Is it Just me? or this Harvin talk really annoying

[Sgt. Largent]

So you're main problem is grammar or context?

It's not a false premise to think that when Harvin is healthy, he will help this team. If not, why did we give him all that money?

 

[seahawksny]

Is anyone fed up with this "once they get Percy Harvin back"

Coming "back" to what? The only Harvin we know is the one that played for the Vikings. he hasn't played for Seattle yet, and we don't know what he is going to bring, or how he will fit into the system. Okung and Breno, we know what they bring. We don't know anything about this guy other than

1) what he did in Minnesota
2) He is hurt, and probably more than we think.
3) We don't have a clue how he will fit with this offense or if he will be a cancer like he was in Minny
4) THE MEDIA IS MAKING HIM OUT TO BE THE SAVIOR AND ANSWER AND FINAL PIECE OF THE PUZZLE and this is while taking points 1,2, and 3 into consideration



I work for a lawyer, so Im used to being meticulous with words, and bringing him "back" to me seems like an oxymoron.


HE HASNT PLAYED HERE YET!!!!!!


I don't know, maybe its just me, but its very irritating.

1. Harvin made the Pro Bowl in 2009 with Minnesota in a system run by... you guessed it... Darrell Bevell.

2. How is he "probably hurt more than we think"? Explain. If you work for a lawyer, shouldn't you avoid things like conjecture?

3. We should have a clue how he'll fit in this offense by looking at how Bevell has used him before and determining whether that approach seems like on this team. As for his carcinogenic qualities in Minnesota, have we heard anything about him having any issues with Seattle's FO or coaching staff? We know that the Vikings players had zero problems with Harvin, and that the speculation was that Harvin's issues were either contract-related or connected to Leslie Frazier and Brad Childress.

4. The media I have seen indicates that a guy who was performing very well last season before his injury is about to become available to a team with a glaring need at the position he plays. Why on earth wouldn't that be viewed as a potential positive?

Maybe it's just me, but I think you probably found the Harvin trade itself very irritating. It sounds like you've already got some built-in bias against him.

on your points
1) Different team, different system, not the same. Yes its Bevell, but if everything was the same as it was then, then he would become very predictable. Seattle didn't get to playoffs last year because offense was predictable.
Pro bowl in 2009? Shaun Alexander was MVP of the league in 05' and was out of league two years later. Injuries change everything. Nothing is guaranteed.

2) Its not conjecture. Adam Schefter said he knows for a fact that he further away than everyone makes it out to be.

4) I never said it wasn't a positive, im saying that when morons like Pete Prisco on cbs say they need him badly seems to forget that this team went 11-5 last year without him. That's what I mean

Didn't find trade irritating. I liked it then and liked it now, Im just not sold that everything will come up roses just because he is on the field. Return of M-Rob may turn out to be even more important because it assists in something that is KNOWN , IE the running game, vs something unknown, IE how well he can come back from injury.

 

[seahawksny]

Is anyone fed up with this "once they get Percy Harvin back"

Coming "back" to what? The only Harvin we know is the one that played for the Vikings. he hasn't played for Seattle yet, and we don't know what he is going to bring, or how he will fit into the system. Okung and Breno, we know what they bring. We don't know anything about this guy other than

1) what he did in Minnesota
2) He is hurt, and probably more than we think.
3) We don't have a clue how he will fit with this offense or if he will be a cancer like he was in Minny
4) THE MEDIA IS MAKING HIM OUT TO BE THE SAVIOR AND ANSWER AND FINAL PIECE OF THE PUZZLE and this is while taking points 1,2, and 3 into consideration



I work for a lawyer, so Im used to being meticulous with words, and bringing him "back" to me seems like an oxymoron.


HE HASNT PLAYED HERE YET!!!!!!


I don't know, maybe its just me, but its very irritating.

1. Harvin made the Pro Bowl in 2009 with Minnesota in a system run by... you guessed it... Darrell Bevell.

2. How is he "probably hurt more than we think"? Explain. If you work for a lawyer, shouldn't you avoid things like conjecture?

3. We should have a clue how he'll fit in this offense by looking at how Bevell has used him before and determining whether that approach seems like on this team. As for his carcinogenic qualities in Minnesota, have we heard anything about him having any issues with Seattle's FO or coaching staff? We know that the Vikings players had zero problems with Harvin, and that the speculation was that Harvin's issues were either contract-related or connected to Leslie Frazier and Brad Childress.

4. The media I have seen indicates that a guy who was performing very well last season before his injury is about to become available to a team with a glaring need at the position he plays. Why on earth wouldn't that be viewed as a potential positive?

Maybe it's just me, but I think you probably found the Harvin trade itself very irritating. It sounds like you've already got some built-in bias against him.

on your points
1) Different team, different system, not the same. Yes its Bevell, but if everything was the same as it was then, then he would become very predictable. Seattle didn't get to playoffs last year because offense was predictable.
Pro bowl in 2009? Shaun Alexander was MVP of the league in 05' and was out of league two years later. Injuries change everything. Nothing is guaranteed.

2) Its not conjecture. Adam Schefter said he knows for a fact that he further away than everyone makes it out to be.

4) I never said it wasn't a positive, im saying that when morons like Pete Prisco on cbs say they need him badly seems to forget that this team went 11-5 last year without him. That's what I mean

Didn't find trade irritating. I liked it then and liked it now, Im just not sold that everything will come up roses just because he is on the field. Return of M-Rob may turn out to be even more important because it assists in something that is KNOWN , IE the running game, vs something unknown, IE how well he can come back from injury.

 

[seahawksny]

The only way to avoid it is to avoid logging on. :229031_shrug:

The part I don't like, I guess, is all the doom and gloomers saying "we need this" or "we need him to do this" all the time. Whatever. I'll be glad to see what he can bring to our offense, but at 8-1, I don't think we need a savior.

you summed it up perfectly

 

[Basis4day]

Is anyone fed up with this "once they get Percy Harvin back"

Coming "back" to what? The only Harvin we know is the one that played for the Vikings. he hasn't played for Seattle yet, and we don't know what he is going to bring, or how he will fit into the system. Okung and Breno, we know what they bring. We don't know anything about this guy other than

1) what he did in Minnesota
2) He is hurt, and probably more than we think.
3) We don't have a clue how he will fit with this offense or if he will be a cancer like he was in Minny
4) THE MEDIA IS MAKING HIM OUT TO BE THE SAVIOR AND ANSWER AND FINAL PIECE OF THE PUZZLE and this is while taking points 1,2, and 3 into consideration



I work for a lawyer, so Im used to being meticulous with words, and bringing him "back" to me seems like an oxymoron.


HE HASNT PLAYED HERE YET!!!!!!


I don't know, maybe its just me, but its very irritating.

1. Harvin made the Pro Bowl in 2009 with Minnesota in a system run by... you guessed it... Darrell Bevell.

2. How is he "probably hurt more than we think"? Explain. If you work for a lawyer, shouldn't you avoid things like conjecture?

3. We should have a clue how he'll fit in this offense by looking at how Bevell has used him before and determining whether that approach seems like on this team. As for his carcinogenic qualities in Minnesota, have we heard anything about him having any issues with Seattle's FO or coaching staff? We know that the Vikings players had zero problems with Harvin, and that the speculation was that Harvin's issues were either contract-related or connected to Leslie Frazier and Brad Childress.

4. The media I have seen indicates that a guy who was performing very well last season before his injury is about to become available to a team with a glaring need at the position he plays. Why on earth wouldn't that be viewed as a potential positive?

Maybe it's just me, but I think you probably found the Harvin trade itself very irritating. It sounds like you've already got some built-in bias against him.

on your points
1) Different team, different system, not the same. Yes its Bevell, but if everything was the same as it was then, then he would become very predictable. Seattle didn't get to playoffs last year because offense was predictable.
Pro bowl in 2009? Shaun Alexander was MVP of the league in 05' and was out of league two years later. Injuries change everything. Nothing is guaranteed.

2) Its not conjecture. Adam Schefter said he knows for a fact that he further away than everyone makes it out to be.

4) I never said it wasn't a positive, im saying that when morons like Pete Prisco on cbs say they need him badly seems to forget that this team went 11-5 last year without him. That's what I mean

Didn't find trade irritating. I liked it then and liked it now, Im just not sold that everything will come up roses just because he is on the field. Return of M-Rob may turn out to be even more important because it assists in something that is KNOWN , IE the running game, vs something unknown, IE how well he can come back from injury.

The same Adam Shefter who reported we were going to trade for Jared Allen?

 

[seahawksny]

"The same Adam Shefter who reported we were going to trade for Jared Allen?"

He didn't say this for three weeks in a row.
We have been saying "maybe this week" for the last three weeks now
Totally different

 

[volsunghawk]

Is anyone fed up with this "once they get Percy Harvin back"

Coming "back" to what? The only Harvin we know is the one that played for the Vikings. he hasn't played for Seattle yet, and we don't know what he is going to bring, or how he will fit into the system. Okung and Breno, we know what they bring. We don't know anything about this guy other than

1) what he did in Minnesota
2) He is hurt, and probably more than we think.
3) We don't have a clue how he will fit with this offense or if he will be a cancer like he was in Minny
4) THE MEDIA IS MAKING HIM OUT TO BE THE SAVIOR AND ANSWER AND FINAL PIECE OF THE PUZZLE and this is while taking points 1,2, and 3 into consideration



I work for a lawyer, so Im used to being meticulous with words, and bringing him "back" to me seems like an oxymoron.


HE HASNT PLAYED HERE YET!!!!!!


I don't know, maybe its just me, but its very irritating.

1. Harvin made the Pro Bowl in 2009 with Minnesota in a system run by... you guessed it... Darrell Bevell.

2. How is he "probably hurt more than we think"? Explain. If you work for a lawyer, shouldn't you avoid things like conjecture?

3. We should have a clue how he'll fit in this offense by looking at how Bevell has used him before and determining whether that approach seems like on this team. As for his carcinogenic qualities in Minnesota, have we heard anything about him having any issues with Seattle's FO or coaching staff? We know that the Vikings players had zero problems with Harvin, and that the speculation was that Harvin's issues were either contract-related or connected to Leslie Frazier and Brad Childress.

4. The media I have seen indicates that a guy who was performing very well last season before his injury is about to become available to a team with a glaring need at the position he plays. Why on earth wouldn't that be viewed as a potential positive?

Maybe it's just me, but I think you probably found the Harvin trade itself very irritating. It sounds like you've already got some built-in bias against him.

on your points
1) Different team, different system, not the same. Yes its Bevell, but if everything was the same as it was then, then he would become very predictable. Seattle didn't get to playoffs last year because offense was predictable.
Pro bowl in 2009? Shaun Alexander was MVP of the league in 05' and was out of league two years later. Injuries change everything. Nothing is guaranteed.

2) Its not conjecture. Adam Schefter said he knows for a fact that he further away than everyone makes it out to be.

4) I never said it wasn't a positive, im saying that when morons like Pete Prisco on cbs say they need him badly seems to forget that this team went 11-5 last year without him. That's what I mean

Didn't find trade irritating. I liked it then and liked it now, Im just not sold that everything will come up roses just because he is on the field. Return of M-Rob may turn out to be even more important because it assists in something that is KNOWN , IE the running game, vs something unknown, IE how well he can come back from injury.

On YOUR points...

1. Don't act like this is some drastically different system Bevell is running now. It's more run-heavy than what he ran in Minnesota, but I guarantee you that there is familiarity for Harvin. Bevell was his OC for 2 years. As for your argument about injuries, yeah, we don't know if this injury will affect Harvin's game. But he was looking very good last season (not just in 2009), and...

2. It's ABSOLUTELY conjecture to suggest that Harvin is "hurt more than we think". Look at the timelines. Back when Harvin first had the surgery, the Saints game was pegged as the best-case scenario for an early return. There were people arguing that he was likely done for the season. Now, we've had people SPECULATING that he could return for St. Louis or Tampa just because he was cleared to begin practicing. The issue here isn't how severely "hurt" Harvin is... it's how speculative the pundit class and fanbase has been regarding his return. And it also illustrates a fundamental misunderstanding of the difference between a player being cleared to practice after an injury/surgery/rehab and a player being ready to step foot on the field. Direct your irritation at the right target... the people who were stupid enough to think Harvin was ready to go two weeks ago.

4. Prisco is RIGHT that the team needs Harvin because when they went 11-5 last season, they still had Sidney Rice catching game-winning passes. They had a healthy O-line down the stretch, which is something they DON'T have right now. Wilson needs a receiver that can get open quickly and make things happen in space. Tate can do that, but with Rice out, he'll be getting the attention from the opponent's top CB each game. With Harvin on the field, that opens up everyone else a bit more, which helps our offense. And for the record, 11-5 got us a 5th seed last year. If the Seahawks want more than that, they need a better record.

Now please don't make me say "Prisco is RIGHT" ever again.

 

[Kamcussion]

We are 8-1 without him.. Who is saying he is our savior, savior from what exactly?

 

[dontbelikethat]

"The same Adam Shefter who reported we were going to trade for Jared Allen?"

He didn't say this for three weeks in a row.
We have been saying "maybe this week" for the last three weeks now
Totally different

I would like to see where he said this. Any tweet or anything?

 

[Smelly McUgly]

2. Direct your irritation at the right target... the people who were stupid enough to think Harvin was ready to go two weeks ago.

HEY!

 

[Basis4day]

"The same Adam Shefter who reported we were going to trade for Jared Allen?"

He didn't say this for three weeks in a row.
We have been saying "maybe this week" for the last three weeks now
Totally different

Not different at all. At no time has Pete been inconsistent with the prognosis of Harvin's return. At no time did he tell fans or media to expect him to play this week. Fans and media made the choice to believe he would play and have only themselves to blame if they feel disappointed.

You're choosing to believe Schefter in this single scenario that helps your argument while choosing to ignore the factually inaccurate statement he gave regarding Jared Allen. Consider the source and consider a larger sampling of available information.

 

[seahawksny]

Direct your irritation at the right target... the people who were stupid enough to think Harvin was ready to go two weeks ago

4. Prisco is RIGHT that the team needs Harvin because when they went 11-5 last season, they still had Sidney Rice catching game-winning passes. They had a healthy O-line down the stretch, which is something they DON'T have right now. Wilson needs a receiver that can get open quickly and make things happen in space. Tate can do that, but with Rice out, he'll be getting the attention from the opponent's top CB each game. With Harvin on the field, that opens up everyone else a bit more, which helps our offense. And for the record, 11-5 got us a 5th seed last year. If the Seahawks want more than that, they need a better record.

Now please don't make me say "Prisco is RIGHT" ever again...........

GLAD WE AGREE...... HE IS NEVER RIGHT. NEVER!!!!!!!!! He has had it in for the Seahawks for years and is proven wrong time and time again. PLUS, he said this before Rice got hurt. We both agree Harvin can help this team, and like you said, opens up everyone else a bit more.
I will not make you say he is right ever again, but he said this when we were around 4 or 5-1.

 

[Axx]

If pete is high on this guy so will i

 

[seahawksny]

If pete is high on this guy so will i

He isn't high on him, he is high on looking for reasons to pick against the seahawks. always has been.

 

[ImTheScientist]

Is anyone fed up with this "once they get Percy Harvin back"

Coming "back" to what? The only Harvin we know is the one that played for the Vikings. he hasn't played for Seattle yet, and we don't know what he is going to bring, or how he will fit into the system. Okung and Breno, we know what they bring. We don't know anything about this guy other than

1) what he did in Minnesota
2) He is hurt, and probably more than we think.
3) We don't have a clue how he will fit with this offense or if he will be a cancer like he was in Minny
4) THE MEDIA IS MAKING HIM OUT TO BE THE SAVIOR AND ANSWER AND FINAL PIECE OF THE PUZZLE and this is while taking points 1,2, and 3 into consideration


I work for a lawyer, so Im used to being meticulous with words, and bringing him "back" to me seems like an oxymoron.


HE HASNT PLAYED HERE YET!!!!!!


I don't know, maybe its just me, but its very irritating.

I get annoyed with posts like this....guess we are even then. :thirishdrinkers:

 

[ImTheScientist]

We are 8-1 without him.. Who is saying he is our savior, savior from what exactly?

Ever losing again.

 

[Sgt. Largent]

We are 8-1 without him.. Who is saying he is our savior, savior from what exactly?

An offense that's prone to be frustratingly stagnant for long stretches of games?

 

[Kamcussion]

Would you rather be putting up 40 points a game and 5-4 or this offense and 8-1?

 

[volsunghawk]

Would you rather be putting up 40 points a game and 5-4 or this offense and 8-1?

Why would we be 5-4 if we're putting up 40 points a game? :|

 

[IcedHawk]

Harvin is a premier wide out in the league. What he brings is a more dynamic offense, so our other players get even more space. More offensive weapons is always good, regardless of whether we "need" him or not.