Maelstrom787
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Total pillow princess. Off my draft board!
Woolen needs to be benched...
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Maelstrom787
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I want to expand on this.
We didn't get a 4.2 speed corner who has a lab-built ideal cornerback body in the 5th round because the rest of the league is dumb.
It's because he's soft and it's because he was lazy in college, outside of technical flaws.
Compare his pff pass defense to Witherspoon for 2024.
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Agreed 100%. We are seeing why he slipped in the draft so much despite his physical skills
Fernie Hawks Fan
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He's soft....Reek Cashmere.
SoulfishHawk
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At this rate, don't be surprised if they move on from him. Coach Mike has NO problems getting rid of guys he sees as not buying in. Anyone here miss our 2 linebackers now? I sure don't.
Boycie
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I think the point is that his ego got inflated after his rookie year, and the name change was just the start of his attitude, and the way he approached the game.So if we start calling him Tariq again he'll do better?
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Yeah except, that's one of Riq's highest graded categories and one of Spoon's lowest. Bit of a difference.
SoulfishHawk
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Spoon is a MUCH better player. It's not even close, imo.
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Seahawk fans are embarrassing sometimes. They expect every defensive player to be as great as the LOB.
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And your point is... ?
SoulfishHawk
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I think we all know Hawks fans are embarrassing sometimes. In other news, Water - Wet. Pizza - Good.
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Funny part about that 3rd down catch and run that set up the short 4th down, in a weird way it may have helped the Hawks. Let's say the Jets throw incomplete on 3rd down and are 4th and forever. With more than 2 min left (I think) and 2 timeouts they probably punt and the Hawks have the ball around their own 25. If the O does not get a first down, now we are are probably punting back to them with time on the clock and either having to go for it or have Meyers punt.
The Jets using up another minute or so before turning it over on downs meant being able to kneel it lout.
The Jets using up another minute or so before turning it over on downs meant being able to kneel it lout.
Yes, that’s my point. Riq is better in pass defense and weaker in run defense. Spoon is better play-maker. I find it hard to blame a player for taking care of his body when coming up for run support. Speaking as a Bears fan, Brisker is a vicious hitter, and he’s paying the price right now with a concussion that may end his career.
SoulfishHawk
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I'll pass on the business decision approach. Play hard all the time, or go play golf.
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Delano - Lano - Gone
Tariq - Riq - ?
Tariq - Riq - ?
No, we expect a talented CB to exhibit effort 100% of the time like Spoon and not take plays off like a bitch.
You are quite the charmer mister 3 posts.
Um, I want players who play hard but not stupid. I gave Brisker as an example of a guy who goes beyond “hard”. He recklessly throws his body into tackles, and knocks himself out as often as the other guy. He’s a damn good player, but not helping us when he’s always on injury report. That’s been the story of his career. This is what I’m saying with Riq. He wouldn’t survive long playing like Brisker.
SoulfishHawk
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Fair enough. Spoon plays hard every play. I wouldn't change one thing.
