5 reasons the Superbowl will be easy for the Seahawks

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Anyone not worried about the Saints (even in our house) is crazy. If that team is still playing at that level it will be a great game.

They also have the best TE and we have some of the worst stats against TEs.
 

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SonicHawk":3d4ey2gb said:
Anyone not worried about the Saints (even in our house) is crazy. If that team is still playing at that level it will be a great game.

They also have the best TE and we have some of the worst stats against TEs.

Of course it will be a great game, but RW does not lose in our house. That and I think that the Saints are in for a rough spell coming up. I know that their schedule is pretty cake leading up to us, but I just have a nagging feeling that they will start to lag a bit and finish the season on a losing streak.
 

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The Saints defense have played great. I am grateful this game is at home and not in their dome. Thank the gods
 
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Saints are for real. The MNF showdown in early Dec will be for HFA, IMO. Possibly an early look at the NFC Championship game. Aside from the 49ers game, the NO game is the toughest on the schedule. Sean Payton has made a big difference but Rob Ryan has their defense playing well. They have some significant injuries on their DL. They will be known for their offense but defense is pretty good this year. They won a superbowl without having a top defense.

Teams in the NFC are tougher than in the AFC. NFC is the stronger conference. That's why the Seahawks will be more seasoned in the tougher games than Denver or any team from the AFC. In 2005-06 season, the AFC was much tougher at the top than the NFC. The Seahawks made it to the Superbowl but ended up losing. But they really didn't have any problems through the season and into the playoffs. Winning games easily. Not this time around, so that's why I agree with #1 point made in the article. It's almost like a playoff game each week for the Seahawks. After the Titans the rest of their games are in conference/division games. Those are important. Although the Rams, Cards and Falcons aren't playing well those will be tough especially on the road. Rams and Cards know the Seahawks well being in the division. The Seahawks seem to find a way to lose to Atlanta the past few years.
 

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San Fran is the toughest game left on our schedule for all the obvious reasons. I'm not ashamed to say that I expect to lose that game. They are for real and they have shown over the last couple weeks that they are righting their ship. Then, along with us getting Harvin back, they'll be getting Crabs back. Nobody playing us in the CLink concerns me. At all. Sure, it could happen and will happen eventually of course, but not this season. We'll be 8-0 at home this season. If we get beat at home this season I will be shocked! Not to mentioned bummed beyond belief for a week. Let's just hope that doesn't happen this season, as I will go on a week-long blackout of this place if that were to happen. I wouldn't wanna read any of the bilge that would be spewed here after a home loss. UGH!!!
 

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I was going to comment, but seeing as it turned into another "OMG O-LINE" thread in two replies (REALLY disappointed to see Todd of all people leading that charge), I got bored fast. We're playing without three starters, people.
 

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MontanaHawk05":1t6cse9v said:
I was going to comment, but seeing as it turned into another "OMG O-LINE" thread in two replies (REALLY disappointed to see Todd of all people leading that charge), I got bored fast. We're playing without three starters, people.

Really? why disappointed? All I'm doing is voicing a valid concern. Ya got me confused here pardner. :Dunno:
 

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Aros":19sjq4c3 said:
MontanaHawk05":19sjq4c3 said:
I was going to comment, but seeing as it turned into another "OMG O-LINE" thread in two replies (REALLY disappointed to see Todd of all people leading that charge), I got bored fast. We're playing without three starters, people.

Really? why disappointed? All I'm doing is voicing a valid concern. Ya got me confused here pardner. :Dunno:

And really, it's the only "valid" concern a lot of us have this season. Without an O-line, I think we're sunk. This is a total "Pray for our O-line to stay healthy" year. If that happens, and we don't have any more injuries to that unit, the sky's the limit. Otherwise, we're dead... IMHO.
 

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It's just that this happens every year. Offensive line, offensive line, offensive line. It's the ONE unit that reliably and disproportionately gets assigned as the pivot of a season, when in reality it's one of the less important areas of the team. Offensive line, offensive line, offensive line. I'm sorry, but I've gotten tired of hearing it.

You two may have put a fair spin on it, but a lot of people don't regard it as an injury situation. We've seen calls for first-round draft attention for the O-line next year. Why? To replace a Paul McQuistan who's a backup anyway? I don't think there's any way to fairly judge Sweezy and Carpenter with everyone around them being fresh from the bench. Two of the few who can do so, Scotte and Kearly, have seen a fair amount of improvement in them. Get these guys back next to some competent tackles and let's see how they look.

Meanwhile, it's been stated elsewhere on this board that Bevell's playmaking, Wilson's scrambling, and our receivers' failure to get separation are hanging the O-line out to dry. A million other factors affect their performance. "Football is a team sport" has really become just code for "the QB and entire offense relies on the O-line" and nobody acknowledges how it goes the other way, thus ironically failing to properly describe a team sport. The myriad of other issues is so plentiful that frankly the O-line occupies very little of my concern.
 

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Maybe it does need first round attention. Do we really want to resign okung? I like him when he plays but not at top left tackle money when we only get him half the time. Our seasons are too important to keep pinning our hopes on a oft injured player at such a very important position.

When okungs deal comes up there are going to be decisions to be made. I don't know if he is worth the investment.
 

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MontanaHawk05":flltnqxo said:
It's just that this happens every year. Offensive line, offensive line, offensive line. It's the ONE unit that reliably and disproportionately gets assigned as the pivot of a season, when in reality it's one of the less important areas of the team. Offensive line, offensive line, offensive line. I'm sorry, but I've gotten tired of hearing it.

You two may have put a fair spin on it, but a lot of people don't regard it as an injury situation. We've seen calls for first-round draft attention for the O-line next year. Why? To replace a Paul McQuistan who's a backup anyway? I don't think there's any way to fairly judge Sweezy and Carpenter with everyone around them being fresh from the bench. Two of the few who can do so, Scotte and Kearly, have seen a fair amount of improvement in them. Get these guys back next to some competent tackles and let's see how they look.

Meanwhile, it's been stated elsewhere on this board that Bevell's playmaking, Wilson's scrambling, and our receivers' failure to get separation are hanging the O-line out to dry. A million other factors affect their performance. "Football is a team sport" has really become just code for "the QB and entire offense relies on the O-line" and nobody acknowledges how it goes the other way, thus ironically failing to properly describe a team sport. The myriad of other issues is so plentiful that frankly the O-line occupies very little of my concern.

I got you. I see what you are saying.
 

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I don't worry about any team at home and I worry about all of them on the road. If we can at least break .500 on the road, with at least one road division win, I think we win our division and probably a first round bye. But we're going to have to go 13-3 or better to get HFA as I think the Saints won't lose more than 3 games.
 

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Different lineman are going to produce the same results. The problem we are running into is a lack of a quick release game and that the first few games we went up against some of the best D-lines in the league. Having to over achieve as a blocker on every play is unsustainable and creates a combination of issues. D-line will see success the longer you hold the ball and that success is a momentum driver causing them to put more effort in on each play. Your lineman will get tired more easily due to working to hard and that causes fatigue which tends to build up over the season. We are now seeing the results of that fatigue in injury form and instead of changing our game plan to quick dump offs, slants and screens we are asking our backups to do what are starters couldn't.

Believe it or not Harvin could be the key to making our O-line successful because he is suppose to create that relief valve. RW will need to use it though and not try to go through 5 progressions on every read. I don't know how much of our short/quick game is RW and how much is Bevell but the only way we are going to see success on the O-line is if we can get our guys into a rhythm that doesn't over fatigue them or ask them to block all over the field for 5 or more seconds on every down. Take away some of the success the defenses are having by getting rid of the ball before they can get to Wilson and they lose momentum.

Sorry, I just don't buy an arguement that excuses poor pass pro using fatigue as the basis. The OL expends more energy getting to the second level on a run play than they they do holding a pass block... and Russell wouldn't have to scramble as much if the OL gave him more than 1 second to get his reads. Further, the OL has been getting plenty of rest because they can't block well enough to sustain drives. :mrgreen:
 

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JCBRAVE":7o41r99m said:
Talking about the Super Bowl in October is a great way not to play in the Super Bowl, just saying.


Well, there is, was, and will be absolutely no chance of me playing in the super bowl, so , since I am not silly enough to beleive what I talk about really has a chance to affect the Seahawks, I will probably talk about it some.
 

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MontanaHawk05":1xe2s4fs said:
It's just that this happens every year. Offensive line, offensive line, offensive line. It's the ONE unit that reliably and disproportionately gets assigned as the pivot of a season, when in reality it's one of the less important areas of the team. Offensive line, offensive line, offensive line. I'm sorry, but I've gotten tired of hearing it.

You two may have put a fair spin on it, but a lot of people don't regard it as an injury situation. We've seen calls for first-round draft attention for the O-line next year. Why? To replace a Paul McQuistan who's a backup anyway? I don't think there's any way to fairly judge Sweezy and Carpenter with everyone around them being fresh from the bench. Two of the few who can do so, Scotte and Kearly, have seen a fair amount of improvement in them. Get these guys back next to some competent tackles and let's see how they look.

Meanwhile, it's been stated elsewhere on this board that Bevell's playmaking, Wilson's scrambling, and our receivers' failure to get separation are hanging the O-line out to dry. A million other factors affect their performance. "Football is a team sport" has really become just code for "the QB and entire offense relies on the O-line" and nobody acknowledges how it goes the other way, thus ironically failing to properly describe a team sport. The myriad of other issues is so plentiful that frankly the O-line occupies very little of my concern.

I'm not going to excuse the OL from their part of this mess otherwise referred to as our passing offense. I think we miss Unger a lot. I don't know if JP knows what he's doing up there as it seems there's times Carpenter gets beat so badly that he almost had to have been expecting help from the center. There's just too many times that a DL or LB comes completely free, and that has to be a blown assignment of some sort. The OL looks a lot like it did when Chris Spencer was at center.

I'm not sure what Sidney Rice's problem is. There must be something wrong with his knee or something because he's not getting separation and he's not fighting for balls like he used to. Since Rice is our #1 receiver and thus gets more first looks than the other guys, Russell is having to go through his progressions when Rice is covered, of which the OL isn't giving him the time to do, so he has to break the pocket to buy more time. Sometimes it work out, a lot of times it results in an incompletion.

Unger is supposed to play today so it will be interesting to see what if any difference he makes.
 

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HawKnPeppa":3qc4zazh said:
RichNhansom":3qc4zazh said:
Different lineman are going to produce the same results. The problem we are running into is a lack of a quick release game and that the first few games we went up against some of the best D-lines in the league. Having to over achieve as a blocker on every play is unsustainable and creates a combination of issues. D-line will see success the longer you hold the ball and that success is a momentum driver causing them to put more effort in on each play. Your lineman will get tired more easily due to working to hard and that causes fatigue which tends to build up over the season. We are now seeing the results of that fatigue in injury form and instead of changing our game plan to quick dump offs, slants and screens we are asking our backups to do what are starters couldn't.

Believe it or not Harvin could be the key to making our O-line successful because he is suppose to create that relief valve. RW will need to use it though and not try to go through 5 progressions on every read. I don't know how much of our short/quick game is RW and how much is Bevell but the only way we are going to see success on the O-line is if we can get our guys into a rhythm that doesn't over fatigue them or ask them to block all over the field for 5 or more seconds on every down. Take away some of the success the defenses are having by getting rid of the ball before they can get to Wilson and they lose momentum.

Sorry, I just don't buy an arguement that excuses poor pass pro using fatigue as the basis. The OL expends more energy getting to the second level on a run play than they they do holding a pass block... and Russell wouldn't have to scramble as much if the OL gave him more than 1 second to get his reads. Further, the OL has been getting plenty of rest because they can't block well enough to sustain drives. :mrgreen:

Fatigue is real and part of every aspect of the game just like Momentum. Something to also consider with run blocking is that it is much easier to press forward than try to not be moved back. The aggressor is also usually the one who stays healthy were those moving backwards are more often injured. It's akin to playing soft vs aggressive.

I'm not excusing the O-line play, I still believe it needs improvement in the pass protection but those outside factors are making it look worse than it really is. Changing coordinators and drafting all 1st round talent still won't look like a top 5 line unless other factors change also.
 
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