Re-Sign Lynch Now

[Jeremy517]

Like someone said on the first page he is set to make 7.5 mil next year which we would never pay because even for Lynch that is way up there.

He would make $7MM next year ($5MM salary, $2MM roster bonus).

You say we wouldn't pay him that much, but guess what we're paying him this year: $6.5MM. To say we're unwilling to pay him $500k more than this year is silly.

With no sign of slowdown, with the big regression in the passing game this year, with the cap increases coming over the next two years, and with the Harvin cap hit for next year being roughly $5MM less than anticipated, there is a very good chance he'll be back.

 

[SonicHawk]

Like someone said on the first page he is set to make 7.5 mil next year which we would never pay because even for Lynch that is way up there.

He would make $7MM next year ($5MM salary, $2MM roster bonus).

You say we wouldn't pay him that much, but guess what we're paying him this year: $6.5MM. To say we're unwilling to pay him $500k more than this year is silly.

With no sign of slowdown, with the big regression in the passing game this year, with the cap increases coming over the next two years, and with the Harvin cap hit for next year being roughly $5MM less than anticipated, there is a very good chance he'll be back.

The goal of the FO is not to wait for the slowdown to happen before cutting him. The goal is to forecast a slowdown and cut ties before he is sitting on the bench or average 2.5YPC and $8 million dollars.

It's ok to be wrong, sometimes.

 

[Sgt. Largent]

He is due a $5 million base salary plus a $2 million roster bonus. That is the same $7 million he made in 2013 and close to the $6.5 million he is making this season. His overall cap hit, including signing bonus, will be No. 5 in the NFL, which seems more than fair.

Fair is in the eye of the beholder.

My guess is Marshawn and his agent see him as either THE top RB in the league, or top 2-3. So if you're Lynch who's proven that he still is one of the top 2-3 healthy and productive RB's in the league, is making almost half of what the top RB makes for one year with no extension acceptable?

The answer is no if you're Marshawn and his agent.

Bottom line, just being a top 5 paid RB when you consider yourself top 2-3 with that big of a disparity between #1 and #5 is not going to fly........especially in the last year of your contract. Lynch is 28 and still has one big contract left in him, and he's going to fight to get it..........and IMO he will get it because someone's going to gamble on him.

 

[Jeremy517]

The goal of the FO is not to wait for the slowdown to happen before cutting him. The goal is to forecast a slowdown and cut ties before he is sitting on the bench or average 2.5YPC and $8 million dollars.

It's ok to be wrong, sometimes.

He only has one more year on his deal, so it can never be that big of a mistake to keep him (if he has shown no signs of slowing down; there are usually hints of RB slow downs). We're not talking about giving him a new deal, but rather just letting him play out his existing deal.

The loss of championship equity by cutting him and being wrong is far greater than the gain in championship equity by cutting him and being right.

 

[hawknation2014]

He is due a $5 million base salary plus a $2 million roster bonus. That is the same $7 million he made in 2013 and close to the $6.5 million he is making this season. His overall cap hit, including signing bonus, will be No. 5 in the NFL, which seems more than fair.

Fair is in the eye of the beholder.

My guess is Marshawn and his agent see him as either THE top RB in the league, or top 2-3. So if you're Lynch who's proven that he still is one of the top 2-3 healthy and productive RB's in the league, is making almost half of what the top RB makes for one year with no extension acceptable?

The answer is no if you're Marshawn and his agent.

Bottom line, just being a top 5 paid RB when you consider yourself top 2-3 with that big of a disparity between #1 and #5 is not going to fly........especially in the last year of your contract. Lynch is 28 and still has one big contract left in him, and he's going to fight to get it..........and IMO he will get it because someone's going to gamble on him.

True, I meant more than fair to the Seahawks. He very well could hold out again to add another ~$500,000 to next year's salary and maybe get a two-year extension on top of it. In fact, I would expect that to happen.

 

[Sgt. Largent]

True, I meant more than fair to the Seahawks. He very well could hold out again to add another ~$500,000 to next year's salary and maybe get a two-year extension on top of it. In fact, I would expect that to happen.

I think it'll be much more than that. I could easily see a team with a bunch of cap room giving Lynch a monster deal in the 9-11M a year range. You're telling me teams with a bunch of cap room wouldn't want to give Lynch 10M a year for 3-5 years?

http://www.spotrac.com/cap-tracker/nfl/

 

[hawknation2014]

True, I meant more than fair to the Seahawks. He very well could hold out again to add another ~$500,000 to next year's salary and maybe get a two-year extension on top of it. In fact, I would expect that to happen.

I think it'll be much more than that. I could easily see a team with a bunch of cap room giving Lynch a monster deal in the 9-11M a year range. You're telling me teams with a bunch of cap room wouldn't want to give Lynch 10M a year for 3-5 years?

http://www.spotrac.com/cap-tracker/nfl/

That would require him to test free agency, which means having no guaranteed money after next season. I don't think either Lynch or the Seahawks will allow that to happen.

 

[SonicHawk]

The goal of the FO is not to wait for the slowdown to happen before cutting him. The goal is to forecast a slowdown and cut ties before he is sitting on the bench or average 2.5YPC and $8 million dollars.

It's ok to be wrong, sometimes.

He only has one more year on his deal, so it can never be that big of a mistake to keep him (if he has shown no signs of slowing down; there are usually hints of RB slow downs). We're not talking about giving him a new deal, but rather just letting him play out his existing deal.

The loss of championship equity by cutting him and being wrong is far greater than the gain in championship equity by cutting him and being right.

You say that now, as he rushes for 190 yards all of next season.

Hey, I hope Lynch is here next year and he's as good as he was yesterday as much as the next guy.

 

[dunceface]

Like someone said on the first page he is set to make 7.5 mil next year which we would never pay because even for Lynch that is way up there.

He would make $7MM next year ($5MM salary, $2MM roster bonus).

You say we wouldn't pay him that much, but guess what we're paying him this year: $6.5MM. To say we're unwilling to pay him $500k more than this year is silly.

With no sign of slowdown, with the big regression in the passing game this year, with the cap increases coming over the next two years, and with the Harvin cap hit for next year being roughly $5MM less than anticipated, there is a very good chance he'll be back.

Good point, didn't really think about it that way.
Either way I want him here.

 

[Sgt. Largent]

True, I meant more than fair to the Seahawks. He very well could hold out again to add another ~$500,000 to next year's salary and maybe get a two-year extension on top of it. In fact, I would expect that to happen.

I think it'll be much more than that. I could easily see a team with a bunch of cap room giving Lynch a monster deal in the 9-11M a year range. You're telling me teams with a bunch of cap room wouldn't want to give Lynch 10M a year for 3-5 years?

http://www.spotrac.com/cap-tracker/nfl/

That would require him to test free agency, which means having no guaranteed money after next season. I don't think either Lynch or the Seahawks will allow that to happen.

No I don't think it would require him to test free agency, that'd mean we'd cut him or he'd play out the last year of his deal. Neither will happen.

We'll either agree with Lynch on an extension, or he demands a trade to a team that will give him a new deal, and we get the dreaded "conditional pick."

 

[hawknation2014]

True, I meant more than fair to the Seahawks. He very well could hold out again to add another ~$500,000 to next year's salary and maybe get a two-year extension on top of it. In fact, I would expect that to happen.

I think it'll be much more than that. I could easily see a team with a bunch of cap room giving Lynch a monster deal in the 9-11M a year range. You're telling me teams with a bunch of cap room wouldn't want to give Lynch 10M a year for 3-5 years?

http://www.spotrac.com/cap-tracker/nfl/

That would require him to test free agency, which means having no guaranteed money after next season. I don't think either Lynch or the Seahawks will allow that to happen.

No I don't think it would require him to test free agency, that'd mean we'd cut him or he'd play out the last year of his deal. Neither will happen.

We'll either agree with Lynch on an extension, or he demands a trade to a team that will give him a new deal, and we get the dreaded "conditional pick."

He will have practically no leverage to demand such a thing, and I don't think we would ever trade him. If he holds out through training camp, we would just continue fining him. I also can't imagine him sitting out games in his prime.

Lynch will exchange some guaranteed money for the security of adding years to his deal, like all 29 year old running backs do.

 

[dunceface]

Here is a great article at Field Gulls that details how the Seahawks could move forward with Lynch and still sign the other big names they will need to keep as well (except this scenario has Maxwell, Malcolm Smith, and Jeron Johnson walking)


http://www.fieldgulls.com/seahawks-anal ... ree-agency

 

[Tical21]

With the lack of a dominant passing game I don't think we have a choice but to make sure he's around next year.

 

[nsport]

I heart Marshawn Lynch.

 

[dunceface]

I heart Marshawn Lynch.

Ditto :179417:

 

[Giblien]

Just a few weeks ago, I would have disagreed with you. However, over the past fee games, I think that resigning him to a two-three year deal is a necessetiy. He is the difference (properly utilized) between an average team and a contender.


sign him, sign him, sign him.

 

[hawknation2014]

Here is a great article at Field Gulls that details how the Seahawks could move forward with Lynch and still sign the other big names they will need to keep as well (except this scenario has Maxwell, Malcolm Smith, and Jeron Johnson walking)


http://www.fieldgulls.com/seahawks-anal ... ree-agency

I could see them not re-signing Kearse and/or Carpenter.

 

[ImTheScientist]

he is Seattle's best player. That is all.

FYI, he is under contract next year.

 

[CrimsonWazzu]

Like someone said on the first page he is set to make 7.5 mil next year which we would never pay because even for Lynch that is way up there.

He would make $7MM next year ($5MM salary, $2MM roster bonus).

You say we wouldn't pay him that much, but guess what we're paying him this year: $6.5MM. To say we're unwilling to pay him $500k more than this year is silly.

With no sign of slowdown, with the big regression in the passing game this year, with the cap increases coming over the next two years, and with the Harvin cap hit for next year being roughly $5MM less than anticipated, there is a very good chance he'll be back.

The goal of the FO is not to wait for the slowdown to happen before cutting him. The goal is to forecast a slowdown and cut ties before he is sitting on the bench or average 2.5YPC and $8 million dollars.

It's ok to be wrong, sometimes.

So you personally forecast a drop off to 2.5ypc in 2015? That's what you're going with?

 

[Sgt. Largent]

He will have practically no leverage to demand such a thing, and I don't think we would ever trade him. If he holds out through training camp, we would just continue fining him. I also can't imagine him sitting out games in his prime..

He threatened to retire last off season before we gave him more money, what makes you think he wouldn't just leave the game if he doesn't get what he wants next off season?

With Marshawn's personality, I have no doubt he wouldn't just walk away if he doesn't get what he wants.

So the question is what does Lynch want? He's such a weird dude, I don't even think he knows yet what he wants. Which is why this probably won't be resolved til maybe late next summer.