Will RW get back to MVP level play in time for playoffs?

[renofox]

His play is trending down. Last 3 games all with an interception and sub 100 rating.

Hopefully he gets back in the groove in time for the playoffs.

 

[Rat]

He more or less is anyway; some of his early-season stats, particularly the lack of turnovers, were unsustainable.

 

[SeahawkStan]

Russ is at his best when he is under pressure. The pressure now begins for sure as we have another Sunday night game against the Rams.....and are they pissed! :shock:

 

[hawksfansinceday1]

Level of opponents has risen a lot so the games aren't easy money anymore. More mistakes are bound to happen against better teams. That said, there's not a QB I'd rather have in this 4 game stretch and the playoffs.
Oh, and the int last night was fluke city.

That said, he should've thrown the ball away.

 

[Sgt. Largent]

I don't think it's a coincidence that since the run game and defense has been playing better, Russell's stats have gone down. We haven't needed him to throw 3-4 TD's a game, run for 40 yards and throw for 300+ yards.

Honestly I could care less if Russell wins the MVP, especially if it means we're continuing to play a more balanced game.

 

[hawksfansinceday1]

I don't think it's a coincidence that since the run game and defense has been playing better, Russell's stats have gone down. We haven't needed him to throw 3-4 TD's a game, run for 40 yards and throw for 300+ yards.......

good point

 

[Mad Dog]

Sadly leadership and willing your team to victory don't play into MVP votes. Sadly its an award for volume stats.

I've resigned myself to Russ never winning an MVP award. He plays to win and sometimes that means handing off the ball when the opponent is laying back in two deep quarters coverage against 21 personnel.

 

[KitsapGuy]

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[Rat]

Sadly leadership and willing your team to victory don't play into MVP votes. Sadly its an award for volume stats.

So, do you think it's a coincidence that all the recent MVPs have played for teams that finished the season with excellent records? Last year's winner (Mahomes) was the leader of the top seed in the AFC, same with Brady the year prior, and Matt Ryan's team was second in the NFC the year before that. The only recent winner (2012) on a team that didn't have at least a first-round bye had a 2000 yard rushing season, which is tough to ignore, and that team still won double-digit games and made the playoffs. Stats matter, but let's not pretend that leadership and wins don't play into the formula.

 

[davidonmi]

Lockett not being healthy has left him without a go-to option. It's definitely hurt him.

 

[Sgt. Largent]

Sadly leadership and willing your team to victory don't play into MVP votes. Sadly its an award for volume stats.

So, do you think it's a coincidence that all the recent MVPs have played for teams that finished the season with excellent records? Last year's winner (Mahomes) was the leader of the top seed in the AFC, same with Brady the year prior, and Matt Ryan's team was second in the NFC the year before that. The only recent winner (2012) on a team that didn't have at least a first-round bye had a 2000 yard rushing season, which is tough to ignore, and that team still won double-digit games and made the playoffs. Stats matter, but let's not pretend that leadership and wins don't play into the formula.

Right, not sure of too many MVP's that weren't considered good leaders. Maybe Rodgers? Idk.

Still four games left. If Jackson stumbles a little, and Russell plays like he did the first 4-5 games and leads us into the #1 or #2 seed and winning the NFC West with a 13-2 or 14-2 record? I think he's certainly going to get a bunch of MVP votes.

But if he continues to play like he has the last 2-3 weeks, good but not great? Nope, not going to happen.

 

[renofox]

I really don't care if RW wins MVP. I just think he's in a little slump right now compared to his play in the first half of the season. I'm hoping he gets back to form in time for the playoffs so the Seahawks have a great shot at a Super Bowl run.

 

[sutz]

His play is trending down. Last 3 games all with an interception and sub 100 rating.

Hopefully he gets back in the groove in time for the playoffs.

We're 3-0 in those "sub-par" games. :twisted:

The MVP award is always too dependent on stats. Trick question: How many teams with a league MVP on it have actually won the Super Bowl that year. Many of them don't survive the 1st 2 rounds of the playoffs, because in order to generate "MVP" level numbers, the team tends to be too one dimensional in passing (usually) or rushing and/or too dependent on a single player. Find a way to shut down that one side of the offense, or that one key player and you're probably going to beat them. Belichick has been doing that for years, literally. One of his key strategies has always been to find a way to neutralize your biggest strength and forcing you to beat them with your secondary options. Not many teams can do that. The Seahawks, this year, have been doing that all season long.

I would love for Russ to get the MVP recognition he deserves, but as long as we're winning, I'm not overly concerned about how.

:irishdrinkers:

 

[Sports Hernia]

I don't think it's a coincidence that since the run game and defense has been playing better, Russell's stats have gone down. We haven't needed him to throw 3-4 TD's a game, run for 40 yards and throw for 300+ yards.

Honestly I could care less if Russell wins the MVP, especially if it means we're continuing to play a more balanced game.

Yep, winning another Lombardi is the only award I care about, the rest is just icing on the championship cake.

 

[SanDiego49er]

He looks very good to me. I see no problem in how Russell Wilson is playing. He is his usual excellent self. Completing accurate passes all over the field, scrambling and buying time to throw and being clutch in the end of the half and end of the game when you need him. He is playing like a top QB and he is. There is no problem with how he is playing. It's great and one of the big reasons you team is so good.

 

[olyfan63]

MVP, for Russell? Well, I think Russell is already playing at a Super Bowl MVP level. Really, if the team just gets him there, it's pretty much money he will be SB MVP. But really, it all depends on his performance in the big game. It could be Carson or even Penny if one of them goes off in that game. This SB MVP is usually decided more on merit, actual in-game performance, not press clippings. Lamar and his Ravens have to get there, our Lamar is out of the convo altogether.

 

[Seanhawk]

MVP, for Russell? Well, I think Russell is already playing at a Super Bowl MVP level. Really, if the team just gets him there, it's pretty much money he will be SB MVP. But really, it all depends on his performance in the big game. It could be Carson or even Penny if one of them goes off in that game. This SB MVP is usually decided more on merit, actual in-game performance, not press clippings. Lamar and his Ravens have to get there, our Lamar is out of the convo altogether.

I think it goes without saying that Jackson is out of the Super Bowl MVP conversation if the Ravens don't get to the Super Bowl.

 

[Seahwkgal]

MVP, for Russell? Well, I think Russell is already playing at a Super Bowl MVP level. Really, if the team just gets him there, it's pretty much money he will be SB MVP. But really, it all depends on his performance in the big game. It could be Carson or even Penny if one of them goes off in that game. This SB MVP is usually decided more on merit, actual in-game performance, not press clippings. Lamar and his Ravens have to get there, our Lamar is out of the convo altogether.

I think it goes without saying that Jackson is out of the Super Bowl MVP conversation if the Ravens don't get to the Super Bowl.

Isn’t the MVP determined before the SB?

 

[sutz]

MVP, for Russell? Well, I think Russell is already playing at a Super Bowl MVP level. Really, if the team just gets him there, it's pretty much money he will be SB MVP. But really, it all depends on his performance in the big game. It could be Carson or even Penny if one of them goes off in that game. This SB MVP is usually decided more on merit, actual in-game performance, not press clippings. Lamar and his Ravens have to get there, our Lamar is out of the convo altogether.

I think it goes without saying that Jackson is out of the Super Bowl MVP conversation if the Ravens don't get to the Super Bowl.

Isn’t the MVP determined before the SB?

Not the SBMVP. :laugh:

I think this thread has been derailed, as usual around here. :snack:

 

[themunn]

I thought he played at an MVP level in the SF game, even if the stats didn't show it - was a great performance against a great defense with just 1 bad throw (the interception).

The performance against the Eagles again, was enough - a Metcalf drop and one real bad throw (maybe 2), the overthrow of Hollister (and potentially the interception). But if those 2 end in TDs we're calling it another MVP performance.

And on Monday we scored 37 points, with 7 scoring drives - enough to win all but 3 games of the Russell Wilson era.

But it's nice that we can look to those 3 games as him "underperforming", because when he starts performing again nobody will stand in our way.