All 22 Breakdown of the Seahawks Redzone

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This is an abbreviated version focusing on the Hawks RZ opportunity

Q2 3:37 - 1&10 @ GB 13
Designed quick pass to JSN. Geno probably could've added a bit more zip. Laken doesn't quite hold his block long enough. Both Jalen Sundell and Sataoa Laumea absolutely wiff on their downfield blocks and JSN gets tackled for a gain of 1. This is a TD if anyone blocks. I guess the question to Grubb is -- do you not do this more because of exactly what happened?

Q2 3:11 - 2&9 @ GB 12
Geno floats one up to JSN. Not sure why he doesn't go short to Lockett as a JSN block on the CB probably allows Lockett tto score. Instead I think Geno tries to backshoulder it and JSN wasn't anywhere near in position and the CB makes a pretty acrobatic play to get a hand on it. In real time it looked like an easy dropped pick but after review it was really thrown to a spot that wasn't that easily picked. That being said, it was also not a spot JSN was going to catch it either.

This is one of those plays I don't really understand from Grubb. There's no trick, there's no matchup focus, it's just kind of a boring route play that's a bit of a waste of a 2nd down.

Q2 3:07 - 3&9 @ GB 12
Ok, time for the interception. Still a chance at a 3rd down or even making it a manageable 4th down. Let's see where these routes go. 4 WR. Ok, pressure to Geno and everyone is at about the 5 yard line. That means that the pressure has made it 7 yards and the receivers only 7 yards. Oh boy.

Noah Fant has a step on his defender. Geno with the rush getting to him throws it off his backfoot. Fant takes a horrible route to the ball (he cuts deeper into the endzone and then has to come back to the ball). The CB on Lockett makes a beautiful adjustment as soon as the ball is up in the air.

This was not a great thrown ball, it didn't have enough power to get to the back of the endzone. This play was also ****** almost immediately. But as far as the choice to throw it and to whom it was correct. If Fant makes the right line to the ball it turns into a 50/50 as opposed to an easy INT.

This of course ends are Redzone opportunities for Week 15.
 

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This is an abbreviated version focusing on the Hawks RZ opportunity

Q2 3:37 - 1&10 @ GB 13
Designed quick pass to JSN. Geno probably could've added a bit more zip. Laken doesn't quite hold his block long enough. Both Jalen Sundell and Sataoa Laumea absolutely wiff on their downfield blocks and JSN gets tackled for a gain of 1. This is a TD if anyone blocks. I guess the question to Grubb is -- do you not do this more because of exactly what happened?

Q2 3:11 - 2&9 @ GB 12
Geno floats one up to JSN. Not sure why he doesn't go short to Lockett as a JSN block on the CB probably allows Lockett tto score. Instead I think Geno tries to backshoulder it and JSN wasn't anywhere near in position and the CB makes a pretty acrobatic play to get a hand on it. In real time it looked like an easy dropped pick but after review it was really thrown to a spot that wasn't that easily picked. That being said, it was also not a spot JSN was going to catch it either.

This is one of those plays I don't really understand from Grubb. There's no trick, there's no matchup focus, it's just kind of a boring route play that's a bit of a waste of a 2nd down.

Q2 3:07 - 3&9 @ GB 12
Ok, time for the interception. Still a chance at a 3rd down or even making it a manageable 4th down. Let's see where these routes go. 4 WR. Ok, pressure to Geno and everyone is at about the 5 yard line. That means that the pressure has made it 7 yards and the receivers only 7 yards. Oh boy.

Noah Fant has a step on his defender. Geno with the rush getting to him throws it off his backfoot. Fant takes a horrible route to the ball (he cuts deeper into the endzone and then has to come back to the ball). The CB on Lockett makes a beautiful adjustment as soon as the ball is up in the air.

This was not a great thrown ball, it didn't have enough power to get to the back of the endzone. This play was also ****** almost immediately. But as far as the choice to throw it and to whom it was correct. If Fant makes the right line to the ball it turns into a 50/50 as opposed to an easy INT.

This of course ends are Redzone opportunities for Week 15.
Thanks for doing this, good breakdown of what happened on the INT.

I actually completely get Geno's read here (I thought it was a throw into double coverage in real time). The defender who makes the pick looks for all the world like Lockett has pulled him off the route and I think if Geno were able to deliver a proper throw (without the pass rush that caused him to throw off the backfoot), there is no chance he can adjust fast enough... but his adjustment was still pretty damn sick regardless. Great play by the CB.

The one thing I'll say you missed is that there is pretty blatant pass interference on Fant on this play which is pretty frustrating given there is an official RIGHT THERE to see it. But I digress...
 
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Thanks for doing this, good breakdown of what happened on the INT.

I actually completely get Geno's read here (I thought it was a throw into double coverage in real time). The defender who makes the pick looks for all the world like Lockett has pulled him off the route and I think if Geno were able to deliver a proper throw (without the pass rush that caused him to throw off the backfoot), there is no chance he can adjust fast enough... but his adjustment was still pretty damn sick regardless. Great play by the CB.

The one thing I'll say you missed is that there is pretty blatant pass interference on Fant on this play which is pretty frustrating given there is an official RIGHT THERE to see it. But I digress...

I didn't really see the PI, seems like they both get their hands in and Fant is able to breakaway pretty quick. What's equally frustrating is that Geno doesn't throw it late here, he actually makes the decision at the right time, just couldn't get the throw off with enough power.



Very frustrating to see Laken -- who continues to be just a useless body, **** it up. Also, terrible block by Charbs.
 

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I didn't really see the PI, seems like they both get their hands in and Fant is able to breakaway pretty quick. What's equally frustrating is that Geno doesn't throw it late here, he actually makes the decision at the right time, just couldn't get the throw off with enough power.



Very frustrating to see Laken -- who continues to be just a useless body, **** it up. Also, terrible block by Charbs.

The PI is harder to see in the All-22, pretty easy in the TV footage.

It's not the initial contact, it's actually as the ball is coming into the end zone.

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Ball is still in the air and #33 is already tackling Fant out of the way. Fant wasn't going to be able to get the ball either way because #34 has complete leverage, but the PI was pretty blatant. #33 doesn't even pretend to be playing the ball.
 

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Not only was it PI but Fant was held on his break which may have changed his depth a little as he tried to compensate. Either way he definitely can make a play on the ball if not fouled twice.

Q2 3:37 - 1&10 @ GB 13
Both Jalen Sundell and Sataoa Laumea absolutely wiff on their downfield blocks and JSN gets tackled for a gain of 1. This is a TD if anyone blocks.

I don't think there's another team that whiffs more on blocks. Several games this year I would replay the blown up runs and it's always multiple players taking horrible angles and completely missing their guy or they just let defenders run by as they get to the second level or chase down the wrong guy to block who wouldn't even effect the play. It's like they are coached to quickly get to a zone on the second level regardless of what's near them.

I really don't get how professionals can be that bad at engaging defenders
 
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I honestly didn't like the spacing on that int when I saw the replay. IMO Where Tyler breaks his out makes it easier for the corner to see what's coming and come off it. Whether that play design or Tyler not breaking it off is something I don't know. Over all, you've got three receivers pretty condensed on about 1/3 of the field where they end up.
 

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I honestly didn't like the spacing on that int when I saw the replay. IMO Where Tyler breaks his out makes it easier for the corner to see what's coming and come off it. Whether that play design or Tyler not breaking it off is something I don't know. Over all, you've got three receivers pretty condensed on about 1/3 of the field where they end up.
I saw the same thing. Tyler being too close makes his defender in perfect position for the INT. Not a great scheme there
 

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I honestly didn't like the spacing on that int when I saw the replay. IMO Where Tyler breaks his out makes it easier for the corner to see what's coming and come off it. Whether that play design or Tyler not breaking it off is something I don't know. Over all, you've got three receivers pretty condensed on about 1/3 of the field where they end up.
I wasn't a huge fan either. I think Tyler's probably got to be shorter to really create the space but the way the play is divided up, he's got JSN short of Tyler, so he almost can't. (I still don't think Geno gets picked if the pressure doesn't get there though. The pressure messing up the throw turns it into a duck. Also, the pass might have been late though I couldn't tell if this was supposed to be a 5-step or 7-step drop. If it's 7, which is what Geno takes, he throws it on time but it's not a smooth drop back so it's possible he took two extra steps to gather and throws off the timing.)

And honestly, if you look at both 2nd and 3rd downs, why do we have no routes in the middle of the field? And why didn't we run on 2nd down? Charbs might have a first down on a draw there because the second level of the defense all fades back at the snap. Did Grubb forget we could still get first down?

This was just mediocre play design all the way through, coupled with some very bad blocking on first and third, and a poor throwing choice by Geno on second.
 

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Not only was it PI but Fant was held on his break which may have changed his depth a little as he tried to compensate. Either way he definitely can make a play on the ball if not fouled twice.



I don't think there's another team that whiffs more on blocks. Several games this year I would replay the blown up runs and it's always multiple players taking horrible angles and completely missing their guy or they just let defenders run by as they get to the second level or chase down the wrong guy to block who wouldn't even effect the play. It's like they are coached to quickly get to a zone on the second level regardless of what's near them.

I really don't get how professionals can be that bad at engaging defenders

The sight of multiple tight ends falling into trail and chasing assigned blockers over multiple games has become comical. Don't know why that hasn't been corrected.
 

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I didn't really see the PI, seems like they both get their hands in and Fant is able to breakaway pretty quick. What's equally frustrating is that Geno doesn't throw it late here, he actually makes the decision at the right time, just couldn't get the throw off with enough power.



Very frustrating to see Laken -- who continues to be just a useless body, **** it up. Also, terrible block by Charbs.

That is just a plain ridiculous throw. BRUTAL. So, that pick isn't on Geno?
 

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I saw talking about bad blocks. Likely a little of both, but that throw was ridiculous, imo.

We just need good Geno back and this team will make the playoffs. That's all I want.
 

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I don't see why it has to be the 2 extremes, one or the other. I believe it's possible to point out flaws with the play and also believe Geno made a bad throw.
 

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On the pick he actually has Lockett open before the pressure if he hits it.

Earlier this year Geno was good at climbing the pocket and making plays. He isn’t doing that anymore and just looks frowned at times back there. I’m sure the lack of protection plays into this but really wish he would move more and step up at times. He just looks partly broken to me even when he is making plays.
 

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I honestly didn't like the spacing on that int when I saw the replay. IMO Where Tyler breaks his out makes it easier for the corner to see what's coming and come off it. Whether that play design or Tyler not breaking it off is something I don't know. Over all, you've got three receivers pretty condensed on about 1/3 of the field where they end up.
Yeah it looks like a flood concept that's condensed from the red zone.
 

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I think Tyler isn’t clean in his route maybe? We see these types of plays often in the red zone just looks like the play was off from the get go. Tyler is open tho if Geno hits him
 
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