Video of R. Wilson runs?

[PeterMP]

I'm actually a Redskins fan and there is a lot of talk in Redskins land about the value of the read option and the QB running. As a result, somebody has gone through and put together a video of all of RGIII's designed runs (including option plays where he keeps the ball):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2UcgGAZNeo

(Note, in at least on case, it isn't an RGIII run, but an option where he pitches. I'm not sure why that play was included, but I'm really only interested in plays where the QB is the only ball carrier in a play where he was called to be the ball carrier (e.g. a QB draw) or some sort of option (including the read option) where the QB opts to keep it.)

I'd like to compare them to the same thing for Wilson. I'm interested in are there differences between the way that the Redskins use and run RGIII and the Seahawks Wilson.

(I'd also be interested in a video of all of Wilson's undesigned scrambles where it at least appears to be a pass play, but he keeps the ball and makes it past the LOS so it isn't a sack, while that hasn't been done for RGIII, I'd be willing to bet I could find somebody that would do it.)

I am curious if anybody knows of such a video or would be willing to put one together.

I would share anything that results in terms of looking for differences with this board.

Thanks

 

[HawkWow]

You Shanahans don't miss a trick.

 

[Dismas]

I don't have any video for you, but after watching the clips of Robert, I can tell you that Russell takes a small fraction of the hits that RG3 takes. I was cringing watching all the times he got plastered in your video.

If the Skins don't start doing something to minimize his contact all of those draft picks are going to be wasted while he sits on the sidelines healing.

 

[HawkWow]

I actually think Griffin will get that sorted out this year. Shanahan took a lot of heat over the injury and I sincerely believe he will do everything possible to limit Griffin's exposure.

Kaep, OTOH, I don't think will be available for the 9ers entire schedule.

 

[Steve2222]

After watching that I give him credit for lasting so long. He got drilled so much. Scary.

 

[drdiags]

PeterMP,

In case you missed this post, Les posted your question and most of the responses were more in regards to your video link.

http://seahawks.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=70156

One poster put up a link that had a few of Wilson's scrambles or RO plays but to date I haven't seen something similar for Wilson. Good luck and please share if you run across a collection like the one you have for RGIII.

 

[Smellyman]

judas priest! Does Griffin ever not take a huge shot? that was actually hard to watch. He is getting killed out there.

 

[DavidSeven]

I think the two key differences are: 1) Russell's shorter stature makes him more difficult to tackle and hit; and 2) he has much better anticipation of the "big hit" than RG3. Russell also doesn't make a ton of unnecessary cuts that leave him completely vulnerable to hits like RGIII seems to do.

Not a compilation, but here's a video of the final two drives of the Seahawks/Bears game. (This is where Seattle's use of the read option sort of took off.)

[youtube]LiMBUXRS7bw[/youtube]

EDIT: the video posted in the earlier thread will probably serve your purpose better. But the Bears video is full of awesome, so I'm leaving it.

 

[pehawk]

I hope Tanohan doesn't mess up his career. RG3's just as natural passer as he is a runner, let him do that more.

 

[CANHawk]

Jesus H. Christmas that kid takes a shitload of monster hits. If he keeps that up, he'll be out of the league in 3 years... That's one thing I really appreciate about Russ; his ability to take whatever is there and avoid the big hit. Russell is just so much smarter than rg3.

 

[SalishHawkFan]

RGIII is a completely different type of player than RW. Watching that video just highlighted that RGIII is a run first QB. Nearly all those plays he was running from the get go. RW runs, but it's out of a passing play. The read option isn't something they really do in Seattle all that much. When they do, he often doesn't take it.

Those two QB's are actually night and day different in their styles and mindsets. Can RGIII get away from his run first mentality and use his passing skills better? If not, RW will be around and leading the league long after RGIII is a footnote in history.

 

[HawkWow]

RGIII is a completely different type of player than RW. Watching that video just highlighted that RGIII is a run first QB. Nearly all those plays he was running from the get go. RW runs, but it's out of a passing play. The read option isn't something they really do in Seattle all that much. When they do, he often doesn't take it.

Those two QB's are actually night and day different in their styles and mindsets. Can RGIII get away from his run first mentality and use his passing skills better? If not, RW will be around and leading the league long after RGIII is a footnote in history.

Great points. RW takes what the defense gives him. I worry no more about him outside the pocket than in.

I've never liked Shanahan. It was he that started freezing kickers and I was happy to see that blow up in his face more than once (please resist the urge to say it blew up in Pete's face, as well. That, IMO, would be both cheap and inaccurate).

Shanahan gave up a buttload of picks to grab Griffin. He believed it was imperative that Griffin got off to a fast start...and apparently at any expense. He basically installed a college offense that Griffin would (immediately) excel in and IMO, did very little to develop Griffin as an NFL QB. I imagine that will happen this year....but maybe not. I say this because I sincerely believe Shanahan only needs Griffin to stay healthy for as long as he wants to coach.

I like the kid, I wish him no ill will, but there is zero chance I would have paid what they paid for him and I can think of a particular 3rd rounder that I would'nt trade for him either.

 

[bellingerga]

I admire his tenacity, competitive spirit, and willingness to do what it takes to win, but RG-Knee is going to have a very very short career if he doesn't learn to protect himself a little better.

I can't remember seeing Russell Wilson take any huge hits this last season, though he doesn't run as often, when he does he has an uncanny ability to spin out of hits or get down and out of the way before someone plasters him.

 

[Hawkaholic]

RGIII is a completely different type of player than RW. Watching that video just highlighted that RGIII is a run first QB. Nearly all those plays he was running from the get go. RW runs, but it's out of a passing play. The read option isn't something they really do in Seattle all that much. When they do, he often doesn't take it.

Those two QB's are actually night and day different in their styles and mindsets. Can RGIII get away from his run first mentality and use his passing skills better? If not, RW will be around and leading the league long after RGIII is a footnote in history.

Those were all designed runs FYI.

 

[sc85sis]

I think we need to remember that these aren't the only plays RGIII made last year before stating that he's a run-first guy. He might be, but I don't think this video necessarily proves or disproves that notion.

 

[JKent82]

Holy jesus, my body hurts just watching that. I kinda always assumed RGIII was a still fairly smart runner too and part of it is that we just kinda felt Russell was safer because he's ours and a god and RGIII got hurt. However RGIII is just straight fearless, and the Shanahan's are happy to take advantage of it. I'd be extremely pissed if Bevell called games like that.

Also RGIII is one gangly dude. His limbs move around like dead bodies in video games when he gets hit.

 

[bigcc]

he takes hits late in games that aren't even close, and gets drilled a couple times he hands it off


very bizarre playcalling

 

[CANHawk]

he takes hits late in games that aren't even close, and gets drilled a couple times he hands it off


very bizarre playcalling

Stupid. The word your looking for is "stupid" play calling...

 

[12thManHawkFan]

I got bored yesterday, here is what the OP asked for...

[youtube]ZhyhLCTrHQg[/youtube]

 

[Seahwkgal]

The DangeRuss video is private. It won't play.