Geno Believer Yet?

[ivotuk]

I Loved Geno when he was at West Virginia. Didn't get to watch him as much as I'd like, but his ability showed up , and showed out.
His senior season was off the charts, 71.2% completion, 42 TDs to 6 INTS. But I think his ego outweighed his maturity, and it got him in to trouble early.

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PeHawk and I would go round and round about who loved him more.

 

[hawkfan68]

He’s looking better without that deadweight Waldron holding him back.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Really looking forward to seeing how he does against the Niners and the better teams in the league. Fingers, Legs and everything else crossed.

 

[CallMeADawg]

He’s looking better without that deadweight Waldron holding him back.

Waldron is so bad. Feel sorry for Caleb and Odunze.

 

[pittpnthrs]

Look no further than people that didn't even watch the entire game commenting on his performance.

Who's doing that?

 

[CallMeADawg]

Who's doing that?

You, who else? Low hanging fruit and basically expected of you at this point to comment on things without the right information to do so.

 

[JustTheTip]

Geno is what he is. A gifted QB, both physically and mentally, who just a little to often allows himself to get rattled. I think he is the best option that has been available to us since Wilson left. Though I would have liked to see Locke get more of a chance I seriously doubt he would have shown what is necessary out of that chance. It was more about seeing what we have while the games didn't matter much.

It is already looking like games this year will be more valuable than games in the last few years, so I am NOT for Howell getting that same look right now.

I also still think Geno is slightly overpaid but concede that is subjective. And it could be worse (Watson, Jones, etc.)

 

[Torc]

I'm sold. When he first became our starter, it seemed like every time we got to the end of a game and into one of those "drive the length of the field to win the game" situations that were Russ' bread and butter, he'd take a bad sack or fumble it. He's beyond that now and handles those situations well. And of course he's efficient and accurate the rest of the game too.

 

[pittpnthrs]

You, who else? Low hanging fruit and basically expected of you at this point to comment on things without the right information to do so.

Do you even bother to read and comprehend anybodys posts before diving headfirst into your agenda? I was talking to Soul and admitted to him that I only watched the first half and even said Geno looked good (gasp). How and why exactly are you trying to turn that into something negative?

 

[Torc]

I also still think Geno is slightly overpaid but concede that is subjective. And it could be worse (Watson, Jones, etc.)

"slightly overpaid?!?" In general, NFL QBs are overpaid but in relation to his peers, how do you figure this? Geno is at #20 in terms of avg/year. I'm pretty sure any starter you don't see in this list of 22 QBs is on a rookie deal.

How many of the QBs above him in salary would you be willing to just trade straight across for?

 

[SoulfishHawk]

It's a fair opinion. If Geno starts knocking off the top teams, I think many will change their tune and/or view of him, confidence etc.

 

[Double Tribble]

It's a fair opinion. If Geno starts knocking off the top teams, I think many will change their tune and/or view of him, confidence etc.

Exactly. This should not be revelatory.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Yep. Then again, there is NOTHING wrong with people being excited after any win. No matter who they play.

 

[JustTheTip]

"slightly overpaid?!?" In general, NFL QBs are overpaid but in relation to his peers, how do you figure this? Geno is at #20 in terms of avg/year. I'm pretty sure any starter you don't see in this list of 22 QBs is on a rookie deal.

How many of the QBs above him in salary would you be willing to just trade straight across for?

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I am going with total contract value, taking into consideration when it was signed. I also think many above him are more grossly overpaid. I am more going by percent salary cap he is taking and the value he provides to the team. This is also why I think Metcalf is overpaid. I would put Lockette in the same category, but think he has provided more than enough value over the course of his contract to make the discrepancy in value this year acceptable.

Edit to add: I also think they paid what they had to, but that doesn't mean he is providing "good" value.

 

[Maelstrom787]

"slightly overpaid?!?" In general, NFL QBs are overpaid but in relation to his peers, how do you figure this? Geno is at #20 in terms of avg/year. I'm pretty sure any starter you don't see in this list of 22 QBs is on a rookie deal.

How many of the QBs above him in salary would you be willing to just trade straight across for?

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Even worse in cash paid this year. The 3 rookies are ahead of him due to signing bonuses.

 

[CallMeADawg]

Geno is what he is. A gifted QB, both physically and mentally, who just a little to often allows himself to get rattled. I think he is the best option that has been available to us since Wilson left. Though I would have liked to see Locke get more of a chance I seriously doubt he would have shown what is necessary out of that chance. It was more about seeing what we have while the games didn't matter much.

It is already looking like games this year will be more valuable than games in the last few years, so I am NOT for Howell getting that same look right now.

I also still think Geno is slightly overpaid but concede that is subjective. And it could be worse (Watson, Jones, etc.)

Overpaid? You're not going to win that one.

 

[JustTheTip]

Overpaid? You're not going to win that one.

I am not trying to win anything, just expressing my opinion.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

And what's wrong with having an opinion, Dawg? Some think he's a bit overpaid, some don't. Cool.

 

[CallMeADawg]

And what's wrong with having an opinion, Dawg? Some think he's a bit overpaid, some don't. Cool.

He's getting paid significantly less than his peers, and some rookies are making more than him.

If you had that at your job would you consider yourself overpaid?

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Boring argument. He's about where he should be. I don't care either way. I just want them to wait until after the season to redo his deal.

HE CHOSE to sign the deal. He needs to play with his hair on fire and earn a raise. As it should be. Cry my a river if you're asking for more money 1 year after signing a deal.