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No.
This is ridiculous.
Sgt Largent nailed it.
This is ridiculous.
Sgt Largent nailed it.
Sgt. Largent":3selacmy said:We saw what Russell and Bevell can do at the end of last season when Lynch went down. Highest rated offense in the league for the last half of the season.
theENGLISHseahawk":1e34cf61 said:No.
This is ridiculous.
Sgt Largent nailed it.
MontanaHawk05":6ozvwuaf said:Sgt. Largent":6ozvwuaf said:We saw what Russell and Bevell can do at the end of last season when Lynch went down. Highest rated offense in the league for the last half of the season.
And they ran it against Miami as well. Would have been great without Lockett's drops.
So...why didn't they run it this week?
Favre audibled. Big difference. An audible is the play within a play that Favre switched to because he spotted a tell in the defense.Russ Willstrong":1e14ef8b said:Yes. Bevell needs to stop watching ROCKY II for inspiration.
Before he came to Seattle he was with the Vikings and a great collection of talent. The vikings offense struggled early in games because they were playcalling a predictable run-first play-action offense. Favre eventually changed plays much the same as what Wilson did in the Miami game to pull out a win.
Sgt. Largent":3bbkfb1j said:MontanaHawk05":3bbkfb1j said:Sgt. Largent":3bbkfb1j said:We saw what Russell and Bevell can do at the end of last season when Lynch went down. Highest rated offense in the league for the last half of the season.
And they ran it against Miami as well. Would have been great without Lockett's drops.
So...why didn't they run it this week?
Because the Ram's front 7 makes it impossible for us to do just about anything on offense. Run, pass.......it doesn't matter. They just maul our lineman and smother our small WR's to death.
Pete is a GREAT coach, but he's stubborn too. He wants to be the more physical team, on both sides of the ball. It's just not true against the Ram's D. They punch us in the mouth every time.
You beat that by doing what the Niners did, and what teams do against our over pursuing over aggressive defense. Run the ball right at them and take advantage of their over pursuing over aggressive defense to make mistakes. Unfortunately you need at least an above average O-line to do that, of which we don't have.
johnnyfever":3vbo51aq said:So are you saying just hang it up because our OL is sub par? There is no offensive coaching stragegy to mitigate the struggling OL? Did we just get lucky the last half of last season, or suddenly the worst OL we have ever had all of a sudden got WAY better, which also happened to coincide with a major shift in offensive strategy?.
Sgt. Largent":36mp9hbk said:MontanaHawk05":36mp9hbk said:Sgt. Largent":36mp9hbk said:We saw what Russell and Bevell can do at the end of last season when Lynch went down. Highest rated offense in the league for the last half of the season.
And they ran it against Miami as well. Would have been great without Lockett's drops.
So...why didn't they run it this week?
Because the Ram's front 7 makes it impossible for us to do just about anything on offense. Run, pass.......it doesn't matter. They just maul our lineman and smother our small WR's to death.
Rob12":k7lbg89w said:kf3339":k7lbg89w said:I voted "Yes, I think I would".
At some point someone has to be held accountable for this type of offensive lack of production. We are now into the 7th year of PC and I believe 5th (?) year of Bevell. Wouldn't you think by now that we should be able to field a credible NFL offense on a weekly basis? I mean, common on already.
The holes on this offense and the excuses we hear from PC, DB, TC and company just don't hold any water or truth anymore. And the excuses and apologist on this board sometimes are just as bad to read on a regular basis.
If it Isn't the line play, it's the playcalling. If it Isn't the personnel packages, it's the timid nature of some offensive players themselves. But mostly it's the undeniable fact that this team never wants to be aggressive out the gate and dominate in the first half.
AT ALL!
NEVER!
For the life of me I can't see how Paul Allen doesn't see this as well. I do understand that he isn't really a football guy and bought the team only as a favor to the city. But you would have to be a blind man or dead not to see this crap in front of your eyes. Last I heard he is neither of these, so I just don't get it.
PS: I don't want to hear about the Super Bowl's or what happened two or more years ago. I live in the here and now; not the past.
DVOA is hard to argue with though. Despite you saying that you don't want to hear about the past, it's relevant, as recent as last year. And judging by that, Seattle has had an elite offense for at least a few years now. I'm pissed at Bevell too, but I'm trying to not let recency bias play too big of a part.
austinslater25":cau1hupz said:theENGLISHseahawk":cau1hupz said:No.
This is ridiculous.
Sgt Largent nailed it.
Rob I always respect your opinion so I'm curious do you think Bevell's game plan was spot on yesterday?
MontanaHawk05":41gf4t3o said:Sgt. Largent":41gf4t3o said:MontanaHawk05":41gf4t3o said:Sgt. Largent":41gf4t3o said:We saw what Russell and Bevell can do at the end of last season when Lynch went down. Highest rated offense in the league for the last half of the season.
And they ran it against Miami as well. Would have been great without Lockett's drops.
So...why didn't they run it this week?
Because the Ram's front 7 makes it impossible for us to do just about anything on offense. Run, pass.......it doesn't matter. They just maul our lineman and smother our small WR's to death.
That's just weaksauce, Sgt. Of course the Rams DL makes it tough, but there are playstyles better-suited for that and then there are playstyles not suited for that at all. Instead of sticking with the former - pass-first, get the ball out - we went with the latter. Everyone on this board could have predicted that the run would do no good with Wilson injured. But Pete just had to be counter-intuitive.
Sgt. Largent":2wnjfbqa said:I always get confused by the crap Bevell takes in here.
You guys do know that this is Pete's team right? From day one he has given all his coaches and coordinators the parameters for which he wants his team not only be built, but the schemes and plays he wants to see.
Pete's never wavered on his we wanna pound the rock, be a run first physical ball control offense. So that's how Bevell and Russell scheme each and every week.
We saw what Russell and Bevell can do at the end of last season when Lynch went down. Highest rated offense in the league for the last half of the season.
So all you Bevell haters have your vitriol misplaced. Bevell and Russell are just a conduit for how Pete wants his offense run.............and it just looks like crap at the beginning of seasons, it just does. It's a momentum offense meant to shine when it counts, in November and December. September? Err...........not so much.
Sgt. Largent":2xaycbd3 said:MontanaHawk05":2xaycbd3 said:Sgt. Largent":2xaycbd3 said:MontanaHawk05":2xaycbd3 said:And they ran it against Miami as well. Would have been great without Lockett's drops.
So...why didn't they run it this week?
Because the Ram's front 7 makes it impossible for us to do just about anything on offense. Run, pass.......it doesn't matter. They just maul our lineman and smother our small WR's to death.
That's just weaksauce, Sgt. Of course the Rams DL makes it tough, but there are playstyles better-suited for that and then there are playstyles not suited for that at all. Instead of sticking with the former - pass-first, get the ball out - we went with the latter. Everyone on this board could have predicted that the run would do no good with Wilson injured. But Pete just had to be counter-intuitive.
I agree, but like I said Pete for all his positive attributes is also extremely stubborn. He wants to dictate and be the more physical unit, on both sides of the ball.
So he refuses to let Bevell and Russell open it up or change his offensive philosophies, he wants to grind out games in the first half and have that momentum going into 2nd half of seasons. So I don't have the answers, other than that's how Pete is, and he ain't changing............no matter what coordinator we have.
MontanaHawk05":28ocppz3 said:I'm perfectly willing to start blaming Pete for some things, and I have been. I'll give you that. But then you have to start asking about Bevell's specific play-call choices. We were back to long sideline bombs on 3rd down this week, and taking Michael out in favor of Alex Collins.