The worst throw in Russell Wilson's career

Zebulon Dak

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Zebulon Dak":2db1qbgx said:
Torc":2db1qbgx said:
You missed the next sentence.

The successful conversion counts one point by kick; two points for a successful conversion by touchdown; or one point for a safety. The defensive team never can score on a try.

I'm trying to figure out how the offensive team could score a safety.

Maybe if the defense were to gain possession in the field of play and the return to or fumble into and out of the end zone? But then it's just 1 point instead of 2? Talk about some shit that's never happened. Interesting though for sure.

Like, the trying team can score a point on a safety if the defending team really flubs up, but the defending team can never score points on that play. That's how I read that.
 

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Offense can score a 1 pt safety if the ball finds its way into the end zone either through a blocked kick or offensive play, and the defensive player is tackled in the end zone.

To clarify, the defender must acquire possession of the ball outside of the end zone and then proceed backwards and get tackled in the end zone or run out of it.

Here's a college game with PAT kick landing short of the end zone and being run out of the EZ:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jp4TeP4 ... e=youtu.be

I guess the main issue with this is that it's unfair that the defense gets no reward for attempting to advance it. However, if they just let it go the offense can pounce on it probably and claim the 1 point themselves like a normal PAT.

EDIT: In the NFL since the ball is "dead" upon recovery, there needs to be an "impetus". So something like the defense attempts to recover the ball, muffs it, goes out of the EZ, recovered by his teammate, tackled and 1 point safety awarded to the offense.

Extremely rare event, but could happen. Figure it would happen on a blocked kick not a 2 point offensive try.
 

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hawknation2015":13rfnr41 said:
If he doesn't complete that pass, we were likely to lose. It was absolutely worth the risk, even under college rules..........
I've been hearing this for 3 days now and have even thought it myself, but we really don't know it to be true. The Seahawks' defense would've likely played it a lot different after GB got the ball with a 1 point lead rather than a 3 point lead. Not saying they wouldn't have won, but you can''t assume if A, then B in this case.
Thankfully, we'll never know.
 

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BlueBlood":hs9drmbj said:
Worst thread ever nomination?

I'm on board with the "attack the post, not the poster" concept and must say this post is an ahole.
 

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Torc":11tkds4u said:
jkitsune":11tkds4u said:
I'm sorry, I feel like nobody saw what I said. I'm really excited about this new rule I've discovered, so I'm going to repeat it for full effect:

"if Russell Wilson had run 99 yards backwards and out the back of our own endzone, the defensive team would've gotten 1 point."

This is in the rules according to what I just read. It has never happened. But THEORETICALLY, a team could therefore finish an NFL game with a SINGLE point, if the above happened after one team's touchdown.

This shatters my paradigms. ALL THE PARADIGMS. All of them are SHATTERED.

You missed the next sentence.

The successful conversion counts one point by kick; two points for a successful conversion by touchdown; or one point for a safety. The defensive team never can score on a try.

I'm trying to figure out how the offensive team could score a safety.

Defense can't take possession of the ball. However, if an offensive player runs out the back of his own end zone, the defense never gains possession and the result is a safety. At the very least, Wikipedia states that this is still a 1-point safety for the defense, but it has never happened so I'm having trouble finding any additional information to corroborate that for an NFL game. I'm guessing you're probably right, that it would just blow the conversion dead.

Still new information for me for a college game, but less paradigm-shattering I suppose.

An offensive team can score a safety on a conversion if a kick is blocked and then rolls into the endzone and is recovered there, I believe.
 
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