Rumor: RW asking to be the highest paid player in history

[MizzouHawkGal]

I also think AP is still #1, but 2-4 is a toss up for me between Lynch, Charles, McCoy. I don't think it's crazy if someone thinks Lynch is #1 or #4.

Marshawn is $$ though, wouldn't trade him for any other RB.

Neither would I, the man is primetime just like Russell Wilson and Richard Sherman. Even though I think both Peterson and Charles are on a whole other level.

 

[Northwest Seahawk]

Adrian Peterson among one or two others just off the top of my head. He's top 5 no question but number 1? Not even close.

He's been great in the regular season and superhuman in the post season . Not even close it pains me to hear you say that.

 

[theincrediblesok]

Remember when Golden Tate left on a lowball offered from the FO, and we sured missed him last year. Don't forget we couldn't keep Red or Clemons, and our pass rush took a dip. You let Wilson walk then it's going to be a bigger impact, game over Seattle.

lol at comparing Wilson's negotiations to Tate first of all.

The Tate loss was magnified by Percy being a failure.

The FO will not let Wilson walk or even remotely taste free agency. He won't even get to sniff it.

You think I want Wilson to walk, come on now I want him to stay as long as he can still perform at a consistent level.

He's been in the league for 3 years, what are you talking about??

We talking about practice man, practice.

 

[MizzouHawkGal]

Heh.

 

[Rob12]

I also think AP is still #1, but 2-4 is a toss up for me between Lynch, Charles, McCoy. I don't think it's crazy if someone thinks Lynch is #1 or #4.

Marshawn is $$ though, wouldn't trade him for any other RB.

Not for me. Beast after contact is the best in the game. Not only that, but he's the one guy that I can point to and say that he built this team's identity. His durability is second to none.

Beast for AP? No.
Beast for Charles? No.
Beast for Shady? Not even close.

 

[Rob12]

I also think AP is still #1, but 2-4 is a toss up for me between Lynch, Charles, McCoy. I don't think it's crazy if someone thinks Lynch is #1 or #4.

Marshawn is $$ though, wouldn't trade him for any other RB.

Neither would I, the man is primetime just like Russell Wilson and Richard Sherman. Even though I think both Peterson and Charles are on a whole other level.

If they're on a whole other level, why wouldn't you trade Beast straight up for either one of them? When I say he's the best, I'm even taking the 12 out of me. He runs like no one I've seen. I don't know if there's a back in the history of the game that has been harder to tackle, or who wears a defense into the ground like Beast does.

 

[MizzouHawkGal]

I also think AP is still #1, but 2-4 is a toss up for me between Lynch, Charles, McCoy. I don't think it's crazy if someone thinks Lynch is #1 or #4.

Marshawn is $$ though, wouldn't trade him for any other RB.

Neither would I, the man is primetime just like Russell Wilson and Richard Sherman. Even though I think both Peterson and Charles are on a whole other level.

If they're on a whole other level, why wouldn't you trade Beast straight up for either one of them? When I say he's the best, I'm even taking the 12 out of me. He runs like no one I've seen. I don't know if there's a back in the history of the game that has been harder to tackle, or who wears a defense into the ground like Beast does.

Both the others are flat better if all things are even but they aren't. Fact is our OL and offensive philosophy is built for a Lynch type not a Charles or Peterson type. So no, I wouldn't do any kind of straight swap.

 

[volsunghawk]

Well 6 QBs from that list have won at least one SB

Exactly!! And they ALL got paid and haven't gone back since!! Exactly!

Except, you know, Brady - who has gotten paid handsomely and gone back to the SB multiple times. Even got a win recently.

Manning was well compensated by the time he got his ring. So was Drew Brees.

And Aaron Rodgers - the highest paid QB in the league - was pretty damn close to getting back to the SB this past season and likely would have if only a couple of plays had gone the other way.

Brady got paid after his second one, and the Pats immediately stopped winning Super Bowls until he agreed to take a smaller contract, then wa-la they went back and won again.

So in the two SBs the Pats lost to the Giants, those amazing catches that allowed the Giants to eke out a victory both times were the result of Brady's contract?

 

[Hasselbeck]

So in the two SBs the Pats lost to the Giants, those amazing catches that allowed the Giants to eke out a victory both times were the result of Brady's contract?

Exactly. The money saved would have allowed the Patriots to hire snipers during each Super Bowl, and thus.. said football would have been shot out of the sky and the Patriots would have secured 2 more Super Bowls.

 

[RolandDeschain]

So in the two SBs the Pats lost to the Giants, those amazing catches that allowed the Giants to eke out a victory both times were the result of Brady's contract?

What, you don't see that correlation? I thought it was obvious.

 

[Tical21]

We don't need none of them lessons Frenchy

 

[AVL]

Give Wilson a record amount by a dollar. Have a parade. Hope like hell it works.

 

[Anthony!]

Interesting so only 2 times since the salary cap era has a team won an SB without a franchise QB. out of the 4 times a #1 defense won the Sb which is only 20% of the time 3 of them had a franchise QB. HMM seems it is previous obvious we need a franchise Qb and luckily we have one.

I'm beginning to wonder who you're arguing with, and what your point is.

Should we have RW as our franchise QB? Yup!!! We have a greater chance of winning with him than without.

But at "any" cost? Do we have the money to pay him what he's asking? I sure hope so, but if not, then them's the breaks. On to plan B.

And I'm OK with that. I hope you'll be as well should he walk. It may become insufferable here if you cannot accept it. :lol:

Dude I am a Hawks fan first, the fact I think our best chance of winning is with Wilson, the fact I hate they are playing this stupid game with him but cower down to Lynch does not change that. Should he walk no Worries I will still be a Hawks, and also a fan of wherever he goes, unless they play us. I just find it interesting some on here are with regards to Wilson, when I recall most saying we need to keep Sherman, Et and even give into Lynch at all costs.

 

[Anthony!]

I do not agree that the act a deal is not done is proof that Wilsons camp is the issue. For all we know it is the FO that is the issue. Maybe all Wilsons a camp wants is 5-6 years at 20 mil, but the FO only wants 4, All there other contract are only 4 years. IF that is the case than the FO is the problem. AS to

"Getting to the playoffs is always fun, and I'd rather go than not. But how long can we field a SB-caliber (not merely "playoffs") team if he takes 17-20% of the salary cap by himself?"

How many more times with we be even a playoff team without Wilson and no franchise QB? To me you have to be bale to get to the playoffs to even get to the SB, so that comes first. No playoffs, no SB. Also GB came within 1 play of the SB, Denver went last year, Brady this year. You can pay a QB top money and still make the SB. You just need your FO to do their jobs.

When has THIS FO not shown the willingness to pay their players? Sherman was given the richest cornerback contract ever when he signed his extension. Same with Earl. Chancellor got a great deal. Bennett, despite the fact that he's all the sudden unhappy, was paid well. Same with Avril. Beast got a raise, which was well deserved considering what he has meant to this organization. KJ was rewarded with a great deal.

This FO is not shy about paying their players, Anthony. No one can sit here and say that they make a habit out of lowballing players. And quite honestly, I don't believe for one second that they are lowballing Russell.

Russell wants more than $20M a year. I think the hang up is the first year of the deal. He wants his rookie deal ripped up. That simply isn't feasible. If that happens, the cuts start now - and you can forget about Wagner's extension. Paying Russell beginning this season will weaken this team on so many levels. I think that Russ wants $23-25M per season, beginning in 2015. Maybe the Seahawks are meeting his number but the hang up is about the 2015 season.

People will assume that the delay is coming from Russell's camp because this team pays their players. That's a very logical assumption to make, don't you think? I think we owe them the benefit of the doubt on that.

Russell is playing hardball because he can. But for the FO, there's 52 other players that have to be factored into the equation.

I know you love Russell, but recent history would suggest that it's not this FO that is delaying a deal from getting done. I think that Russell has an insane amount of leverage here and he is using it.

Well so far they have not to Wilson and let me remind you the FO said they do not renegotiate contract and yet they did with Lynch. As to who is delaying ahh if the deal we are told is the offer it is the FO for low balling from the start. 4 years 80 mil is not a fair deal at all. SO as of now I say it is the FO for making a low ball offer.

 

[Anthony!]

I do not think he is the best in football, top 5 yes probably even top 3 but not the best. I did not think he was the best in 2011 before Wilson so it has little to o with Wilson.

Just seems odd that you spend so much time passionately advocating for one Seahawk, and then turn around and argue AGAINST another....weird.

Lynch is easily more highly regarded at his position in relation to Wilson at his, at least for now. Why would you, as a Seahawk fan, have a problem with that, and try to downplay it?

Again, just weird.

I am not arguing against Lynch or Lynch being a top RB. As I said he is top 5 and maybe top 3 but not #1. As to the regarded and all that, Lynch has been in the league longer, and we are a run first team so of course he would be. Ass into that Wilson being a 3rd rounder and drafted same year as Luck and there you go.

Lynch is the best running back in the game. Who is honestly better?

Dude if you read I already stated a few who are better or at least have performed better. McCoy being one of them

 

[Anthony!]

I also think AP is still #1, but 2-4 is a toss up for me between Lynch, Charles, McCoy. I don't think it's crazy if someone thinks Lynch is #1 or #4.

Marshawn is $$ though, wouldn't trade him for any other RB.

Neither would I, the man is primetime just like Russell Wilson and Richard Sherman. Even though I think both Peterson and Charles are on a whole other level.

I never said I would trade Lynch either just that to me he is not #1

 

[Hawkpower]

Interesting so only 2 times since the salary cap era has a team won an SB without a franchise QB. out of the 4 times a #1 defense won the Sb which is only 20% of the time 3 of them had a franchise QB. HMM seems it is previous obvious we need a franchise Qb and luckily we have one.

I'm beginning to wonder who you're arguing with, and what your point is.

Should we have RW as our franchise QB? Yup!!! We have a greater chance of winning with him than without.

But at "any" cost? Do we have the money to pay him what he's asking? I sure hope so, but if not, then them's the breaks. On to plan B.

And I'm OK with that. I hope you'll be as well should he walk. It may become insufferable here if you cannot accept it. :lol:

Dude I am a Hawks fan first, the fact I think our best chance of winning is with Wilson, the fact I hate they are playing this stupid game with him but cower down to Lynch does not change that. Should he walk no Worries I will still be a Hawks, and also a fan of wherever he goes, unless they play us. I just find it interesting some on here are with regards to Wilson, when I recall most saying we need to keep Sherman, Et and even give into Lynch at all costs.

"give in to Lynch at all costs"

"cower to Lynch"

More Lynch negativity from you. Your constant insistence of valuing inferior running backs over our own guy, your repeated slamming of his contract dealings in regarding to the FO is strange. You have repeated the same thing (they gave in to lynch, why arent they giving in to Wilson??????) multiple times in this thread alone.

Either you don't like the guy (which is your right I guess) or more likely, you are frustrated by those who give some credit to RW's success at the feet of Lynch. How dare they.

 

[DavidSeven]

If this deal doesn't get done because we thought it was prudent to pay KJ $7M/yr and lowball our QB as a consequence, then I'm really going to start having some questions about what we're doing in the front office.

Obviously, they've had a lot of success. But in my opinion, that has largely been built on player development and less so on pure transactions. Their ability/inability to manage this transition from rag-tag group to a team of superstars will be the true defining point of this F.O.

 

[theincrediblesok]

I'm in agreement with Anthony! about the FO giving in to Lynch. What the problem is that this team is becoming so good, everyone is close to being a superstar, and with that in mind everyone wants top money.

Everyone here is blaming Wilson for not taking a lower offer to stay with the team, but then you have the FO giving one of the biggest contracts to Sherm and ET, signing Kam before was the best deal we did. Yes I understand that those guys are the best at their position, but if they wanted to keep the team together how come they didn't take a lower amount knowing that the rest of the other players will eventually get their big pay day. Money = respect and it's right there in everyone's face. The FO paid top dollars to keep them happy and made sure they showed the respect as they have performed more than their rookie contracts.

Then we signed Avril and Bennett to pretty good contracts and also extended KJ Wright, and a pedestrian contract for Doug. Offered Tate less than he was worth, you can see that the FO is trying to keep the offense on the cheap until Lynch holdout to get more. You can't blame Wilson for seeing that all those guys have gotten a contract and now wants to renegotiate to get a higher amount. So Bennett could ask for a raise after getting a contract but Wilson can't because he's never had a big salary?

Wilson is like the hard working minimum wage guy and working overtime to eventually move up in the company and make that top dollar salary. The problem is the FO wants to get him on the cheap, and undervaluing his potential, so they stay pat at an amount that Wilson, if he leaves the company, could get more somewhere else.

Bennet is the guy that got a huge bonus and raise and decides that after a year that he deserves more after he agreed to take a bit of a cut, but then he hears by the watercooler that Lynch had asked and gotten a raised after two years. So he figures hey if he can get a raise so can I.

Bruce Irvin is the guy that think he's done more than enough to earn almost 8 million just for his 5th year, he's produced and gotten better each year but don't deserve that huge of a deal. He's the type of player that could be replaceable. This is the FO that took a chance on him, but seems loyalty wise he won't be here just for the team but to get that huge contract somewhere else unless the FO can reach a deal.

If those guys are about the team they all should take a discount, but the matter of the fact is our team has way too many superstars and everyone wants to be paid like one. The one constant you should always keep is the QB position, he can play for over 10+ years and is the difference maker even if you have a less talented defense he should be the guy that will get you to the playoffs yearly. Could Wilson be that guy? I believe so. Does the FO believes he can be that guy? It depends on if they can reach an agreement.

 

[scutterhawk]

Violà?

Viola ?, Violin, or Fiddle, Cello? Or is it Chello :lol:
Anyways, back to RW.