Geno Smith the headcase

[keasley45]

That game was a trip. His worst half ever and probably his best half ever, in the same game. And like Geno getting excuses, not all those were on him. Butterfingers Kearse didn't help that game. Until it mattered. Russ was a cold-blooded killer for most of his time here. Nothing will ever change that. Game on the line, he was nails.
Not trying to pile on, but no way in hell Geno wins a game like that.

And Kearse gets WAY too much blame.

Russ threw a pick right to Clinton Dix and another to Sam Shields... In the endzone.

The first one to Kearse was 2 yards too far in front of him. He got a hand on it and nothings else.

Thats three passes that had nothing to do with Kearse's 'butterfingers'.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Exactly the response I expected.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

And Kearse gets WAY too much blame.

Russ threw a pick right to Clinton Dix and another to Sam Shields... In the endzone.

The first one to Kearse was 2 yards too far in front of him. He got a hand on it and nothings else.

Thats three passes that had nothing to do with Kearse's 'butterfingers'.

Geno isn't and never will be in the same stratosphere as Russ was. It's beyond me how you continue to act like this is guy is a god. And the fact that you think they make EITHER SB without Russ is laughable.

Next. I'm done talking about this with you.

 

[Ozzy]

And Kearse gets WAY too much blame.

Russ threw a pick right to Clinton Dix and another to Sam Shields... In the endzone.

The first one to Kearse was 2 yards too far in front of him. He got a hand on it and nothings else.

Thats three passes that had nothing to do with Kearse's 'butterfingers'.

I truly have no idea how you see it that way. Kearse was way more at fault that day and it’s not remotely close

 

[Ozzy]

Geno isn't and never will be in the same stratosphere as Russ was. It's beyond me how you continue to act like this is guy is a god. And the fact that you think they make EITHER SB without Russ is laughable.

Next. I'm done talking about this with you.

They don’t win or make either SB without Russ. Geno isnt in the same stratosphere as peak Russ was.

 

[Ozzy]

One thing is, Geno passes way too much - so better chances of TOs.
I'd love to see what he does with a more balanced attack and an average
line.
I'm frustrated watching this offense, I don't think it's Geno.

Geno is 12 years in the league with one great 8 game stretch. We already know what Geno is.

 

[ruffENrowdy]

I guess where I'm at, I just do not for the life of me the people defending Geno at this point lol. He's a league average qb if you give it some sort of perspective. When he's on he's on, but man when he's off, he's off.

I guess my 8 year old said it best the last two games.. He asked me if we were going to get good Geno or Bad Geno lol. I made him go knock on the kitchen table both times just to see if it would help. So far so good!

 

[SoulfishHawk]

You're 8 year old son gets it more than the Geno worshipers

 

[Sperrydogg]

Geno is a great story of overcoming adversity……. some times. Bless his heart

 

[Seahawk_Dan]

You're 8 year old son gets it more than the Geno worshipers

I've been told that Geno is a game wrecker.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Oh, he can wreck a game alright

 

[projectorfreak]

All this banter over the course of 11 games and ONE thing is becoming very clear to me
The OC is just not flowing with the game quite right and it's leading to what we see on the field
At the cards game you could clearly see it even from the awesome second level seats I had
Geno hasn't had a problem with getting the play call and setting up before this year and the run game , barring our oline at times (most of the time) just seems like smackin your head into a brick wall
Gone are misdirection and PA and it's definitely trickling down so somebody please say something (cough ,cough MM)
We can play so much more fluid with the guys we have

 

[IndyHawk]

Geno is 12 years in the league with one great 8 game stretch. We already know what Geno is.

He wasn't even playing a few of those years at least.
He's had some of the worst OCs I have ever seen, get
him one average OC and if it doesn't work?
I will eat a lot of crow.

 

[OrangeGravy]

The threads about Kyler Murray over at the AZ cards forum that are almost exactly like the threads we see here about Geno.

Would you trade Kyler for Geno straight up? The little fella has some upside for sure - but I don't think he is any better than Geno - at least for our team.

Fans micro-analyze their own teams player's every move, while judging the rest of the league from highlight clips and lists pumped out by talking heads. They are incapable of applying a consistent standard to both sets of players. Hence every team's forums having the exact same arguments every single week of every single season. It's more predictable than the Jags being terrible

 

[OrangeGravy]

Its the timing of his mistakes. He has multiple picks in the red zone. He had another in the opposite end zone. His decision making is terrible at times.


I personally think Goff is better than Geno and I know people will hate that but that's how I have it ranked.

Have you gone through the other QBs INTs and counted how many were bad timing mistakes and put that against your number of Geno's bad timing mistakes? Or are you assuming no other QBs make poorly timed mistakes at any meaningful rate?

 

[SeaWolv]

Not comparing the two, but Russel Wilson also threw 5 INT in a game. It sucks, but it happens. Even great QB's have bad days. Goff is a good QB, better than Geno I'd say. He is benefiting from some great weapons and solid OLine, but despite having 3 more years under his belt, Geno's stats do not stack up to Goff's.

Not necessarily suggesting Geno is better than Goff just trying to illustrate that all QBs have their issues. Goff is immobile which can be a hinderance, he's played with generally more talent around him than many QBs and he can throw a good number of picks in some seasons. Geno has his issues but he also has a lot of strengths. He's fine for now until JS/MM finds our franchise QB.

 

[SeaWolv]

20 tds and 9 ints is still much better than 12 tds/12 ints. Goff is at least 48 points better if you total up their tds difference. Geno is on pace to finish the season with 18 tds/18ints. That's worse than he did last season.

The Hawks OLine has been in flux this season and got worse before it got better. Geno has had less time to throw than a lot of QBs and a poor run game hasn't helped. Bradford has been downright awful and Tomlinson has been mediocre. Cross is good and Lucas will be good again once he gets back up to speed after his long layoff. Oluwatimi is young and improving. They're getting better but this group is going to need upgrading after the season.

Goff has had a consistently good OLine all season and the Lions have depth there the Hawks don't. Because of this the Lions run game is better, their play action is more effective and Goff has more time in the pocket to throw. Considering all that you could make the argument that Goff's picks are worse because he has more factors working for him.

I haven't even talked about the Hawks' defense and their role in the Hawks' offensive woes. Not keeping scores lower in some games prevented the offense chances to be more competitive. Thankfully more mid season tinkering on this side of the ball has also resulted in improvements.

I'm not saying Geno is the long term answer but he's sufficient for now until we find our QBotF.

 

[Ozzy]

He wasn't even playing a few of those years at least.
He's had some of the worst OCs I have ever seen, get
him one average OC and if it doesn't work?
I will eat a lot of crow.

I think in this league if you can’t beat anyone out for 10 years across multiple teams you are what you are. But he is capable of putting up big numbers so here’s to hoping he finishes out the year strong.

 

[Ozzy]

The Hawks OLine has been in flux this season and got worse before it got better. Geno has had less time to throw than a lot of QBs and a poor run game hasn't helped. Bradford has been downright awful and Tomlinson has been mediocre. Cross is good and Lucas will be good again once he gets back up to speed after his long layoff. Oluwatimi is young and improving. They're getting better but this group is going to need upgrading after the season.

Goff has had a consistently good OLine all season and the Lions have depth there the Hawks don't. Because of this the Lions run game is better, their play action is more effective and Goff has more time in the pocket to throw. Considering all that you could make the argument that Goff's picks are worse because he has more factors working for him.

I haven't even talked about the Hawks' defense and their role in the Hawks' offensive woes. Not keeping scores lower in some games prevented the offense chances to be more competitive. Thankfully more mid season tinkering on this side of the ball has also resulted in improvements.

I'm not saying Geno is the long term answer but he's sufficient for now until we find our QBotF.

They just kept 3 teams in a row to low scores and the offense didn’t improve at all, if anything it got worse. This argument keeps getting stated as if it’s a major reason for Geno’s struggles and i don’t buy it.

 

[Fernie Hawks Fan]

The Hawks OLine has been in flux this season and got worse before it got better. Geno has had less time to throw than a lot of QBs and a poor run game hasn't helped. Bradford has been downright awful and Tomlinson has been mediocre. Cross is good and Lucas will be good again once he gets back up to speed after his long layoff. Oluwatimi is young and improving. They're getting better but this group is going to need upgrading after the season.

Goff has had a consistently good OLine all season and the Lions have depth there the Hawks don't. Because of this the Lions run game is better, their play action is more effective and Goff has more time in the pocket to throw. Considering all that you could make the argument that Goff's picks are worse because he has more factors working for him.

I haven't even talked about the Hawks' defense and their role in the Hawks' offensive woes. Not keeping scores lower in some games prevented the offense chances to be more competitive. Thankfully more mid season tinkering on this side of the ball has also resulted in improvements.

I'm not saying Geno is the long term answer but he's sufficient for now until we find our QBotF.

Have a question for you SeaWolv...Geno is asking for an extension, would you agree to paying him Goff kinda money?

Not trying to argue, just a question that I think needs answering.