Sherman Rumours

[vin.couve12]

SHERMAN IS ARGUABLY THE BEST CORNER OF ALL TIME... statistically. You do not just cut Deion Sanders in his prime

Sanders did not have two Achilles tendons operated in the same off season if I recall.

Ok so cut the best corner in Seahawks history, without even giving him a shot to get right ... got it

Sherman is not Deion Sanders... that's just ridiculous. Deion is one of the greatest football players ever, Sherm isn't even the greatest CB in the league... Cmon man, get real.

No, Sanders was one of the greatest cover guys ever. I've literally seen him get slapped to the ground 3 times in 1 single play. Great cover guy....HOOOOOORRIBLE football player. It's like if your little sister was lightning fast and had good hands.

 

[semiahmoo]

Sherm is in decline.

Good move.

Love for him to get a couple more healthy seasons before he puts the NFL in his rearview mirror.

Seems like just yesterday he was one of many brash young Hawks playing with something to prove.

Best of luck to him.

 

[12forlife]

SHERMAN IS ARGUABLY THE BEST CORNER OF ALL TIME... statistically. You do not just cut Deion Sanders in his prime

First off Sherm isn't in his prime. Second we haven't cut him just yet, if we can't get some descent draft pick or picks in return, then I'm sure they will give an opportunity to take a pay cut, to play out this season and let him walk next year so the can get the comp pick in 2020. This is a business, we all loved the original LOB, but this is the NFL "Not For Long"
we carried to many of these guys to long into their career with extensions & high cap hits. If we stay @ 18 and land Derwin James, Josh Jackson or Isaiah Oliver. LOB 2.0 will be under way, especially if they keep ET and with Shaq Griffin proving he is legit. I don't expect us to a SB contender this year, but this has to be done with the Rams becoming lead dog, SF now appears to have a legit QB finally, and Zona a QB away from putting us at the bottom of our own division. I have stated this in other posts, but we built the original LOB with a bunch of young talent with chips on their shoulders ala Sherm, Chancellor & Browner none of which were high draft picks. Unlike the debacle of what Cable did with our Oline over the years. Pete knows how to coach up DB's & Safties. Better days ahead.

 

[IndyHawk]

Sanders did not have two Achilles tendons operated in the same off season if I recall.

Ok so cut the best corner in Seahawks history, without even giving him a shot to get right ... got it

Sherman is not Deion Sanders... that's just ridiculous. Deion is one of the greatest football players ever, Sherm isn't even the greatest CB in the league... Cmon man, get real.

No, Sanders was one of the greatest cover guys ever. I've literally seen him get slapped to the ground 3 times in 1 single play. Great cover guy....HOOOOOORRIBLE football player. It's like if your little sister was lightning fast and had good hands.

Sanders was in fact overated somewhat..
Great cover but couldn't tackle better than my 14 year old can now seriously BUT Prime Time was
a great KO/PR when he felt like doing it(key moments) and bitched to be a WR but wasn't good
at it.
He was great at being a showman and would have loved to play in todays social media format
and he also played ML Baseball(average).
So do you take Prime Time?or RS?
With far less distractions and someone who can tackle..I take RS in his prime
Today with 2 achilles operations,11 million cap hit and past his prime it's time to say
goodbye to Dick.

 

[Str8OuttaSkittles]

So Sherm unwilling to take a pay cut, does he really think he will earn a higher salary elsewhere? Or does he just want to leave that badly?

dont understand this either i know its a business and all but man sherms made great money and with the cap issues etc i would have thought something could have been done. guess he dont wanna be here

 

[hawkfan68]

I'm disappointed that Sherman may not be a Seahawk. However, NFL is a business and what it came down was the importance of re-signing Earl Thomas. I think parting ways with Sherman means they will be bringing ET back. ET is the reason that guys like Sherman, Maxwell, Browner, Thurmond, etc thrived. They didn't have to worry about getting beat because of Earl back there. IMO, If Earl was signed, this wouldn't have happened but he's a FA and they have to keep him.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

If they thought he was going to come back 100 percent, this wouldn't even be a discussion. They must be nervous about paying a guy coming off surgery on BOTH Achilles too much of a risk at 11 mil. It sucks, but it's the reality of football. But hey, it was on Twitter, so is all must be true. Just like last year when he was going to be traded. Oh wait.....

 

[Schadie001]

This is a cap move nothing else. I have heard that Seattle is asking him to restructure his deal and will probably release him if he doesn't. Sherm could absolutely be back, given his age and injury.

This could be a matter of Seattle telling Sherm we are releasing you, (saving us a ton of cap space), go ahead test the market, if you strike gold take it, if not we have an offer on the table for you.

 

[hawksincebirth]

Sherm is in decline.

Good move.

Love for him to get a couple more healthy seasons before he puts the NFL in his rearview mirror.

Seems like just yesterday he was one of many brash young Hawks playing with something to prove.

Best of luck to him.

Per b.r.
12. Richard Sherman, Seattle Seahawks

Coverage: 20/25
Reaction: 21/25
Recovery: 18/25
Tackling: 10/15
Position Value: 10/10
Overall Grade: 79/100

After a slight decline in 2016 (it was later revealed he had been dealing with a knee injury throughout the year), Richard Sherman had a great start to the 2017 season before tearing his Achilles. He was able to play more press-man coverage this year, looking more fluid and fast in his movements as the defense evolved to be less zone-oriented. It's questionable whether Sherman will ever be the same again as he turns 30 years old this offseason and recovers from such a massive injury.

So he’s in decline because you are in the know lmao .. he played hurt all year missed games and still was the 12th ranked corner in the league :2thumbs:

 

[hawksincebirth]

SHERMAN IS ARGUABLY THE BEST CORNER OF ALL TIME... statistically. You do not just cut Deion Sanders in his prime

First off Sherm isn't in his prime. Second we haven't cut him just yet, if we can't get some descent draft pick or picks in return, then I'm sure they will give an opportunity to take a pay cut, to play out this season and let him walk next year so the can get the comp pick in 2020. This is a business, we all loved the original LOB, but this is the NFL "Not For Long"
we carried to many of these guys to long into their career with extensions & high cap hits. If we stay @ 18 and land Derwin James, Josh Jackson or Isaiah Oliver. LOB 2.0 will be under way, especially if they keep ET and with Shaq Griffin proving he is legit. I don't expect us to a SB contender this year, but this has to be done with the Rams becoming lead dog, SF now appears to have a legit QB finally, and Zona a QB away from putting us at the bottom of our own division. I have stated this in other posts, but we built the original LOB with a bunch of young talent with chips on their shoulders ala Sherm, Chancellor & Browner none of which were high draft picks. Unlike the debacle of what Cable did with our Oline over the years. Pete knows how to coach up DB's & Safties. Better days ahead.

Please provide me with any proof sherm is in decline ?? I’ll wait . Keep in mind he played Hurt all season .. still ranked #12 corner ahead of guys like trufant, Norman , talib :yawn:

 

[hawksincebirth]

SHERMAN IS ARGUABLY THE BEST CORNER OF ALL TIME... statistically. You do not just cut Deion Sanders in his prime

Sanders did not have two Achilles tendons operated in the same off season if I recall.

Ok so cut the best corner in Seahawks history, without even giving him a shot to get right ... got it

Sherman is not Deion Sanders... that's just ridiculous. Deion is one of the greatest football players ever, Sherm isn't even the greatest CB in the league... Cmon man, get real.

Your right .. he’s better in his career so far :rumble:
Look it up before you speak

 

[hawksincebirth]

SHERMAN IS ARGUABLY THE BEST CORNER OF ALL TIME... statistically. You do not just cut Deion Sanders in his prime

Sanders did not have two Achilles tendons operated in the same off season if I recall.

Ok so cut the best corner in Seahawks history, without even giving him a shot to get right ... got it

Using that logic Kenny Easley should still be on the team. I mean he was our greatest Safety ever.

Kenny Easley played his entire career as a hawk he wasn’t cut until he could no longer play .... lol nice try tho

 

[bigskydoc]

Can we please stop with the "not only one Achilles, but 2" talk already. The second surgery is actually a positive. Without it, it was just a matter of time before he blew out that tendon mid-season, and lost another season of play. The fact that he was able to get it now, without blowing it out, does not make his prognosis any worse. The question of whether he will lose a step with a repaired Achilles is independent of the second surgery.

-bsd

 

[HawkFan72]

SHERMAN IS ARGUABLY THE BEST CORNER OF ALL TIME... statistically. You do not just cut Deion Sanders in his prime

First off Sherm isn't in his prime. Second we haven't cut him just yet, if we can't get some descent draft pick or picks in return, then I'm sure they will give an opportunity to take a pay cut, to play out this season and let him walk next year so the can get the comp pick in 2020. This is a business, we all loved the original LOB, but this is the NFL "Not For Long"
we carried to many of these guys to long into their career with extensions & high cap hits. If we stay @ 18 and land Derwin James, Josh Jackson or Isaiah Oliver. LOB 2.0 will be under way, especially if they keep ET and with Shaq Griffin proving he is legit. I don't expect us to a SB contender this year, but this has to be done with the Rams becoming lead dog, SF now appears to have a legit QB finally, and Zona a QB away from putting us at the bottom of our own division. I have stated this in other posts, but we built the original LOB with a bunch of young talent with chips on their shoulders ala Sherm, Chancellor & Browner none of which were high draft picks. Unlike the debacle of what Cable did with our Oline over the years. Pete knows how to coach up DB's & Safties. Better days ahead.

Please provide me with any proof sherm is in decline ?? I’ll wait . Keep in mind he played Hurt all season .. still ranked #12 corner ahead of guys like trufant, Norman , talib :yawn:

Exactly—#12 CB last year...and the Fourth highest-paid CB going into 2018...was hurt all last year and is coming off a major injury.

You answered your own question.

 

[Sgt. Largent]

Please provide me with any proof sherm is in decline ?? I’ll wait . Keep in mind he played Hurt all season .. still ranked #12 corner ahead of guys like trufant, Norman , talib :yawn:

The fact that Sherman was hurt in combo with his stats declining in just about every statistical category (tackles, interceptions, passes deflected, etc tells you just this, he's on the decline.

AND he's set to make 13M in 2018 with no intention whatsoever of being extended during a rebuilding process...................AND he's a royal pain in the ass.

All this spells "you're cut."

Love Richard, love what he did for us, he helped give the LOB it's identity, and was the voice of the defense during it's historic dominance.

But there's an old saying in business, if you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem. Richard's health, salary and negative impact on the coaching staff and even his own teammates all spells he was part of the problem, and had to go.

 

[hawksincebirth]

SHERMAN IS ARGUABLY THE BEST CORNER OF ALL TIME... statistically. You do not just cut Deion Sanders in his prime

First off Sherm isn't in his prime. Second we haven't cut him just yet, if we can't get some descent draft pick or picks in return, then I'm sure they will give an opportunity to take a pay cut, to play out this season and let him walk next year so the can get the comp pick in 2020. This is a business, we all loved the original LOB, but this is the NFL "Not For Long"
we carried to many of these guys to long into their career with extensions & high cap hits. If we stay @ 18 and land Derwin James, Josh Jackson or Isaiah Oliver. LOB 2.0 will be under way, especially if they keep ET and with Shaq Griffin proving he is legit. I don't expect us to a SB contender this year, but this has to be done with the Rams becoming lead dog, SF now appears to have a legit QB finally, and Zona a QB away from putting us at the bottom of our own division. I have stated this in other posts, but we built the original LOB with a bunch of young talent with chips on their shoulders ala Sherm, Chancellor & Browner none of which were high draft picks. Unlike the debacle of what Cable did with our Oline over the years. Pete knows how to coach up DB's & Safties. Better days ahead.

Please provide me with any proof sherm is in decline ?? I’ll wait . Keep in mind he played Hurt all season .. still ranked #12 corner ahead of guys like trufant, Norman , talib :yawn:

Exactly—#12 CB last year...and the Fourth highest-paid CB going into 2018...was hurt all last year and is coming off a major injury.

You answered your own question.

Lol yes that proved me so wrong, y’all nuts man

 

[HawkRiderFan]

I get he has hit the 30 year age mark, is coming off an achilles tear, and is set to make 11M this year. So I understand why the front office is going this way. And all these guys were going to go at some time so the was going to run the risk of having to draft good replacements at some point. That was unavoidable.

I just hate the thought of a guy who has been a big part of of the enjoyment I got out of watching the Hawks in the last 6 years being gone. Being there live to experience the instant joy of "The tip" is something I will never forget. Despite all the logic behind the move it's sad that it's over (unless a miracle happens and he signs for less).
It's really too bad that if Sherm is done, his Hawk career ends with him limping off the field.

 

[Blitzer88]

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[vin.couve12]

Ok so cut the best corner in Seahawks history, without even giving him a shot to get right ... got it

Sherman is not Deion Sanders... that's just ridiculous. Deion is one of the greatest football players ever, Sherm isn't even the greatest CB in the league... Cmon man, get real.

No, Sanders was one of the greatest cover guys ever. I've literally seen him get slapped to the ground 3 times in 1 single play. Great cover guy....HOOOOOORRIBLE football player. It's like if your little sister was lightning fast and had good hands.

Sanders was in fact overated somewhat..
Great cover but couldn't tackle better than my 14 year old can now seriously BUT Prime Time was
a great KO/PR when he felt like doing it(key moments) and bitched to be a WR but wasn't good
at it.
He was great at being a showman and would have loved to play in todays social media format
and he also played ML Baseball(average).
So do you take Prime Time?or RS?
With far less distractions and someone who can tackle..I take RS in his prime
Today with 2 achilles operations,11 million cap hit and past his prime it's time to say
goodbye to Dick.

RS without question. I also rake either of the Woodsons and probably a couple others before I even consider Sanders.

Edit: Champ Bailey would be another.

 

[Own The West]

I'm good with the move. I expect a growing pains type of season next year with the new staff, so it's a good time to cut payroll and grow your younger players into the system.

We have Richard under contract for 3 years. He won't be right next year, and who knows how he'll be when he's 32+?

Keeping him would be an expensive gamble if age or injury impedes a comeback, and if everything works out it only equates to a couple years of high level play.