Russell Wilson sets deadline for new contract

[SoulfishHawk]

He could throw 5 touchdowns and 1 pick, and Tical would dwell on the 1 pick, all day long...…….
Sad

 

[JGreen79]

He could throw 5 touchdowns and 1 pick, and Tical would dwell on the 1 pick, all day long...…….
Sad

And the pick was a hail mary at the end of the first half, where two receivers fought with each other to make the catch only to knock the ball directly into the lap of a defender who fell on the ground.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Accurate. Shoot, it's his fault when 4 of the 5 lineman don't block for him :lol:

 

[Seymour]

Does that take into account the FACT that he holds onto it longer than everyone else? Wonder why he does that. Something to ponder, perhaps.

Ponder it? Why it's obvious if you know anything about Pete Carroll.
"It's all about the ball" and not making turnovers. Pete has hammered that into him since day 1 and Wilson has performed according to instructions like a master. He doesn't often through into tight windows unless it's where only the receiver can get the ball, and have you bothered comparing his WR corps talent level compared to other top 5 passing attacks?
Obviously not...because to you he is simply "too short". :roll:

Ohh...and your FACT is more fiction. He is tied for 3rd longest in 2018 with Watson.
In 2016 he was 20th longest and got rid of it quicker than Rodgers, Luck, Newton, Rivers, Wentz :177692:

 

[IndyHawk]

Does that take into account the FACT that he holds onto it longer than everyone else? Wonder why he does that. Something to ponder, perhaps.

Ponder it? Why it's obvious if you know anything about Pete Carroll.
"It's all about the ball" and not making turnovers. Pete has hammered that into him since day 1 and Wilson has performed according to instructions like a master. He doesn't often through into tight windows unless it's where only the receiver can get the ball, and have you bothered comparing his WR corps talent level compared to other top 5 passing attacks?
Obviously not...because to you he is simply "too short". :roll:

Ohh...and your FACT is more fiction. He is tied for 3rd longest in 2018 with Watson.
In 2016 he was 20th longest and got rid of it quicker than Rodgers, Luck, Newton, Rivers, Wentz :177692:

So we can conclude that he is slowing down fast? :lol:

 

[Seymour]

Does that take into account the FACT that he holds onto it longer than everyone else? Wonder why he does that. Something to ponder, perhaps.

Ponder it? Why it's obvious if you know anything about Pete Carroll.
"It's all about the ball" and not making turnovers. Pete has hammered that into him since day 1 and Wilson has performed according to instructions like a master. He doesn't often through into tight windows unless it's where only the receiver can get the ball, and have you bothered comparing his WR corps talent level compared to other top 5 passing attacks?
Obviously not...because to you he is simply "too short". :roll:

Ohh...and your FACT is more fiction. He is tied for 3rd longest in 2018 with Watson.
In 2016 he was 20th longest and got rid of it quicker than Rodgers, Luck, Newton, Rivers, Wentz :177692:

So we can conclude that he is slowing down fast? :lol:

Sure, the haters will conclude that. :snack:

I tend to use REAL FACTS. Like in 2016 we had the 25th best rushing attack and started throwing more quick timing routes to offset the poor rushing attack (like the approach heavy passing teams use--(this is on coaching not our QB :roll: ) And in 2018 we were back to the Pete run, run, bomb approach.

It's also noteworthy that only a moron would want to take the top dynamic passer and make him a 2.2 second pocket passer and take his off script big plays off the table by removing the namic from dynamic (notice how that = dy?) and not allowing his gift of buying time so guys can get separation.

 

[hawkfan68]

Pre-Wilson the Seahawks were a 7 win team. That was with Pete Carroll, John Schneider, Marshawn, Doug Baldwin, and a great defense. With Russ they became a 10+ win team instantly and a Superbowl contender. That is evidence enough for me on what impact Russ has on this team.

 

[Tical21]

Pre-Wilson the Seahawks were a 7 win team. That was with Pete Carroll, John Schneider, Marshawn, Doug Baldwin, and a great defense. With Russ they became a 10+ win team instantly and a Superbowl contender. That is evidence enough for me on what impact Russ has on this team.

It had nothing to do with all of those young players not being rookies anymore?

 

[hawkfan68]

Pre-Wilson the Seahawks were a 7 win team. That was with Pete Carroll, John Schneider, Marshawn, Doug Baldwin, and a great defense. With Russ they became a 10+ win team instantly and a Superbowl contender. That is evidence enough for me on what impact Russ has on this team.

It had nothing to do with all of those young players not being rookies anymore?

Maybe....but Russell Wilson won 11 games, as a rookie QB, which is something Matt Hasselbeck, Charlie Whitehiurst, and Tarvaris Jackson couldn't do as veteran QBs in the PC/JS era.

 

[lukerguy]

Pre-Wilson the Seahawks were a 7 win team. That was with Pete Carroll, John Schneider, Marshawn, Doug Baldwin, and a great defense. With Russ they became a 10+ win team instantly and a Superbowl contender. That is evidence enough for me on what impact Russ has on this team.

The Seahawks turned over nearly 100% of their roster with draft picks and risks from other teams and won 7 games. I think Russ is great, but let's not start making stuff up.

 

[Scorpion05]

Pre-Wilson the Seahawks were a 7 win team. That was with Pete Carroll, John Schneider, Marshawn, Doug Baldwin, and a great defense. With Russ they became a 10+ win team instantly and a Superbowl contender. That is evidence enough for me on what impact Russ has on this team.

The Seahawks turned over nearly 100% of their roster with draft picks and risks from other teams and won 7 games. I think Russ is great, but let's not start making stuff up.

Not really

People give Baker Mayfield credit even though Dorsey came and flipped the roster. They give Mahomes credit when under Reid the Chiefs have been very successful and constantly made the playoffs

A great defense needs an offense that compliments it. Complimentary football is a real thing. There have been several number 1 defenses over the years, and they didn’t go far because they didn’t have the Quarterback

It’s completely logical to argue that yes, indeed Pete did not have success pre-Wilson. And that Wilson, a 3rd round rookie played so well he basically stole the job. Beat the Patriots and Belicheck in a clutch thriller. Russell Wilson as a rookie was amazing, especially when you add in his rushing yards. Lynch also had his best years with Wilson

 

[Tusc2000]

The only way a Russ trade could work for us is to get the # 1 overall pick and select Kyler Murray. I don't see how that happens. And I don't see anyone else playing QB for us besides Russ or Murray. Not if we want to go to the playoffs, that is.

 

[Sgt. Largent]

The only way a Russ trade could work for us is to get the # 1 overall pick and select Kyler Murray. I don't see how that happens. And I don't see anyone else playing QB for us besides Russ or Murray. Not if we want to go to the playoffs, that is.

Why do you say this?

I don't think Pete's offensive philosophy is beholden to a Russell Wilson style QB. In fact, I think Pete's offensive philosophy has shown that he can have different style of QB's..............even going back to USC with having both drop back QB's (Palmer) and allusive scrambling type QB's (Sanchez).

If Russell gets traded, it's 100% because Pete and John came to the conclusion that they just don't want to hamstring their cap by forking over 35-40M per year to Russell, and they think they can build another SB contender without him.

It won't be because they have to have Murray or another Wilson type QB.

 

[sc85sis]

Down 16 w/5 minutes to go in the NFC Championship vs. the Packers. Russ flat out CARRIED that team to victory, period. He's clearly just average. I mean, Matty Hass was 10 times the QB that Russ ever has been :roll:
But yeah, in the Super Bowl, it was somehow his fault. Some things never change. Can't believe he allowed Brady to run up and down the field on the Defense in the 4th quarter. Thx Russ
Cheers :irishdrinkers:

Careful with that game, though. He'll just argue that it was Russ's fault in the first place with all those interceptions; it was our defense that kept that game in reach. And he'd be right about that part.

But football is more than a tale of 45 minutes. It's about 60 minutes, and Russ was clutch at the end, along with some luck (onside kick, etc.).

If Kearse didn’t continually let the ball bounce off his hands, we would quite possibly have won that game easily.

 

[lukerguy]

Pre-Wilson the Seahawks were a 7 win team. That was with Pete Carroll, John Schneider, Marshawn, Doug Baldwin, and a great defense. With Russ they became a 10+ win team instantly and a Superbowl contender. That is evidence enough for me on what impact Russ has on this team.

The Seahawks turned over nearly 100% of their roster with draft picks and risks from other teams and won 7 games. I think Russ is great, but let's not start making stuff up.

Not really

People give Baker Mayfield credit even though Dorsey came and flipped the roster. They give Mahomes credit when under Reid the Chiefs have been very successful and constantly made the playoffs

A great defense needs an offense that compliments it. Complimentary football is a real thing. There have been several number 1 defenses over the years, and they didn’t go far because they didn’t have the Quarterback

It’s completely logical to argue that yes, indeed Pete did not have success pre-Wilson. And that Wilson, a 3rd round rookie played so well he basically stole the job. Beat the Patriots and Belicheck in a clutch thriller. Russell Wilson as a rookie was amazing, especially when you add in his rushing yards. Lynch also had his best years with Wilson

I'm confused. You kind of contradict yourself. The first statement says that Dorsey should get the credit, not the QB.. Then you go on to say that the QB is the most important..

My only point was that the Seahawks won 7 games with a roster with nearly 100% turn over when they got in.. If you don't think this roster with the way they run the ball couldn't win 6-8 games without Wilson, then you're crazy.

 

[sc85sis]

Wilson is only the second QB in NFL history to have a passer rating over 100. He is sting at 100.3.

Aaron Rodgers leads at 103.1.

Some of the guys following them:

Drew Brees: 97.7
Tom Brady: 97.6
Tony Romo: 97.1
Steve Young: 96.8
Peyton Manning: 96.5
Philip Rivers: 95.5

 

[scutterhawk]

Does that take into account the FACT that he holds onto it longer than everyone else? Wonder why he does that. Something to ponder, perhaps.

Hmm, so we all can see, that your "FACT", isn't at all a "FACT", nice try though :lol:

 

[SoulfishHawk]

And behind one of the worst pass blocking O lines for most of his career. FACT
He has made more spectacular plays than just about any QB in the league, while running for his life. Very few who have ever played the game could make the spectacular/ridiculous plays he makes. FACT
Most wins in the first 7 years of his career than ANY QB in the history of the game. FACT

 

[scutterhawk]

Pre-Wilson the Seahawks were a 7 win team. That was with Pete Carroll, John Schneider, Marshawn, Doug Baldwin, and a great defense. With Russ they became a 10+ win team instantly and a Superbowl contender. That is evidence enough for me on what impact Russ has on this team.

It had nothing to do with all of those young players not being rookies anymore?

Are you sure that you don't want to quit while you're ahead?....Yeah...I didn't think so :laugh:

 

[SoulfishHawk]

I need to make up a quick batch, this is pure gold...... :snack: