SoulfishHawk
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Funny, either super bowl games w/T-Jack or Flynn.......nope
I was feeling nostalgic so I'm bringing back this "sky is falling" thread based on a "sackmaggeddon" article about RW being on pace for 72 sacks.Palmegranite":18ea43gf said:Fade":18ea43gf said:http://sportspressnw.com/2209837/2015/wilson-stays-on-pace-for-record-pancaking
Would be tied for 2nd most in NFL history.
For Reference
2012 - 33
2013 - 44
2014 - 42
2015 - 72 (on pace)
What do you guys think?
How to best minimize the damage going forward this season. And what should change long term, this is not sustainable.
On the other hand, Wilson is verrrrrry unlikely to stay on this pace for the rest of the season. He could end the season with 19 sacks, setting a new personal record for least sacks in a season. You don't know.
Here's another way to look at it.
Good thing the NFC championship game from last year wasn't early in the season. Wilson was sacked 5 times. At that rate he would have been on pace for 80 sacks!
justafan":2ap7pigx said:Counting the sacks doesnt even give you the whole picture.
Just read this on Sheil Kapadia's blog over on ESPN. For those who haven't seen this yet, this is one real encouraging stat ...
http://espn.go.com/blog/seattle-sea...that-matter-with-seahawks-qb-russell-wilson-24.1 -- The sack percentage on Wilson since Week 8. That's the ninth-best mark in the league. In Weeks 1 through 7, it was 11.7 percent, which ranked 32nd. The offensive line has really done a nice job of keeping him clean.
Now, some of that has to do with Russell Wilson, who has been getting the ball out quicker in recent weeks. Kapadia notes that against the Steelers, he was getting the ball out faster than he had all year long. That said, a lot of credit obviously needs to go to the Offensive Line (specifically Patrick Lewis I'd say) for just flat out doing a better job of giving Wilson protection. If that trend continues, this Seahawks team is going to be like Godzilla stomping on Tokyo to teams heading down the stretch and into the playoffs.
hawk45":hs3s0clk said:What's the adjustment to the offensive scheme changes? Defenses will adapt eventually. Do they...rush fewer and flood the zones? Press our receivers off the line more?
I worry our offense will then be glacially slow to counter the adjustments and hope opponents don't figure things out until next year.
Perhaps this time (unlike Russ's first year with the read zone) there is no adjustment that can completely shut the passing O down again. Perhaps if they press, or rush fewer, they just give Russ more time to find openings or at worst enable sandlot mode.
I do not expect our offense to click at the beginning of next year at all though. I expect us to struggle once more in passing for 10 games.
Fade":a505wg0h said:Thank god the changes were made.
1. Patrick Lewis for Drew Nowak, and have Patrick Lewis handle the protections.
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2. Britt & Gilliam have gotten better.
3. Made tweaks to some of the routes so the ball can come out quicker.
4. Bevell calling the game better situationally.
5. Using the middle of the field, and in breaking routes more.
in other words O-Line & Playcalling.
If they can keep this up it will be a special season.
hawk45":17aboy4u said:What troubles me about the theory that Pete was shackling Bevell is that with our team without wideouts with great physical characteristics and with our obvious cheap approach on OL I don't see Pete vetoing a Bevell suggestion to spread the field and run combo routes as long as Bevell promised to still run the ball a lot. Would Pete say no, sorry, it's not enough that we run but we must run out of play action and with long developing iso routes? Why would Pete be against quicker reads for the QB?
hawk45":30qqu1hu said:You may be right RichNHansom. If you are and Pete put Russ behind the 8 ball by disallowing anything but long developing sideline iso routes then I think that was a mistake. Well...maybe a mistake, as I'll explain below.
Still don't understand how eschewing combo routes and making reads harder for your QB, as well as using longer developing routes behind a weak line accomplishes minimizing risk. You are assured your receivers are blanketed and your QB is under siege and beaten up.
Just seems to me like you trade one risk (using short routes and the middle of the field) for another risk (QB beaten up and never getting to execute on schedule because routes are DOA).
But, with Russell's legs and Marshawn I suppose it let Russ grow without the usual Andrew Luck pick-a-thon while we still accomplished our team goals?
Hey if we don't fail to counter adjust for 3 years again and continue to be productive on O, perhaps it was brilliant of Pete and Bevell after all.
Although they were playing with franchise killing fire getting Russell's butt kicked so hard. So after thinking about it, no, it wasn't brilliant it was penny wise and pound foolish.
Palmegranite":1pgud0hp said:I was feeling nostalgic so I'm bringing back this "sky is falling" thread based on a "sackmaggeddon" article about RW being on pace for 72 sacks.Palmegranite":1pgud0hp said:Fade":1pgud0hp said:http://sportspressnw.com/2209837/2015/wilson-stays-on-pace-for-record-pancaking
Would be tied for 2nd most in NFL history.
For Reference
2012 - 33
2013 - 44
2014 - 42
2015 - 72 (on pace)
What do you guys think?
How to best minimize the damage going forward this season. And what should change long term, this is not sustainable.
On the other hand, Wilson is verrrrrry unlikely to stay on this pace for the rest of the season. He could end the season with 19 sacks, setting a new personal record for least sacks in a season. You don't know.
Here's another way to look at it.
Good thing the NFC championship game from last year wasn't early in the season. Wilson was sacked 5 times. At that rate he would have been on pace for 80 sacks!
Well if you use the sacks from the last 4 games(the article used stats from the first 4 games), he's on pace to be sacked ~45 times, pretty close to the norm for his carreer. ha ha ha...
rideaducati":3cbkk84j said:Largent80":3cbkk84j said:Would you rather have sacks, or interceptions / fumbles. Pick your poison.
It is impossible to not see how atrocious this o-line is.
The line isn't good, but it is far from atrocious
Palmegranite":yxf20fgf said:Cam Newton, the league MVP, was sacked seven times. If he keeps to this pace next season, let's extrapolate. Wow that works out to about 112 sacks! Which in my books is way more than 72.