Geno Smith...

[Rosco]

Superbowl winning QBs Drew Brees and Russell Wilson say "hold my beer, tall prototype"

But more often than not, that prototypical tall QB is the one
Short QBs that do find success are outliers,not the norm. Once RW loses a step and can’t outrun anyone, his level of play is going to fall off a cliff.

 

[Palmegranite]

But more often than not, that prototypical tall QB is the one

Except when they aren't. 100% height bias based on literally nothing.

 

[Rosco]

Except when they aren't. 100% height bias based on literally nothing.

Based on the history of the NFL.

 

[olyfan63]

So we have the two unluckiest QBs in the league battling it out for QB1. Lock gets covid. Good luck for Geno! Then Geno gets drops and penalties at inopportune times, doesn't lead the team to TDs. Bad luck for Geno!

One of the huge problems Geno has had this preseason is he's allowed at least 3 big returns on special teams that flipped field position. Yeah, I know Geno doesn't even play special teams, but maybe he should be attending their meetings during the week and giving them motivational talks? After all, as Russell says, the separation is in the preparation. </sarcasm>

The point is that Geno isn't good enough, as it stands now, to overcome miscues by the rest of the team. Of course, guys who CAN overcome teammate miscues typically cost in the double digit millions per year. While Geno is somewhat mobile, he's not very elusive, and can't really extend plays against NFL defenders. However, Geno has proven he is a serviceable NFL backup. So the good news is that with the salary cap savings, Seattle can have a couple-three additional talented players on the team, probably Carroll will use the cap saving$ on D, like an Avril and Bennett back in the day, and the D should keep us in a lot of games, so that Geno can fail to win them at the end.

The result is, good luck for Lock, he gets an extra week of learning and the opportunity to show what he can do with the 1's. Will he be Lucky Lock this time? Or will he be Lost Lock and hand the QB1 job to Geno?

 

[keasley45]

 

[flv2]

Looks like Matt Corral is out for the year for Carolina.

Their other QBs? Baker Mayfield and Sam Darnold

Ours? Geno Smith, Drew Lock and Jacob Eason.

let that sink in. What a 100% idiotic move by PC To have the worst QBs in the league.

and to the poster that said Geno might be a too 20 or 15 QB in the league cough#&&*bullsh!tcough. Please name 5 starters that today are worse than Geno Smith. Let alone 10.

Walker looked good in Week 1 whilst Corral was totally out of his depth. Even if healthy Corral shouldn't play this season. Walker didn't look like a #3 QB and he doesn't deserve to be cut for Corral.

 

[Titus Pullo]

Superbowl winning QBs Drew Brees and Russell Wilson say "hold my beer, tall prototype"

Tom Brady, Joe Montana, and Peyton Manning say "Hold my beer, little guy."

 

[Palmegranite]

RW's Seahawks - 43. Tall guy with tall forehead-8. He's tall, but not so tall that the first snap of the game went over his head.
And why is this Patriots-Broncos fan trolling this Seahawks board?

 

[Maelstrom787]

Chris Simms likes Geno even more than I do, apparently.

People are starting to settle down and listen to reason. Priors are the strongest drug on the face of the planet.

 

[Titus Pullo]

RW's Seahawks - 43. Tall guy with tall forehead-8. He's tall, but not so tall that the first snap of the game went over his head.
And why is this Patriots-Broncos fan trolling this Seahawks board?

Does that make you a Chargers/Saints fan trolling the Seahawks board for dropping Drew Brees' name?

 

[fullquartpress]

Chris Simms likes Geno even more than I do, apparently.

People are starting to settle down and listen to reason. Priors are the strongest drug on the face of the planet.

Chris Simms wants Geno, rather than Lock, to advantage his friend Kyle Shanahan.
Dan Orlovsky wants Geno, rather than Lock, to advantage his friend, Matthew Stafford.
Both know that Geno will preclude any hope for Seahawk success.
They fear Drew Lock, as a possible unknown threat to their friends.
You've swallowed their whole infomercial.

Here's the Chris and Kyle element:
"Shanahan and Simms were not only roommates while in college at the University of Texas, but were best friends. One night in college, both of them decided to get a tattoo of each other's' initials. Chris Simms has gone on to say that they'll be “best friends for life“."

 

[Maelstrom787]

Chris Simms wants Geno, rather than Lock, to advantage his friend Kyle Shanahan.
Dan Orlovsky wants Geno, rather than Lock, to advantage his friend, Matthew Stafford.
Both know that Geno will preclude any hope for Seahawk success.
They fear Drew Lock, as a possible unknown threat to their friends.
You've swallowed their whole infomercial.

Here's the Chris and Kyle element:
"Shanahan and Simms were not only roommates while in college at the University of Texas, but were best friends. One night in college, both of them decided to get a tattoo of each other's' initials. Chris Simms has gone on to say that they'll be “best friends for life“."

 

[LeaveLynchAlone]

Do we really need four pages to discuss Geno? Dude is a career backup, as shown by the last 10 or so years of his career. Same can be said about Lock.

It can said but is it true? Clearly you believe so. Does what you believe always lead to the truth?

 

[fullquartpress]

An NFL wideout catches that ball. It was in his face. Between his hands. Swain has not played well in consecutive weeks now.

It was over Swain's head, and behind him. Swain had to put on the brakes and become aerial, to have a risky chance.
Besides those obvious flaws with that pass, the nearest Bear west of Swain was 8 meters west.
And the nearest Bear east was nanometers away.
This was a textbook example of 'throwing a receiver closed'(and into potential life threatening danger)...rather than 'throwing him open'....

 

[keasley45]

It was over Swain's head, and behind him. Swain had to put on the brakes and become aerial, to have a risky chance.
Besides those obvious flaws with that pass, the nearest Bear west of Swain was 8 meters west.
And the nearest Bear east was nanometers away.
This was a textbook example of 'throwing a receiver closed'(and into potential life threatening danger)...rather than 'throwing him open'....View attachment 54152

First, this post is worthy of note for the fact that you reference distances in meters and nanometers. I'm in germany at the moment and still a bit jetlagged and thought for a sec that maybe Google had converted your post from imperial. Lol

Second. I don't see what you see in that image and I don't think I've heard anyone other than a member or two on this board say that that pass shouldn't have been caught or that it was errant.



Murph made this video to address the negativity around Geno's play. He did the same last week. It's not biased and pretty informative. You can see clearly from the end zone view that the ball actually hits Swain on his leading shoulder. Swain short armed it and tried to catch it against his body. Geno led him as much as he could because the defender in front of him was 2 steps away, not meters...after the catch. His diagnosis of that specific play comes at around 5 minutes.

Glad his reviews are out there for the benefit of giving folks the All22 looks.

 

[fullquartpress]

First, this post is worthy of note for the fact that you reference distances in meters and nanometers. I'm in germany at the moment and still a bit jetlagged and thought for a sec that maybe Google had converted your post from imperial. Lol

Second. I don't see what you see in that image and I don't think I've heard anyone other than a member or two on this board say that that pass shouldn't have been caught or that it was errant.



Murph made this video to address the negativity around Geno's play. He did the same last week. It's not biased and pretty informative. You can see clearly from the end zone view that the ball actually hits Swain on his leading shoulder. Swain short armed it and tried to catch it against his body. Geno led him as much as he could because the defender in front of him was 2 steps away, not meters...after the catch. His diagnosis of that specific play comes at around 5 minutes.

Glad his reviews are out there for the benefit of giving folks the All22 looks.

I tried to see the ball hitting Swain's leading shoulder from the endzone view, but couldn't easily see that. And my screenshot(from a 20 inch monitor) seems to show the ball high and behind, with Swain twisting to reach...back... Swain certainly looks elevated higher than the defender, and the pass was too high.
And the other Bear looks 8 yards away...that's not two steps for me.
To answer Murph's question: No, DK wouldn't have caught it, and neither would Cooper Kupp.
Either one of those guys could have been injured on the play, or could have had the ball knocked out into a possible INT.
Maybe Megatron(remember CJ?), in his prime, would have caught it, but Calvin was bigger than Swain or DK or Kupp.

 

[keasley45]

I tried to see the ball hitting Swain's leading shoulder from the endzone view, but couldn't easily see that. And my screenshot(from a 20 inch monitor) seems to show the ball high and behind, with Swain twisting to reach...back... Swain certainly looks elevated higher than the defender, and the pass was too high.
And the other Bear looks 8 yards away...that's not two steps for me.
To answer Murph's question: No, DK wouldn't have caught it, and neither would Cooper Kupp.
Either one of those guys could have been injured on the play, or could have had the ball knocked out into a possible INT.
Maybe Megatron(remember CJ?), in his prime, would have caught it, but Calvin was bigger than Swain or DK or Kupp.

OK. Then I don't know what to say.

 

[keasley45]

Two images, from my 5.3" (13,5cm) Samsung smartphone screen. One shows the ball just before it hits Swain as he is reaching up and in front. The second... clearly showing Swain trying to trap the ball between his arms and his chest. And unless his anatomy is wholly different than the rest of us, his chest is in front of him.

The notion that only the most gifted of receivers could have caught this ball is laughable. SWAIN had it between both hands and his chest and dropped it. DK... Tyler... ADB... any receiver worth his salt, catches this.

Swain played terribly. He looked lost the whole game, whether on the ball or away. There's another play in the video where he hangs Geno out to dry on a bootleg by literally stopping his pattern... on a bootleg... and just stands there.

If you want to be critical of Genos game, there are other plays out there to do that with. This isn't one of them.

 

[fullquartpress]

OK. Then I don't know what to say.

OK, I'll just add thoughts of other receivers who wouldn't have caught it:
Stefan Diggs
Justin Jefferson
Keenan Allen
Kenny Gollady
Amari Cooper
Tyreek Hill
Jamaar Chase
Davonte Adams
...Mike Williams might have had a shot...better jumper....
But, to me, that looked like many passes that end with, "He couldn't come down with it."

 

[keasley45]

One more for good measure.