy-ass sense of humor is very odd, so many, many people don't find funny the same things I do. I'm totally comfortable with that. I see lots of jokes here from other .NET denizens that just aren't funny to me, but I know they are to whomever it was that posted them. Each of us has his own sense of humor, and what different people find funny varies tremendously. However, I don't see any reason for you to have felt like you were being attacked by my moment of silliness, which your heavy-handed response indicates you did.

As I said in my previous comment, I really thought you'd think it was funny too. I didn't even get close to imagining you'd be offended. And it's not that I don't think about those things. Yesterday, I caught another .NET denizen saying he thought all along that Smith would be better than Wilson, and I found his comment from August in which he made it clear he didn't think Smith should even be a starting QB in the NFL. I hesitated before posting the comment in which I called him out on that, because I knew he was very likely to get upset with me for pointing out that what he said in August was not even remotely similar to "Smith will be better than Wilson." I'm still not 100% sure I was right to point it out. So I do think about those things. And in this case, I thought you would reply, but I thought you'd play along with the joke and laugh about the typo. My intent was just to joke around with a fellow Seahawks fan, and I really believed you'd find what I did with your typo at least mildly amusing, and even if you didn't, I didn't think it was even remotely likely that you'd get offended and reply the way you did.

You might want to apply to yourself a variation of the same question you just asked of @Mick063. Why such anger in response to my comment, which was obviously a joke and not an attack on you or your arguments at all in any way, and even why such anger in your reply to @Mick063's comment in which he sarcastically disagreed with you?
Thanks for the response 2 and 1/2 bottles of wine just before bed is no excuse for missing your humor. Sorry.
 
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Geno had to come from behind against the Saints and did.

He had to come from behind against the Lions and did.

He had to come from behind against the Cardinals and did.

Against the Saints, they were down by multiple scores and he brought us back to take the lead in the 3rd or 4th qtr. His needing to do it over and over again (and ultimately failing on the last drive against NO) isnt an indictment on him as much as it was a defense that couldn't hold a lead on 2 or three occassions that Geno and the O gave it to them.

I guess if you are making the case that he has to do it when we are down by multiple scores in the 4th and we take the lead on a game winning drive... ok?. But he absolutely has not been gifted a lead and just built on it. He was a huge part of the reason we won against the Lions. He WAS the reason we were ever in the lead against the Saints. And in Zona, He led consecutive drives that were perfect on 3rd down conversions, controlled the clock and ended in TD's after Arizona took the lead.
First of all i do believe that Geno is our guy. But i think every QB in the league has something to prove. Are you saying that Geno has nothing to prove? He has won 7 games for the Hawks (i think) . We have not seen how he will handle the pressure of a playoff game we havent seen him make that game winning drive in the 4th. Maybe because he hasnt been in that situation yet. We dont know how he is going to handle the success of winning 4 in a row..

He has played well and my intention is not to down him in anyway. Im just bring forth what he has to do to be an MVP QB. Yeah I believe he will be just fine and that Pete is going to make this guy a champion. But IMO he hasnt showen enough yet there are still things he has to accomplish just like Brady the greatest QB the NFL has ever seen. He has things to prove. Are you saying he doesnt?

Better question whete do you think he needs to improve where do you think Carroll is coaching him?
 
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I still want to see him keep up this level of play, and to see how he handles success and adversity. I have a strong feeling he's going to be more than fine, but 7 games, 7 really good games, does not a career make.
 

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IMHO…
Right now he’s serviceable or slightly above.

I think he may have potential to be much more.

I would not have said that prior to seeing what he’s currently doing. I suspect that he’s grown and matured. He’s taken the opportunity to become a better student of the game. I think he has the athletic abilities to be a very good QB for the next few years.

YMMV
 

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First of all i do believe that Geno is our guy. But i think every QB in the league has something to prove. Are you saying that Geno has nothing to prove? He has won 7 games for the Hawks (i think) . We have not seen how he will handle the pressure of a playoff game we havent seen him make that game winning drive in the 4th. Maybe because he hasnt been in that situation yet. We dont know how he is going to handle the success of winning 4 in a row..

He has played well and my intention is not to down him in anyway. Im just bring forth what he has to do to be an MVP QB. Yeah I believe he will be just fine and that Pete is going to make this guy a champion. But IMO he hasnt showen enough yet there are still things he has to accomplish just like Brady the greatest QB the NFL has ever seen. He has things to prove. Are you saying he doesnt?

Better question whete do you think he needs to improve where do you think Carroll is coaching him?

I said in my post that how he handles success is an unknown. How he handles extreme adversity is an unknown. He could take it all in stride or he could flame out or decline.

But if you're asking about his game? He's 9 starts into a season where he's getting MVP notice. And on tape, his play is MVP caliber. Not perfect. But top 5 in the league. And were it not for drops on a few gimme catches from DK, and Noah, his stats would be even better. Can you nitpick certain things? Sure. He had two bad passes Sunday for example. Is that a sign of things to come? Hard for me to say yes given how he played after that.

Jury is still out. But the arrows is most every measurable category are pointing up.
 
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I said in my post that how he handles success is an unknown. How he handles extreme adversity is an unknown. He could take it all in stride or he could flame out or decline.

But if you're asking about his game? He's 9 starts into a season where he's getting MVP notice. And on tape, his play is MVP caliber. Not perfect. But top 5 in the league. And were it not for drops on a few gimme catches from DK, and Noah, his stats would be even better. Can you nitpick certain things? Sure. He had two bad passes Sunday for example. Is that a sign of things to come? Hard for me to say yes given how he played after that.

Jury is still out. But the arrows is most every measurable category are pointing up.
Im very curious to know where you think the Hawks are coaching him?
 

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If you want to know how he's doing, look at Denver--Geno's playing exactly like Wilson is supposed to be playing. Winning in the reg season against mediocre teams is how you get to the playoffs.
 
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