MontanaHawk05
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1. The Packers like to throw out of run-friendly looks and ran with a striking amount of heavy protect and tight formations (as opposed to out-wide) to assist in pass protection. That accounts for much of the ineffectiveness of our defensive line in that game. Their play designs also include a ton of misdirection. It was a mental challenge for any young defense and this one just didn't have the answers on key plays.
2. Speaking of, Jacobs is one of the best running backs in the league. He punishes you for the slightest holes, makes guys miss in the open field, and creates havoc in general. It's not as if we were out there getting gouged by Justice Hill or something. Raiders fans are still on suicide watch over the team having let him walk in free agency.
3. That offensive line is one of maybe four in the league whose fans aren't constantly griping about it. They're very good. They get off their blocks, put a hat on each guy, and hold him. They just do it. It's tough for any defensive line to find success against that.
4. There's an interesting vid on Twitter of Tariq Woolen's four back-breaking plays in this game that honestly might have almost made the difference singlehandedly. Awful. He's dogging plays, not thinking, and on the first Doubs touchdown he was going for the strip instead of the tackle and just got out-wrestled. Josh Jobe is perilously close to outplaying him, despite a bad DPI of his own.
5. Fieldgulls had an article pointing to our rookies all having a bad day Sunday. Sataoa Laumea had his worst game. Tyrice Knight had some spectacular, untimely whiffs, including a bizarrely athletic missed tackle on Jacobs in open field during the first quarter. Also a couple of plays where he positioned himself badly on obvious assignments, like the Doubs touchdown, where he fell to temptation by presnap motion.
6. It was painful watching our D against jet sweeps. Infuriating to see vets who should know better, like Nwosu, Dre'Mont Jones and Rayshawn Jenkins, blithely overpursuing the play and getting burned by Jayden Reed. In fairness, Reed does that to every team, which is why they love to use him there. (It's worth mentioning that Jones has actually been showing a lot of hustle and even some pressures to show for it this year, despite me being hard on him.)
7. One rookie who had a very good day was Jalen Sundell, our UDFA backup center, who came in after Oluwatimi's departure. PFF had good grades on him and the tape backs it up.
8. Gotta give credit to the pull game on our offensive line. They're good at it and they make big things happen out of those schemes a lot. Unfortunately, it seems to be one of the few things they're good at.
9. This defense has playmakers. Leonard Williams, Ernest Jones IV, and I daresay Coby Bryant. I'm struck how often the latter can be found corkstopping potentially big plays with nice open-field tackle work, instead of them going the distance. It speaks to his range, his discipline, and his reading of plays. He's come a long ways.
10. I'm going to die on this hill: Geno isn't the problem. You can all see how bad this line is. People love to obsess over the TD/INT ratio, but at the end of the day, despite this OL...it's a positive ratio. The fact it's that HIGH, that he's third in passing yards with a 70% completion rate, that he's making multiple elite throws every game despite the poor situation...sorry, haters, he's an elite QB, at least until Grubb sabotages him in the red zone. He's not going to lead us to a Super Bowl, we should draft a QBOTF at the first chance, but he's an elite QB. Those statements aren't contradictory. Not in this context.
11. John Schneider's "guards are overpaid" comment is going to be what gets him canned at this rate. That's the kind of comment GM's train themselves out of making in public because if they don't come through at that position, you look doubly stupid. Laumea still has a chance to work out but his pass protection has never been strong. Laken Tomlinson...I don't know what he was thinking with him. Awful signing.
12. You Sam Howell truthers...forgive the pun, but it's time to pack it in. He ain't it. Throwing stick into basic Cover 2, getting coverage sacked with not one but two alert options on the field, bailing on the pocket for no reason a la Russell Wilson (but without the magic) and cutting your options in half, throwing at guys' feet...just get Geno back out there. Anyone who played fantasy football last year already knows exactly what we have with Howell.
13. Grubb. He's going to need a long offseason spent staring in the mirror. I'm not sure what the logic was with this hire. Why is a college offensive line coach and D2 offensive coordinator serving as an NFL coordinator? That said, I've seen enough to where I think he deserves a second season.
14. I'm not sure what to think about the play-calling balance. With LB Quay Walker out, it feels like the Seahawks missed a major opportunity to run the ball. Then again, you fall behind by two scores and MOST teams are going to start abandoning the run.
15. The defense really buckled down after the first quarter. They kept fighting and had a turnover and key stops to show for it. Love had to start making plays with his feet in the second half. Unfortunately, he's one of those guys who will seriously burn you in that dimension. I'd mentioned before the game that the last time this defense played a QB who could both make plays from the pocket and show off plus mobility was Josh Allen, and...well, I won't remind you of what happened there. I noted the Bills also had success against Seattle when throwing out of heavy looks. Mike will need to work on solutions against play action.
16. The Packers got really lucky late in the second on a wounded duck. Big Cat jumped offsides, Jarran Reed got in Love's face, and Love just put it up for grabs - but Coby Bryant miscalculates the grab and Tucker Kraft was there to bring it in. This on 2nd and 12 on the Packers' own 12, and it led to a Packers FG. It was just that kind of day for the Seahawks.
17. I don't know why people thought this team was becoming dominant. This four-game winning streak featured us beating Kyler Murray twice, Brock Purdy without weapons, and 2024 Aaron Rodgers. IT's nice that we could shut those guys down so thoroughly and it does speak to genuine talent on the team, but the Packers? They'll likely be in the NFC championship along with the Lions. Eagles and Vikings fans are just sitting around waiting for their QBs to get exposed in the playoffs again. The Packers aren't just good, they're probably Top 5. It's alright. We need another season to think about the big dance.
2. Speaking of, Jacobs is one of the best running backs in the league. He punishes you for the slightest holes, makes guys miss in the open field, and creates havoc in general. It's not as if we were out there getting gouged by Justice Hill or something. Raiders fans are still on suicide watch over the team having let him walk in free agency.
3. That offensive line is one of maybe four in the league whose fans aren't constantly griping about it. They're very good. They get off their blocks, put a hat on each guy, and hold him. They just do it. It's tough for any defensive line to find success against that.
4. There's an interesting vid on Twitter of Tariq Woolen's four back-breaking plays in this game that honestly might have almost made the difference singlehandedly. Awful. He's dogging plays, not thinking, and on the first Doubs touchdown he was going for the strip instead of the tackle and just got out-wrestled. Josh Jobe is perilously close to outplaying him, despite a bad DPI of his own.
5. Fieldgulls had an article pointing to our rookies all having a bad day Sunday. Sataoa Laumea had his worst game. Tyrice Knight had some spectacular, untimely whiffs, including a bizarrely athletic missed tackle on Jacobs in open field during the first quarter. Also a couple of plays where he positioned himself badly on obvious assignments, like the Doubs touchdown, where he fell to temptation by presnap motion.
6. It was painful watching our D against jet sweeps. Infuriating to see vets who should know better, like Nwosu, Dre'Mont Jones and Rayshawn Jenkins, blithely overpursuing the play and getting burned by Jayden Reed. In fairness, Reed does that to every team, which is why they love to use him there. (It's worth mentioning that Jones has actually been showing a lot of hustle and even some pressures to show for it this year, despite me being hard on him.)
7. One rookie who had a very good day was Jalen Sundell, our UDFA backup center, who came in after Oluwatimi's departure. PFF had good grades on him and the tape backs it up.
8. Gotta give credit to the pull game on our offensive line. They're good at it and they make big things happen out of those schemes a lot. Unfortunately, it seems to be one of the few things they're good at.
9. This defense has playmakers. Leonard Williams, Ernest Jones IV, and I daresay Coby Bryant. I'm struck how often the latter can be found corkstopping potentially big plays with nice open-field tackle work, instead of them going the distance. It speaks to his range, his discipline, and his reading of plays. He's come a long ways.
10. I'm going to die on this hill: Geno isn't the problem. You can all see how bad this line is. People love to obsess over the TD/INT ratio, but at the end of the day, despite this OL...it's a positive ratio. The fact it's that HIGH, that he's third in passing yards with a 70% completion rate, that he's making multiple elite throws every game despite the poor situation...sorry, haters, he's an elite QB, at least until Grubb sabotages him in the red zone. He's not going to lead us to a Super Bowl, we should draft a QBOTF at the first chance, but he's an elite QB. Those statements aren't contradictory. Not in this context.
11. John Schneider's "guards are overpaid" comment is going to be what gets him canned at this rate. That's the kind of comment GM's train themselves out of making in public because if they don't come through at that position, you look doubly stupid. Laumea still has a chance to work out but his pass protection has never been strong. Laken Tomlinson...I don't know what he was thinking with him. Awful signing.
12. You Sam Howell truthers...forgive the pun, but it's time to pack it in. He ain't it. Throwing stick into basic Cover 2, getting coverage sacked with not one but two alert options on the field, bailing on the pocket for no reason a la Russell Wilson (but without the magic) and cutting your options in half, throwing at guys' feet...just get Geno back out there. Anyone who played fantasy football last year already knows exactly what we have with Howell.
13. Grubb. He's going to need a long offseason spent staring in the mirror. I'm not sure what the logic was with this hire. Why is a college offensive line coach and D2 offensive coordinator serving as an NFL coordinator? That said, I've seen enough to where I think he deserves a second season.
14. I'm not sure what to think about the play-calling balance. With LB Quay Walker out, it feels like the Seahawks missed a major opportunity to run the ball. Then again, you fall behind by two scores and MOST teams are going to start abandoning the run.
15. The defense really buckled down after the first quarter. They kept fighting and had a turnover and key stops to show for it. Love had to start making plays with his feet in the second half. Unfortunately, he's one of those guys who will seriously burn you in that dimension. I'd mentioned before the game that the last time this defense played a QB who could both make plays from the pocket and show off plus mobility was Josh Allen, and...well, I won't remind you of what happened there. I noted the Bills also had success against Seattle when throwing out of heavy looks. Mike will need to work on solutions against play action.
16. The Packers got really lucky late in the second on a wounded duck. Big Cat jumped offsides, Jarran Reed got in Love's face, and Love just put it up for grabs - but Coby Bryant miscalculates the grab and Tucker Kraft was there to bring it in. This on 2nd and 12 on the Packers' own 12, and it led to a Packers FG. It was just that kind of day for the Seahawks.
17. I don't know why people thought this team was becoming dominant. This four-game winning streak featured us beating Kyler Murray twice, Brock Purdy without weapons, and 2024 Aaron Rodgers. IT's nice that we could shut those guys down so thoroughly and it does speak to genuine talent on the team, but the Packers? They'll likely be in the NFC championship along with the Lions. Eagles and Vikings fans are just sitting around waiting for their QBs to get exposed in the playoffs again. The Packers aren't just good, they're probably Top 5. It's alright. We need another season to think about the big dance.
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