SoulfishHawk
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Some people believe in the guy, some don't, some are on the fence. It comes with the position, and that's ok.
You know what? you're exactly right. Its a fan site. It just gets muddled sometimes when you cross folks who have a genuine interest in Xs and Os and taking into account quantifiable evidence and complete team metrics vs those who are a bit more B&W and just see and feel how /what they do. And I'm not trying to be derogatory at all. Its just a matter of where your position originates, and how firmly or passionately you are rooted.Some people believe in the guy, some don't, some are on the fence. It comes with the position, and that's ok.
We haven't even seen this starting unit play together but one half of football. We have seen flashes of a great offense.Umm, let's see:
OL, we found better centers, but our starting tackles have been hurt. So no, OL23 isn't better than OL22, not in the games played.
WR, Lockett's a year older, Lockett23 is not better than Lockett22. DK23 and DK22, about the same? JSN wasn't a factor. Before Bobo, our WR corp wasn't better.
TE, ummm same?
RB, somewhat better?
Yup, the problem is the MULTIPLE issues the Seahawks have don't play nicely together.30 pages in this thread? Geeze...
Teams win championships. A solid team around him, along with proper play calling and scheme, Geno is definitely "the guy". He is not the guy you want to mitigate a lot of weaknesses in an offense, though. However, those kinds of QBs are expensive.
That's the factual part of your post.They ain't payin' Geno $35M APY .
They ain't payin' Geno $35M APYto be avg. or to be a bridge.
That's the factual part of your post.
He's only getting around $27 mill guaranteed IIRC.
Oh so this Fade dude just continually makes things up and claims them to be facts. Got it.
Yeah, but the fact that Geno DID help the Seahawks to WIN that game against a Division Rival by 10 points has to also be recognized....He made some mistakes in the heat of the battles, BUT--NOT everything he did deserves criticism by his supposed Seahawks Fans, eh?However in the Seahawk case, it’s happened 2 games in a row now. Geno has 2 INTs in the red zone (one against Cincy and another against the Cards) that’s at the very least taken 6 points off the board (2 fgs). Considering that ball security is one of the most important things that Pete coaches, it’s been poor the past two games.
Now you're getting it, Thumbs up to ya.Oh so this Fade dude just continually makes things up and claims them to be facts. Got it.
LOLOLOL Yep, Fade (like a broken clock) can be right a couple times a day. LOLOLOLOLI was really harsh on Fade last year for his assertions that the Broncos were an organization being run much better than the Seahawks, so the Broncos would be contending for titles a lot in the (then-)near future while the Seahawks were doomed to several years of misery until Pete Carroll either retired or was fired. What actually pushed me into attacking him so harshly was when he did some childish stuff like intentionally spelling Jody Allen's name wrong. I responded by intentionally spelling his handle wrong in an insulting way. Anyway, despite that stuff, Fade does actually make some worthwhile contributions here.
I have found Fade's arrogant-appearing style annoying. For example, he'll watch a YouTube video on NFL defenses and then post as if he thinks he's better-qualified to run an NFL defense than Pete Carroll and Clint Hurtt, or he'll watch a video on "cash over cap" and then post as if he thinks he's better-qualified to manage an NFL roster than Seahawks management. But I'll say this for him: at least he watches the videos and reads about these things. There are other posters who clutter up many discussions around here without contributing much, if anything at all, of value, and some do so and even admit occasionally that they don't understand the things they're saying Carroll or Seahawks management don't understand. I'm not gonna name names, but I will say I found the quality of discussion around here Sunday night, yesterday, and today better than in the previous few weeks.
Fade does go and seek to learn things about football and the NFL, and I'm certain there are things relevant to our discussion of the Seahawks that he knows much better than I do. His style of posting is brash and arrogant, but I've started trying to think about how much I've enjoyed certain players who were seen as brash and arrogant, and that helps me take Fade's style with a grain of salt.
Once you get past that, Fade actually appears to retain quite a bit of what he learns, so even if some of his conclusions look like nonsense to me, there are gems among his observations. I disagreed with most of his conclusions about how the Seahawks, Broncos, and Rams were managing their rosters, for example, but found some gems in some of what he said about some of the ways to get around salary-cap restrictions.
The one really big bias Fade appears to have is that it seems he's got it in his head that Pete Carroll is holding the Seahawks back and that the team would be better off without Carroll and won't go anywhere until he's gone. But we've all got our biases. And Fade isn't afraid to be wrong. He'll post whatever he thinks and/or feels is right at the time, and he's got the integrity not to go back and delete or edit his proven-wrong statements after the fact. I respect that he puts himself out there and that he's man enough to face the music when things go very differently from how he thought they would.
He’s in the same class as Fitzmagic or Josh McCown.....good but not great.It's not that Geno is regressing, it's that he's getting back to being what he has historically always been, except for that brief period last year when teams were figuring him out. This is the part I don't get. Why would anyone expect that a 32 year old qb would suddenly become something he's not? I've said over and over again that leopards don't change their spots. And he's proving me right every weekend. When the chips are down, and we're in the red zone and desperately have to have a td to win the game, can we rely on him to make that happen more often than not? No, we can't. I'm not trying to bag on the guy, I'm just trying to call a spade a spade. I like Geno. I wish him well. Just not as the long term qb of the Hawks.