RANKING ALL 32 NFL OFFENSIVE LINES ENTERING THE 2016 SEASON

[ivotuk]

1 Day ago from PFF:

"32. Seattle Seahawks
Projected starters: LT Garry Gilliam, LG Mark Glowinski, C Justin Britt, RG Germain Ifedi, RT J’Marcus Webb

Roster depth: Patrick Lewis, Bradley Sowell, Terry Poole

Key stat: All five Seattle offensive linemen are projected to start at a different position than they played last season.

The Seahawks are taking a lot of risks with their offensive line heading into the 2016 season. Their highest-graded lineman last year, Russell Okung (Broncos), left via free agency. Everyone is changing positions, and none of the veteran linemen graded well in 2015. Among those expected to make the roster, the Seahawks have the second-tallest offensive line, on average. Russell Wilson has played behind questionable offensive lines in the past, and the Seahawks have found a way to win anyway, so even if the O-line plays as poorly as it has in previous seasons, it might not hurt Seattle as much as it could other teams."

https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro-ra ... 16-season/

 

[ivotuk]

6 Months ago from PFF:

"30. Seattle Seahawks (19th)
Pass-blocking rank: 27th

Run-blocking rank: 29th

Penalties rank: 27th

Stud: It wasn’t the year he was hoping for, but Russell Okung continues to prove himself as starting-caliber left tackle in a league short of them.

Dud: The hope was that moving Justin Britt to guard might hide some of his weaknesses. The hope was wrong, with Britt having more issues at guard than he did at tackle.

Summary: It’s amazing that the Seahawks got as far as they did with a line that struggled to open many holes, and a pass protection unit that was sieve-like. It got better when Patrick Lewis came in, but their poor play serves to only highlight how good the backs were, and how talented Russell Wilson is at extending plays."

https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro-ra ... is-season/

 

[ivotuk]

8 months ago from PFF:

"32. Seattle Seahawks (30th)
Pass blocking rank: 32nd

Run blocking rank: 29th

Penalties rank: 17th

Stud: Using the term “stud” loosely, it’s Russell Okung (60.9) for the Seahawks, the 35th-ranked NFL tackle this season. That still puts his Seahawks peers to shame.

Dud: There’s some strong competition here, but the play of Garry Gilliam (32.3) in his 515 snaps takes the win. Only five tackles have a lower grade this season.

Summary: Much has been made of the Seahawks’ struggles across the line, and you can’t say it’s unjustified. No line has a worse pass blocking efficiency score (they’ve combined to surrender 108 quarterback disruptions on 298 passing plays), and they’re not an awful much better in the run game. In Russell and Marshawn, they must trust."

https://www.profootballfocus.com/rankin ... ng-week-9/

 

[chris98251]

"32. Seattle Seahawks
Projected starters: LT Garry Gilliam, LG Mark Glowinski, C Justin Britt, RG Germain Ifedi, RT J’Marcus Webb

Roster depth: Patrick Lewis, Bradley Sowell, Terry Poole

Key stat: All five Seattle offensive linemen are projected to start at a different position than they played last season.

The Seahawks are taking a lot of risks with their offensive line heading into the 2016 season. Their highest-graded lineman last year, Russell Okung (Broncos), left via free agency. Everyone is changing positions, and none of the veteran linemen graded well in 2015. Among those expected to make the roster, the Seahawks have the second-tallest offensive line, on average. Russell Wilson has played behind questionable offensive lines in the past, and the Seahawks have found a way to win anyway, so even if the O-line plays as poorly as it has in previous seasons, it might not hurt Seattle as much as it could other teams."

https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro-ra ... 16-season/

Way to early for this stuff, the ranking may be close but he is spit balling, no way you can project the starters yet.

 

[ivotuk]

For those with Insider:

http://espn.go.com/nfl/insider/story/_/ ... hi-osemele


The Raiders ranked #1


1. Oakland Raiders

Average starter rating: 82.7

The Raiders were already in good shape last season, but the addition of Kelechi Osemele moves them to the top spot in the league. Retaining left tackle Donald Penn means Osemele can stay inside at guard, his best position. Oakland is now the only unit in the league to have every starter rate above a PFF rating of 79.0. Osemele has been in the top five of PFF's run-blocking grades in each of the past two seasons.


Despite Penn's age (32), he still holds up well in the most important position on the line. Last season, he allowed just 32 total pressures -- eight more than Joe Thomas, the league's best pass-protecting tackle.

Add in center Rodney Hudson, guard Gabe Jackson and right tackle Austin Howard, the Raiders now have a line capable of being stellar at run-blocking and holding up in pass protection. Expect quarterback Derek Carr and Oakland's offense to keep developing.

 

[AgentDib]

Makes sense coming from PFF given that they rely on grading film and most of our O-Line has little to no NFL film at their current positions. Not particularly newsworthy to Hawks fans.

 

[UK_Seahawk]

The day I give a monkeys what PFF think is the day I give up on football.

 

[KiwiHawk]

Thank the heavens - another OL thread. Almost went a week without a new one.

 

[ludakrishna]

Hey Billy! Look, a dead horse...let's go beat on it.

 

[Blitzhawk]

I think that is absolutely where you have to rank them until they prove differently.

:sarcasm_on: I might even say they are 34 or 35 at this point. :sarcasm_off:

Seriously though, I think the rankings are much different if you included potential. I like the new additions. I am still worried about Britt at center but you never know until you see and suspect he has a short leash with a quick release (at least I hope).

Go Hawks!!!

 

[RiverDog]

It's hard to argue with those rankings. Our OL does suck, big time, and it could get a lot worse. We haven't had a great OL since 2005 and in spite of that, we've played the best football in franchise history. But we've never been this bad, either.

But as the article states, our team is better equipped to compensate for that weakness than other teams. So we'll see.

 

[Hawkstorian]

An article about how PFF thinks our O-line sucks.

Shouldn't this be in the .NET archives?

 

[Seahawkfan80]

An article about how PFF thinks our O-line sucks.

Shouldn't this be in the .NET archives?

That is where it came from...they just changed the year. LOL :twisted:

 

[kearly]

I think it's kind of silly for PFF to blame our OL for Wilson and Rawls making it look better than it really is and then not apply this same rigor to other teams. For example, Brady and Manning have made their lines look better than they really are for years and years.

The 2016 OL for Seattle is the least "talented" one I can remember in a very long time. However, there is a difference between talent and results, and Tom Cable actually seems to do better with less talented players oddly enough. And like the Patriots, the Seahawks are going to hide a lot of OL issues via scheme and QB play this season, so the actual quality of the OL is nearly a moot point.

And I know this might sound bizarre, but I find there to be a strange comfort in knowing that Seattle went out of signed some of PFF's worst graded free agents to fill roster spots. Of course I'd rather see Seattle sign better players for more money if necessary, however there is a comfort in seeing moves for raw players like Sowell, Webb, and Ifedi (not to mention their attempt to keep Britt) because I see them as an admission by Pete that he's not even going to try to win with talent on OL anymore, that he's going to scheme for those guys like he did in the 2nd half of last year.

 

[scutterhawk]

It's hard to argue with those rankings. Our OL does suck, big time, and it could get a lot worse. We haven't had a great OL since 2005 and in spite of that, we've played the best football in franchise history. But we've never been this bad, either.

But as the article states, our team is better equipped to compensate for that weakness than other teams. So we'll see.

Per several so called experts, Russell Wilson isn't considered to be a "Top Tier" Quarterback.
Wilson IS the reason that "Our Team Is Better Equipped To Compensate For That Weakness"
Last season, Wilson proved that it wasn't because of the O-Line or Run Game, that the Seahawks was having success moving the ball.

 

[kearly]

It's hard to argue with those rankings. Our OL does suck, big time, and it could get a lot worse. We haven't had a great OL since 2005 and in spite of that, we've played the best football in franchise history. But we've never been this bad, either.

But as the article states, our team is better equipped to compensate for that weakness than other teams. So we'll see.

IMO the OL was pretty solid in 2011 and 2012. No tricks or gimmicks, Seattle lined up and ran the ball down opponents throats and the sack rate they gave up was no worse than several other acclaimed OL of that time.

But yeah, the OL collapsed in 2013 due to injuries and never really recovered until Pete started scheming things to help the offense late last year.

 

[Largent80]

Look at Dallas' o-line, all those 1st rounders and they can't even play Pokemon right.

 

[RiverDog]

It's hard to argue with those rankings. Our OL does suck, big time, and it could get a lot worse. We haven't had a great OL since 2005 and in spite of that, we've played the best football in franchise history. But we've never been this bad, either.

But as the article states, our team is better equipped to compensate for that weakness than other teams. So we'll see.

Per several so called experts, Russell Wilson isn't considered to be a "Top Tier" Quarterback.
Wilson IS the reason that "Our Team Is Better Equipped To Compensate For That Weakness"
Last season, Wilson proved that it wasn't because of the O-Line or Run Game, that the Seahawks was having success moving the ball.

Russell's the main reason that we are better equipped to mitigate the effects of a poor offensive line, but he's not the only reason. Our defense is undeniably one of the top 2-3 defenses in the league, and that takes a lot of pressure off our offense, including the OL.

 

[ivotuk]

I actually prefer Pete's approach, it makes complete sense that he invests in the defense, since that's his specialty.

When you have as many talented players as the Seahawks do, you have to save $$$ somewhere, and Pete has chosen to do that on the offensive line. And, by paying Tom Cable, getting rid of the ball quicker, and by investing in running backs.

I'll be interested in how the rankings change as the season goes on, and whether or not PFF, or any other outfit takes the above variables in to account. ie: "Their ranking has increased recently, but their success can be attributed to Russell Wilson's quick release and the power of backs like Thomas Rawls, Christine Michael, and Alex Collins."

Because in reality, when discussing offfensive line, it is such a complicated grouping, and unless you know the play call and the player responsibilities, it's impossible to evaluate how well or how badly the offensive line is doing.

One of my favorite writers is Muth, with his "Word of Muth" articles. He's a former OLineman, and in my humble estimation, really knows his stuff, and explains it really well.

How well this line does this year will come down to how well Russell and the Running Backs play. If there is success, then they can build off of that, and maybe improve in the rankings


EDIT: The link to Word of Muth http://www.footballoutsiders.com/word-muth

 

[scutterhawk]

It's hard to argue with those rankings. Our OL does suck, big time, and it could get a lot worse. We haven't had a great OL since 2005 and in spite of that, we've played the best football in franchise history. But we've never been this bad, either.

But as the article states, our team is better equipped to compensate for that weakness than other teams. So we'll see.

Per several so called experts, Russell Wilson isn't considered to be a "Top Tier" Quarterback.
Wilson IS the reason that "Our Team Is Better Equipped To Compensate For That Weakness"
Last season, Wilson proved that it wasn't because of the O-Line or Run Game, that the Seahawks was having success moving the ball.

Russell's the main reason that we are better equipped to mitigate the effects of a poor offensive line, but he's not the only reason. Our defense is undeniably one of the top 2-3 defenses in the league, and that takes a lot of pressure off our offense, including the OL.

And vice-versa, Too many 3 & outs, and your Defense wears down a lot quicker....One hand washes the other.
The Point is; the Seahawks Offensive line ranking in at #32, Wilsons leadership, athleticism, elusiveness and savvy allows for the Seahawks to maintain more TOP.
Also, the OP posted about the Seahawks Offense.
There was a stark difference in the way that the Offense performed from the first half to the second half of last season, it was obvious that RW and his Receivers took control of their own destiny....That wasn't all due to the Defense either.