Poll: Extend Walker or Lucas?

[toffee]

Extend both

 

[SoulfishHawk]

that's what she said

 

[nwHawk]

Big Abe makes the Pro Bowl this year - yeah, I said that out loud.

 

[Smellyman]

Big Abe makes the Pro Bowl this year - yeah, I said that out loud.

you wrote it anyway.

Lucas has All Pro potential. OLine immediately got better when he returned last year.

 

[Atradees]

If........we keep all the injured guys, we are that much closer to a MASH unit. Cause there will be other guys injured.

We paid a first and a third for Cross and Lucas respectively...in one draft. So the investment there is large. Both guys can actually play good football. Keep Lucas. We are too close to building something.

K9 oh K9! Woe is the way of the Seahawks running back. Pennies on the dollar. K9 spends all his time at the vet. He is a talented player. I would keep k9 and let the competition play out. We have alot cap space coming up next year anyway. Sooner or later I want to see a durable star at running back. We have had them over the years.

Lucas over K9

 

[jman316]

Lucas, if that knee is okay, is a no-brainer to re-sign.

Walker is a home run threat. That is certainly NOT a dime-a-dozen attribute. Re-sign him too if he’s not holding out for insane money.

 

[RehireMora]

You have to look at it from the other 31 GM's position. Between the 2 players they have zero Pro Bowls, 1 of them missed 6 games last year and the other missed 10.

We might be thinking these guys are potential HOF candidates but those GM's have to explain to their boss why they just spent a truck load of cash on a huge risk.

Let them hit the market, they will come back cheap!!

 

[BigMeach]

You definitely don't give up on Lucas. Hoping for a healthy season and extension as he is valuable. K9 is great but if it were between the two and both are healthy I think I take Lucas.

 

[Appyhawk]

I'm with those who love K9. But in comparison Lucas has a bigger team effect when he is injured and can't play. Our O Line is immediately seriously compromised. Unless we hit paydirt at RT this year if Lucas goes down we have nothing on the right side of center. So Lucas is a must have if we have a hope. But when K9 goes down we just plug Charb and/or MacIntosh in and don't miss a beat. That is my only non-positive with regard to Walker. I do believe he is a special talent.

 

[CouchLogic]

I wouldn't pay K9 starter money, he just seems like an exceptional change of pace back. I don't view him as an every down HB, last season he wasn't in the top 25 in rush yards, barely top 25 in TDs, and not top 25 in 20+ yard rushes. For a home run hitter, he's hitting doubles. Compared to Bo Nix who had more 20+ yard runs...

Sure the line/scheme sucked ass, but ballers ball out no matter the circumstance, and K9 has been coming up short.

Personally, I'm just not impressed at this point. Seems like a dime a dozen back, not a feature back. Totally willing to see what he can do with a proper line/scheme. Actually, I'm really excited at the prospect of him busting out this year.

Lucas is the actual injury question mark (I'm not buying the K9 injury prone thing, NFL backs get banged up), but that knee is fine. OL takes a bit longer to adjust on the NFL level, so between the two I'm paying that dude.

 

[King Dog]

No way on Lucas imo unless it's like league minimum.

 

[MORGULON]

RBs are a dime a dozen. Tackles not so much.

Yes.

If we could assume both are healthy and playing at a high level , I'd take the tackle . Lots of RB can flourish behind a dominant line .

My question is about Woolen. My guess is he's going to have a solid year and leave to Some silly bottom dweller that throws a bunch of money at him . I'm fine with that

 

[Hotchy]

The smart move is neither. There's a Lucas/Walker talent coming out of college every year. Especially when we're drafting Jeremiyah Love

 

[Sperrydogg]

I say resign both cause they will be cheaper now

 

[chrispy]

JS knows a lot more about Lucas' knee and K9s ankles/abs/groin than any of us. I feel like both are completely dependant on whether they play this season ;showing those recurring injuries are completely healed or they'll continue to be recurring. They're both valuable under a particular price and they're both replaceable over a certain price. That price will be set by production and availability this season.

If we're just predicting with the small amount of information we have right now: Lucas has been shown lifting on his bad knee and in great shape. K9 has had multiple different injuries and plays such that injuries are inevitable. Odds are that Lucas is a higher percentage bet to add value longterm, still dependent on price.

 

[CPHawk]

I will extend my middle finger for OL’ reek if he tries taking any more plays off. Hopefully he will be a full buy-in guy for McDonald.

It cracks me up how many YouTube Seahawks people
Think reek is really good. And that we don’t even need to try and replace him. The guy plays lazy so much, and isn’t a willing tackler.

 

[Aircrew]

Neither. I'd extend Woolen first.

 

[NoGain]

JS knows a lot more about Lucas' knee and K9s ankles/abs/groin than any of us. I feel like both are completely dependent on whether they play this season; showing those recurring injuries are completely healed or they'll continue to be recurring. They're both valuable under a particular price and they're both replaceable over a certain price. That price will be set by production and availability this season.

If we're just predicting with the small amount of information we have right now: Lucas has been shown lifting on his bad knee and in great shape. K9 has had multiple different injuries and plays such that injuries are inevitable. Odds are that Lucas is a higher percentage bet to add value long term, still dependent on price.

Yeah, that's kind of how I feel about it. And you're right that JS knows a lot more about their injuries than any of us. I keep coming back to what seems to me a lack of transparency about Lucas's injury. With our advancements in medical care for athletes, we have a reasonably good sense now of the timeline for rehab and recovery from an assortment of injuries, ACL, MCL, patellar, achilles, etc.., of course depending upon the severity of them. There were rumblings that Lucas's injury exposed a degenerative condition in his knees. I never was allayed that this was not the case, and that Lucas was primed for a full recovery from his injury.

If the latter is the case, then I'm a big fan of Lucas. I loved the pick when we nabbed him, knew of him from Washington State as being a real mauler, an old-school, football player's football player, a guy who seemingly loved the physical battle of it. I had hopes that this guy was going to be an anchor for us at RT for years to come. This year is going to be telling for us in that way, and also going to be telling for us, if he does have a good year, how much JS is willing to invest in his future knowing what he knows of his injuries.

God, would that be great if we started looking set at LT (Cross), LG (Zabel), and RT (Lucas) at some point during the season, and if someone (Bradford, Haynes) started looking like the answer for us at RT. I'm still very iffy about Center, but at least then we'd know where to direct our resources towards in the near future.

I want a real offensive line, goddammit! Our RB situation will work itself out.

 

[CouchLogic]

Yeah, that's kind of how I feel about it. And you're right that JS knows a lot more about their injuries than any of us. I keep coming back to what seems to me a lack of transparency about Lucas's injury. With our advancements in medical care for athletes, we have a reasonably good sense now of the timeline for rehab and recovery from an assortment of injuries, ACL, MCL, patellar, achilles, etc.., of course depending upon the severity of them. There were rumblings that Lucas's injury exposed a degenerative condition in his knees. I never was allayed that this was not the case, and that Lucas was primed for a full recovery from his injury.

If the latter is the case, then I'm a big fan of Lucas. I loved the pick when we nabbed him, knew of him from Washington State as being a real mauler, an old-school, football player's football player, a guy who seemingly loved the physical battle of it. I had hopes that this guy was going to be an anchor for us at RT for years to come...

His knee is fine.

Lucas himself stated he has no idea why Pete said it was degenerative, when all he did was mangle it REALLY bad. He also stated himself when he came back that it's fixed and just needs some time to get into playing shape. He was basically laughing at the fact that Pete/Fans thought he was "finished" when all he needed was a little bit of time.

Old man Pete had no idea what he was talking about when it came to that knee, and basically started a rumor for no reason about the severity of the injury.

Rest assured, that knee is not a long term concern.

 

[CouchLogic]

It cracks me up how many YouTube Seahawks people
Think reek is really good. And that we don’t even need to try and replace him. The guy plays lazy so much, and isn’t a willing tackler.