Rashad Penny

[olyfan63]

Penny isn't a Thumper, we need a inside the tackles guy.

Agreed, but Penny did improve on his inside running the few games before his injury. On a couple inside runs I had to look at the number twice to see it was Penny and not Carson who was running inside with such authority. We can always hope for Penny's continued development there.

 

[JayhawkMike]

There is no reason to release him unless we need a roster spot. Nobody will give value for him because while he is a sunk cost for us, he offers nothing to other teams that they can’t find in a dozen UDFAs.

People see what they want. Some emphasize the one hard run that he looked like Carson or the 3-4 runs where he was able to break free. I see the absolute drive killing runs where he got nowhere and looked like my 12 year old could tackle him. To each their own. I hated the pick the second it was made instead of Chubb. They tried to get cute and blew it. Oh, and the “Carson was injured” argument is always silly because you replace power (Carson) with power (Chubb) not speed (Penny) in this system.

Good ol’ Pete trying to teach old dogs new tricks instead of just getting the damn dog that already knows the tricks you want and is good at them.

 

[Teahawks]

Penny isn't a Thumper, we need a inside the tackles guy.

Do you remember the 2018 Dallas playoff game? It's not like our guard health is great either, which came to a head in that game. If I recall, Schotty ran Carson inside tons of times for no yards all the way until the fourth quarter.

And then, the first play they put in Penny, he rips off a 20 yard run to the outside.

The point is they need both, and they have two guys who can excel at both.

 

[xray]

OMG if Penny could stay healthy and maybe " step up " . He could be average .

 

[Appyhawk]

The versatility of Dallas is a huge advantage, and he is coming on strong. I'm expecting to see us go into next season 3 deep. Question will be who is the odd man out?
Speaking of contracts, isn't this our last "value year" on Penny too?

 

[tersal]

My best scenario is Penny comes back mid-year shows enough to trade for a midround draft pick.

 

[sdog1981]

The book has not been written about Rashad Penny. He is entering his 3rd year and the team has control of him for THREE MORE SEASONS. He is not going anywhere.

Also, Penny has 150 NFL carries, Carson has 574. We still have no clue what Penny can do if he is the every-down back.

We know what Carson is. A power back that will get hurt every year and fumble every other week.

We still have no clue who Penny is.

 

[Spin Doctor]

The book has not been written about Rashad Penny. He is entering his 3rd year and the team has control of him for THREE MORE SEASONS. He is not going anywhere.

Also, Penny has 150 NFL carries, Carson has 574. We still have no clue what Penny can do if he is the every-down back.

We know what Carson is. A power back that will get hurt every year and fumble every other week.

We still have no clue who Penny is.

First thing we must address is the fact that Penny was signed to a four year rookie contract, not five. He's already going to miss at least half of the 2020 season, meaning he really has just a season and a half left on his rookie contract. I don't know where you are getting three seasons from. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/seattle-sea ... nny-25122/

The second thing I want to point out is the fact that you call Carson injury prone yet ignore the fact that Penny has missed more games in the last two years due to injury than Carson has. All of this despite Penny only having 150 rushing attempts in two years. Chris Carson by contrast had almost double those carries just last season and missed only one regular season game.

We know what Penny is now, a highly inconsistent boom or bust running back. His game is extremely unrefined. He's struggled on runs up the middle, here he has lacked vision and burst. Penny had a few nice games, but that isn't a large enough of a sample size to say he's the guy. Penny has the talent, but he really has struggled to put everything together, and he has also had struggles with motivation on the Seahawks (came into camp and the NFL season overweight the last two years).

I'm skeptical that Penny is ever going to be a bell cow back in the NFL. He has talent but he has really struggled picking up the game at the NFL level. He still is very raw as a player, this is likely going to be a make or break year for him as a Seahawk.

 

[Mad Dog]

Apparently Spin sees Christine Michael and some of us see Alexander lite in Penny. Time will tell.

 

[MontanaHawk05]

Penny isn't a Thumper, we need a inside the tackles guy.

There's two painful ironies about this statement.

One is that Penny was starting to figure out life between the tackles. There were a few plays like this, but one play - and I don't remember which game, but some of you guys will probably remember which play I'm talking about - he got wrapped up but bulled his way through a tight lane for a first down so authoritatively that we thought it was Carson.

The other irony is that Penny, now a gimp risk, was drafted for his consistent health in college.

 

[BirdsCommaAngry]

We got a Penny but what we really need is a nickel we can get for a dime.

 

[Spin Doctor]

Apparently Spin sees Christine Michael and some of us see Alexander lite in Penny. Time will tell.

He is not hopeless like Christine Michael, though he does have some similarities in that he seems to have struggles picking up the playbook. I'm going to compare him to another running back that was on the Seahawks. Now their playing styles are different, but I see their career arcs being similar. That running back is Julius Jones.

Jones was an extremely talented running back when he entered the NFL. In fact he had several alright seasons, he just really struggled putting it all together consistently. He was extremely boom or bust as a running back and he had issues with vision up the middle. On the other hand he could completely take over games. He was a lot like this on the Dallas Cowboys and it used to drive Cowboy fans mad.

 

[Spin Doctor]

Penny isn't a Thumper, we need a inside the tackles guy.

There's two painful ironies about this statement.

One is that Penny was starting to figure out life between the tackles. There were a few plays like this, but one play - and I don't remember which game, but some of you guys will probably remember which play I'm talking about - he got wrapped up but bulled his way through a tight lane for a first down so authoritatively that we thought it was Carson.

The other irony is that Penny, now a gimp risk, was drafted for his consistent health in college.

Penny is a gimp risk. It doesn't matter what his health was like in college, in the NFL he has been unable to stay healthy in the limited number of snaps that he has had. As of right now he is every bit of an injury liability as Chris Carson is.

Everyone is grasping onto this one play. I need to see more, Penny really only had a few plays like that in his entire career as a Seahawk. If he becomes the starter he will have to pull those kind of plays on a consistent basis, which this is the biggest knock on him as a whole. He's really only played one complete, clean game. Consistency is the key here which is something that he has not proven.

One can only hope that this season he takes a Golden Tate like turn. He could, but I have my doubts.

 

[sdog1981]

The book has not been written about Rashad Penny. He is entering his 3rd year and the team has control of him for THREE MORE SEASONS. He is not going anywhere.

Also, Penny has 150 NFL carries, Carson has 574. We still have no clue what Penny can do if he is the every-down back.

We know what Carson is. A power back that will get hurt every year and fumble every other week.

We still have no clue who Penny is.

First thing we must address is the fact that Penny was signed to a four year rookie contract, not five. He's already going to miss at least half of the 2020 season, meaning he really has just a season and a half left on his rookie contract. I don't know where you are getting three seasons from. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/seattle-sea ... nny-25122/

The 2020 season, the 2021 season and if they pick up the 5th year option the 2022 season. That is how I got three seasons.

The crazy thing is, he might not even get a chance at a 250 carry season until 2021, which is good for the Seahawks because they can still pick up that 5th year option to see if he can handle two full seasons of work.

 

[chris98251]

Penny isn't a Thumper, we need a inside the tackles guy.

There's two painful ironies about this statement.

One is that Penny was starting to figure out life between the tackles. There were a few plays like this, but one play - and I don't remember which game, but some of you guys will probably remember which play I'm talking about - he got wrapped up but bulled his way through a tight lane for a first down so authoritatively that we thought it was Carson.

The other irony is that Penny, now a gimp risk, was drafted for his consistent health in college.

He has had a few plays, key though is if your that guy you have to do it when they all know your going to be coming up the gut and not surprised the play was called that way.

 

[olyfan63]

Penny isn't a Thumper, we need a inside the tackles guy.

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One is that Penny was starting to figure out life between the tackles. There were a few plays like this, but one play - and I don't remember which game, but some of you guys will probably remember which play I'm talking about - he got wrapped up but bulled his way through a tight lane for a first down so authoritatively that we thought it was Carson.

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Yup, I recall a couple Penny inside runs later on in the season, where I thought it was Carson, but turned out to be Penny when they unpiled. I thought, at the time, "Yes! Progress!!"

I agree we still don't know who Penny is. I disagree that he is done developing. When healthy, eventually this year, I'm hoping he'll pleasantly surprise us by showing off some new abilities.

An aside... anyone recall Penny's amazing kickoff returns in college? Here's a refresher...
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