Hawks D Against the Lambs

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We had one of the best D lines in the league. We get pressure. But if you can't cover the Rams wr's long enough for that pressure to get there, you get what we have seen in our last 2 games.

MMs strategy to play more man coverage against the Rams was right (I think). And if you rewatch the game and the number of passes they made that were into extremely tight windows or came as the result of a defender falling, you can see that the strategy was sound. And that it took a Stafford / Puka / Adams to do it. Jobe is just 2 inches too short and 10 pounds too light. Same with Spoon. Give Spoon a head of steam and he hits like a jackhammer. Ask him to jam Puka off the line... Good luck.

Other teams who were successful against the Rams were willing to blitz them. That's not MMs thing. He sees blitzing a bit like robbing Peter to pay Paul and against a HOF QB like Stafford, a losing proposition. He has also stated multiple times that he doesn't believe in copying what other teams did as a basis for your own strategy. He has confidence in what he / we do and wants to call his game that way.

The zone schemes we ran against the Rams prior to the last 2 games just weren't effective against McVay and I don't think they ever will be a sound way to beat Stafford / McVay in zone without a monster Edge or interior rusher.

Can we add a guy like that? Yeah. But in the position we are heading for (low draft pick, needing to pay a bunch of stars sooner than later) it might be more prudent (and cost effective) to upgrade a guy like Jobe to a longer, sturdier corner. A premium edge guy is going to price us out of keeping guys I think we would benefit from having locked up.

And, shoveling a crap ton of money in FA to a premier Edge is also counter to the 12 as one philosophy. Our front right now is the teams strength. Our backend and CBs... Take away Woolen and we have Spoon and dudes.

As much hate as Woolen is getting, outside of the TD he gave up when he was mentally on the sideline, he covered Puka really well.

Give Spoon more reps in man so he doesn't constantly trip over his feet when he turns to shadow his guy and we are better - that happened 3 times for completions. It happened last game as well.

Add a solid, bigger #2 CB in the draft or FA and we look better against the Rams, guaranteed.
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Yes they did (not going to deny that) but let me fire back at you with :

That was the regular season where they bailed him out.

This was the PLAYOFFS where there was no tomorrow had they lost this game.

The Defense did not play their best game and even had a horrific gaffe that would've cost them a chance to go to the SuperBowl.


The bottom line is that Sam saved their asses in this one so yeah...they do owe him, Fernie.

And they will repay him by destroying Maye on Superbowl Sunday. 💪😤
Like I said...glad he put his big boy pants on.
 

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Honestly..I would’ve liked to see some corner blitzing. Bears, Panthers, Falcons had success there
 

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Honestly..I would’ve liked to see some corner blitzing. Bears, Panthers, Falcons had success there
I think they respected Stafford a bit too much here.

I also think they won't respect Drake Maye at all in this one so we may see more blitzes by MM
 
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I think they respected Stafford a bit too much here.

I also think they won't respect Drake Maye at all in this one so we may see more blitzes by MM
MM’s had big success confusing young QB’s this year, so blitz wrinkles are likely. But Maye is not the typical young QB…he’s played way above recent draft classes.
 

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Like I said...glad he put his big boy pants on.
Aaaah, the fake narrative that he's a "playoff choker"

He played in ONE playoff game his entire career before this year.

As far as Maye goes, he's pretty damn good Glen. He threw for just under 4400 yards, has a 72 percent completion percentage, 31 TD's, 8 picks, and a QBR of 123.4

Those are MVP level numbers. This isn't some slouch we're going against in the SB. He's also a really good scrambler and can be a threat with his legs. I expect a 10-14 point win, but this isn't a pushover team or QB at all.
 
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MM’s had big success confusing young QB’s this year, so blitz wrinkles are likely. But Maye is not the typical young QB…he’s played way above recent draft classes.
Well it certainly helps when you're playing in a weak AFC conference.

Man...this year that conference was total dogshit.
 

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Aaaah, the fake narrative that he's a "playoff choker"

He played in ONE playoff game his entire career before this year.

As far as Maye goes, he's pretty damn good Glen. He threw for just under 4400 yards, has a 72 percent completion percentage, 31 TD's, 8 picks, and a QBR of 123.4

Those are MVP level numbers. This isn't some slouch we're going against in the SB. He's also a really good scrambler and can be a threat with his legs. I expect a 10-14 point win, but this isn't a pushover team or QB at all.
He had a great year, no doubt about that.

But...the caveat is that the Conference this year was pretty sub-par if we're being honest.

The NFC in comparison was by far the strongest of the two.

So I wonder if Drake would've had similar success over here as he did over there (I'm not too sure about that).
 

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Yes, but you can only play the schedule in front of you. And he played very well. I expect us to win, but a blowout? Nah.
Hope so, but that's a well-coached team and Vrabel is no joke.
 

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Aaaah, the fake narrative that he's a "playoff choker"

He played in ONE playoff game his entire career before this year.

As far as Maye goes, he's pretty damn good Glen. He threw for just under 4400 yards, has a 72 percent completion percentage, 31 TD's, 8 picks, and a QBR of 123.4

Those are MVP level numbers. This isn't some slouch we're going against in the SB. He's also a really good scrambler and can be a threat with his legs. I expect a 10-14 point win, but this isn't a pushover team or QB at all.
Don't know where you got "playoff choker" from, not what I meant at all. You have a habit of reading things into others comments Soul.
 

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Not pointing out just you. I'm talking about the fake narrative that was created by the media and many of our own fans. Based off of ONE playoff game and loss in the final game of the season. It's not a habit, it's pointing out what I see. And for the record, mid-season, I had doubts too.
You know me well enough to know how much I can't stand "We won, but" or "He won, but"

Drives me insane. No secret about that.
 
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He had a great year, no doubt about that.

But...the caveat is that the Conference this year was pretty sub-par if we're being honest.

The NFC in comparison was by far the strongest of the two.

So I wonder if Drake would've had similar success over here as he did over there (I'm not too sure about that).
Not trying to be an ass...but it's all speculation. He's 1 of 2 QB's in the running for MVP in his 2nd year as a pro. If you've watched him play, he has all the tools and plays like Allen with better wheels. Would he play worse in a tougher division? Impossible to answer IMO...too many variables.

I'm highly confident going into this game and expect MM will be able to rattle him a bit. He's lost some luster in the playoffs, which is probably a factor of age and weather. But I give respect where it's due. The Pats look like they have their QB for the next 10 years.
 
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Aaaah, the fake narrative that he's a "playoff choker"

He played in ONE playoff game his entire career before this year.

As far as Maye goes, he's pretty damn good Glen. He threw for just under 4400 yards, has a 72 percent completion percentage, 31 TD's, 8 picks, and a QBR of 123.4

Those are MVP level numbers. This isn't some slouch we're going against in the SB. He's also a really good scrambler and can be a threat with his legs. I expect a 10-14 point win, but this isn't a pushover team or QB at all.
You can add to your list that Maye didn't exactly have a great receiving corp to throw to either.
 

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Yup. I'm going from thinking blowout to thinking good battle. With a 10-14 point win.
 

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Come on Glen. There's more to football than EVERYONE SUCKS EXCEPT SEATTLE!!!!

We are in the f*cking SuperBowl.

As far as I'm concerned, Everyone DOES suck except for Seattle.

Why? Because everyone (aside from the Pats) are home watching US.
 
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